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03-09-2021, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
This is exactly like software that's been out there for decades. My job ain't affected by this for chit because I ain't no bookkeeper.@OP
isn't this basically the same as a lot of accounting software out there?
alot of bookkeeping functions can and are automated. Still need human eyes to detect any possible discrepancies, serve as additional control, reconcile the bank/books, cash flow in the order of millions, etc. A lot simpler for small businesses but for big corporations that require audits not so much. I think even that chit will take like two decades to fully realize because organizations can be very slow to adapt. Hell, my company still uses a chit ton of paper in 2021, when everybody like 2-3 decades ago were saying that chit would be dead by now.
as you move up in accounting, the less your work is capable of becoming automated, and many occupy diverse and multiple roles/functions plus. I suspect the role's may shift for accountants more towards value added services like financial planning, forecasting, budgeting, advisory, etc rather than mundane and repetitive work.
First it was typewriters, computers, spreadsheets, accounting software, ERP software, literally just starting to get into block chain. Humans still here lol ... even when the tech emerges not everybody has the money for it and adaptation can be slow.
isn't this basically the same as a lot of accounting software out there?
alot of bookkeeping functions can and are automated. Still need human eyes to detect any possible discrepancies, serve as additional control, reconcile the bank/books, cash flow in the order of millions, etc. A lot simpler for small businesses but for big corporations that require audits not so much. I think even that chit will take like two decades to fully realize because organizations can be very slow to adapt. Hell, my company still uses a chit ton of paper in 2021, when everybody like 2-3 decades ago were saying that chit would be dead by now.
as you move up in accounting, the less your work is capable of becoming automated, and many occupy diverse and multiple roles/functions plus. I suspect the role's may shift for accountants more towards value added services like financial planning, forecasting, budgeting, advisory, etc rather than mundane and repetitive work.
First it was typewriters, computers, spreadsheets, accounting software, ERP software, literally just starting to get into block chain. Humans still here lol ... even when the tech emerges not everybody has the money for it and adaptation can be slow.
But for real, "can't-Accountants" stay the hell out of our major. This type of AI is eliminating low level grunt work no accountants even do.
03-09-2021, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
If anything the role itself will adapt to the current and future climate. For example now you have IT accountants, I can imagine accounting bros either specializing more towards the computer/tech side of things or just more the strategic/financial analysis side. Obv as well you have very specialized fields such as forensic accounting. Basically it's an adapt or die type thing. People in these roles should always keep up to date on trends and changes in their industry anyways and seek additional courses that will help them perform their job.Accounting isn't a black and white profession, IMO. Lots of human interpretation that machines won't be able to do. I'm not an accountant either, just been exposed to the financial side of things and have a hard time imagining that profession can be completely automated.
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
Not really boyo, I work in Finance and I can tell you that the only reason why a Finance/Accounting staff is needed is due to human errors in the transactions, ex:LOL if anything an ERP will mean you'll need to pay your accountant twice as much.
1) Stock room personnel pull inventory from the wrong bin, Finance staff needs to manually correct
2) Accounts Payable clerk matches an Invoice to the wrong Receipt ID, finance staff needs to make the correction
3) Buyer codes the Purchase Order to the wrong GL account, finance staff needs to make the correction
4) Engineering dept incorrectly sets up the Bill of Materials, cost accountant has to manually correct
As you can see, most of Finance work is actually about correcting the human errors that occur during the course of business. As more jobs become replaced via automation, like say the stockroom clerk or the accounts payable clerk gets replaced with AI robots, there's less of a need to maintain a robust finance staff.
I can tell you with certainty that upper management in ANY company despises Overhead Expenses like the Finance dept. And the newer generations of ERP systems are becoming so advanced that they can reduce the number of human staff a company needs to maintain.
Everything I post is satire.
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03-09-2021, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
Are you telling me you guys weren't taught the bolded? We did ERP and all of this in my degree.@OP
isn't this basically the same as a lot of accounting software out there?
alot of bookkeeping functions can and are automated. Still need human eyes to detect any possible discrepancies, serve as additional control, reconcile the bank/books, cash flow in the order of millions, etc. A lot simpler for small businesses but for big corporations that require audits not so much. I think even that chit will take like two decades to fully realize because organizations can be very slow to adapt. Hell, my company still uses a chit ton of paper in 2021, when everybody like 2-3 decades ago were saying that chit would be dead by now.
as you move up in accounting, the less your work is capable of becoming automated, and many occupy diverse and multiple roles/functions plus. I suspect the role's may shift for accountants more towards value added services like financial planning, forecasting, budgeting, advisory,etc rather than mundane and repetitive work.
