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post 1634367043 03-22-2021, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By SultanofBling
So this is an interesting ethics discussion.

We all agree that hogs are a pest in NA and cause a great deal of environmental/wildlife destruction.

However, the above fact does not make the conduct of "baiting the hog" any less cruel. Do we applaud the baiters, or condemn them for their actions?
applaud them since they fed the croco.

plus how is it any more sick than people who keep reptiles as pets then getting off @ live feeding them rodents and watching it unfold? Had he fed the croc a dog, then I'd say that's unusually cruel. or kicking a fire ant hill and throwing a kitten or frog in the ant hill. (that would be cruel and unnatural even though you're feeding another creature). way I see this situation is those crocs would likely target those hogs anyway.
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post 1634367133 03-22-2021, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted By SultanofBling
So this is an interesting ethics discussion.

We all agree that hogs are a pest in NA and cause a great deal of environmental/wildlife destruction.

However, the above fact does not make the conduct of "baiting the hog" any less cruel. Do we applaud the baiters, or condemn them for their actions?
I don't know that really qualifies as cruel. Hogs aren't native but they are aware of and know to fear alligators. If it was something that isn't aware of the inherent danger of water there, that would be different. They didn't force them there, they weren't captive, they didn't threaten them forcing the hog to choose between death by you or death by alligators.

And it is shown by the other hogs - the others were all too skittish to go more than the very edge of the water - they knew the inherent danger. This particular one chose it's instinct to eat over it's instinct to respect the water.
post 1634367163 03-22-2021, 02:29 PM
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If you are triggered by this then don't watch the videos of the guys in helicopters that get paid to mow entire heards of them down.
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post 1634367253 03-22-2021, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage
You could easily just put a bullet in the pig's head and let it die a quick painless death. Don't see the appeal in people watching them suffer for their amusement.
the appeal is watching the gator's hunting prowess in person.
post 1634368203 03-22-2021, 02:40 PM
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Nobody does this because 'hogs are invasive'. They do it purely out of sick pleasure not because they give a single phuck about someones land getting torn up
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Originally Posted By frutistafreeze
Nobody does this because 'hogs are invasive'. They do it purely out of sick pleasure not because they give a single phuck about someones land getting torn up
no one is doing it to watch a hog die, they are doing it to see an alligator attack
post 1634368463 03-22-2021, 02:42 PM
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Would put a bullet in the head of every single one with no remorse.

Wouldn’t give 3 fuks if the croc got one like that on its own.

But kinda on the fence about this because I feel like it was a “kill” setup by humans, but would be considered an unethical kill for any hunter.

If you gonna kill somthing then do it, if your gonna let nature take its course then do it. But this is more Roman coliseum type chit for entertainment at the boars death. Not really a fan.
post 1634368763 03-22-2021, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
I don't know that really qualifies as cruel. Hogs aren't native but they are aware of and know to fear alligators. If it was something that isn't aware of the inherent danger of water there, that would be different. They didn't force them there, they weren't captive, they didn't threaten them forcing the hog to choose between death by you or death by alligators.

And it is shown by the other hogs - the others were all too skittish to go more than the very edge of the water - they knew the inherent danger. This particular one chose it's instinct to eat over it's instinct to respect the water.
So I'll push you a little further on this. You believe that it wasn't necessarily cruel for the humans to throw bait into the water, despite the humans knowing there was a croc nearby? We should scrutinize the human act and mindset motivating that act -- not what the hog knew or did not know. The hog's state of mind, I'd argue, has less bearing on what constitutes a cruel act.
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post 1634369483 03-22-2021, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted By SultanofBling
So I'll push you a little further on this. You believe that it wasn't necessarily cruel for the humans to throw bait into the water, despite the humans knowing there was a croc nearby? We should scrutinize the human act and mindset motivating that act -- not what the hog knew or did not know. The hog's state of mind, I'd argue, has less bearing on what constitutes a cruel act.
No I don't. They were facilitating nature.