First it was typewriters, computers, spreadsheets, accounting software, ERP software, literally just starting to get into block chain. Humans still here lol ... even when the tech emerges not everybody has the money for it and adaptation can be slow.
isn't this basically the same as a lot of accounting software out there?
alot of bookkeeping functions can and are automated. Still need human eyes to detect any possible discrepancies, serve as additional control, reconcile the bank/books, cash flow in the order of millions, etc. A lot simpler for small businesses but for big corporations that require audits not so much. I think even that chit will take like two decades to fully realize because organizations can be very slow to adapt. Hell, my company still uses a chit ton of paper in 2021, when everybody like 2-3 decades ago were saying that chit would be dead by now.
as you move up in accounting, the less your work is capable of becoming automated, and many occupy diverse and multiple roles/functions plus. I suspect the role's may shift for accountants more towards value added services like financial planning, forecasting, budgeting, advisory,etc rather than mundane and repetitive work.
First it was typewriters, computers, spreadsheets, accounting software, ERP software, literally just starting to get into block chain. Humans still here lol ... even when the tech emerges not everybody has the money for it and adaptation can be slow.
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
Nothing is more amusing than watching a man own himself.... I saw your master race thread and knew it was only a matter of time before reality sets in....lol.... I had you at about 1 year but looks like you got that reality check at 5 months....Dammit man LMAO roll bread over
Accounting is still the Master Race® ������
Saw a youtube ad LOL *advertising that AI
Accountingmajors (refer to username) are always on top in case you forgot .
Couldn't let it go huh? hahahaa
Accounting is still the Master Race® ������
Saw a youtube ad LOL *advertising that AI
Accountingmajors (refer to username) are always on top in case you forgot .
Couldn't let it go huh? hahahaa
Everything I post is satire.
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03-09-2021, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
These 2 are the big ones.1) Stock room personnel pull inventory from the wrong bin, Finance staff needs to manually correct
4) Engineering dept incorrectly sets up the Bill of Materials, cost accountant has to manually correct.
4) Engineering dept incorrectly sets up the Bill of Materials, cost accountant has to manually correct.
Warehouse is too lazy to do paperwork and we end up losing lots of chit (here comes a firing)
and non accountants couldn't care less if codes match up or if they are even on time with their reports.
03-09-2021, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
K I won't stop you, you can believe whatchu want lolNothing is more amusing than watching a man own himself.... I saw your master race thread and knew it was only a matter of time before reality sets in....lol.... I had you at about 1 year but looks like you got that reality check at 5 months....
Brb will be homeless soon and collecting covid money
Gotta go sell my legs.
Edit: you'd be correct if I was actually out of a job
03-09-2021, 01:49 PM
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I can assure you boyos right now that it'll be even more over in the coming years as Work From Home culture is here to stay.
For example, take myself who's been working in Finance for dammmm near 13 years now in Los Angeles..... why should a company keep me and pay me a Los Angeles salary when they can hire some guy from Phoenix AZ and pay him a smaller Phoenix AZ salary...???.... the job doesn't require the employee to be physically on the premise...
It's just common sense, if I were an executive I'd make the same decision...
For example, take myself who's been working in Finance for dammmm near 13 years now in Los Angeles..... why should a company keep me and pay me a Los Angeles salary when they can hire some guy from Phoenix AZ and pay him a smaller Phoenix AZ salary...???.... the job doesn't require the employee to be physically on the premise...
It's just common sense, if I were an executive I'd make the same decision...
Everything I post is satire.
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03-09-2021, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Pumpinmirin⏩
no what I'm saying is accountants will be able to more so focus on those things rather than the mundane and routine chit that can and will be automatedAre you telling me you guys weren't taught the bolded? We did ERP and all of this in my degree.
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03-09-2021, 01:50 PM
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You know, Quasimodo predicted all this
03-09-2021, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Unless the AI can magically prevent people from just creating customers and submitting invoices, you'll need people.Not really boyo, I work in Finance and I can tell you that the only reason why a Finance/Accounting staff is needed is due to human errors in the transactions, ex:
1) Stock room personnel pull inventory from the wrong bin, Finance staff needs to manually correct
2) Accounts Payable clerk matches an Invoice to the wrong Receipt ID, finance staff needs to make the correction
3) Buyer codes the Purchase Order to the wrong GL account, finance staff needs to make the correction
4) Engineering dept incorrectly sets up the Bill of Materials, cost accountant has to manually correct
As you can see, most of Finance work is actually about correcting the human errors that occur during the course of business. As more jobs become replaced via automation, like say the stockroom clerk or the accounts payable clerk gets replaced with AI robots, there's less of a need to maintain a robust finance staff.
I can tell you with certainty that upper management in ANY company despises Overhead Expenses like the Finance dept. And the newer generations of ERP systems are becoming so advanced that they can reduce the number of human staff a company needs to maintain.
1) Stock room personnel pull inventory from the wrong bin, Finance staff needs to manually correct
2) Accounts Payable clerk matches an Invoice to the wrong Receipt ID, finance staff needs to make the correction
3) Buyer codes the Purchase Order to the wrong GL account, finance staff needs to make the correction
4) Engineering dept incorrectly sets up the Bill of Materials, cost accountant has to manually correct
As you can see, most of Finance work is actually about correcting the human errors that occur during the course of business. As more jobs become replaced via automation, like say the stockroom clerk or the accounts payable clerk gets replaced with AI robots, there's less of a need to maintain a robust finance staff.
I can tell you with certainty that upper management in ANY company despises Overhead Expenses like the Finance dept. And the newer generations of ERP systems are becoming so advanced that they can reduce the number of human staff a company needs to maintain.
AI is simply statistical analysis. It's actually not a fuking thinking machine.
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
Roger that. I'm a very recent graduate you see so thought those who had spent longer in the industry may not have.no what I'm saying is accountants will be able to more so focus on those things rather than the mundane and routine chit that can and will be automated
03-09-2021, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By Pumpinmirin⏩
You should read that accounting master race thread, rustled up some jimmies in there.Roger that. I'm a very recent graduate you see so thought those who had spent longer in the industry may not have.
It should pump you up if you are an accounting major too.
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Originally Posted By saltypits⏩
There will certainly still be a need for a finance staff, but it's going to be a very small need because most tasks will be eliminated through automation. The staff will most likely ONLY consist of a small number of highly educated individuals who are versed in Accounting and Audit and also have the technical knowledge of ERP systems....Unless the AI can magically prevent people from just creating customers and submitting invoices, you'll need people.
AI is simply statistical analysis. It's actually not a fuking thinking machine.
AI is simply statistical analysis. It's actually not a fuking thinking machine.
And with Work From Home culture, companies can now hire individuals outside their immediate region. So now employees have to compete with even more candidates and this will ultimately lead to them earning less....
Only a fool glorifies finance work....
Everything I post is satire.
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03-09-2021, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah⏩
accounting trolls trying to be sales people lolRobert Kiyosaki predicted this years ago. I would try to make a shift into sales srs.
probly should move into coding
03-09-2021, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By AccountingMajor⏩
My preferred pathway is auditing>forensic auditing. I'm not that concerned about A.I because that job is ultimately financial compliance officer/variance analysis. Also have half a law degree from my minor so can segway into other roles.You should read that accounting master race thread, rustled up some jimmies in there.
It should pump you up if you are an accounting major too.
It should pump you up if you are an accounting major too.
03-09-2021, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Pumpinmirin⏩
Yea you shouldn't be concerned at all about AI.My preferred pathway is auditing>forensic auditing. I'm not that concerned about A.I because that job is ultimately financial compliance officer/variance analysis. Also have half a law degree from my minor so can segway into other roles.
That thread goes into it as well.
If you ain't AP / AR, you're good.
If you ain't a boomer who struggles using a computer, you're good.
If you ain't doing repetitive work day in day out, you're good.
If anything AI should be able to automate the IRS tax code, but even then it can't lol
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cpa checking in
leveled up my skills with python to keep up
most of my job is non routine / judgement based anyway
leveled up my skills with python to keep up
most of my job is non routine / judgement based anyway
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03-09-2021, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted By N0stradamus⏩
Or Colombia.I can assure you boyos right now that it'll be even more over in the coming years as Work From Home culture is here to stay.
For example, take myself who's been working in Finance for dammmm near 13 years now in Los Angeles.....why should a company keep me and pay me a Los Angeles salary when they can hire some guy from Phoenix AZ and pay him a smaller Phoenix AZ salary...???.... the job doesn't require the employee to be physically on the premise...
It's just common sense, if I were an executive I'd make the same decision...
For example, take myself who's been working in Finance for dammmm near 13 years now in Los Angeles.....why should a company keep me and pay me a Los Angeles salary when they can hire some guy from Phoenix AZ and pay him a smaller Phoenix AZ salary...???.... the job doesn't require the employee to be physically on the premise...
It's just common sense, if I were an executive I'd make the same decision...
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03-09-2021, 05:46 PM
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First thing misc thinks of for accountants is bookkeeping; and the second thing they think is that accountants log chit in Excel.
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Any accountant loves the AI handling menial tasks. It has way more storage capacity, and can spit out spreadsheets that we need to use for Directors and above.
I literally tell people the tax accounting software online is the best stuff to use for returns because of how automated it is. That doesn’t mean if you’re a business to not use an accountant, it just streamlines the work involved.
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Any accountant loves the AI handling menial tasks. It has way more storage capacity, and can spit out spreadsheets that we need to use for Directors and above.
I literally tell people the tax accounting software online is the best stuff to use for returns because of how automated it is. That doesn’t mean if you’re a business to not use an accountant, it just streamlines the work involved.
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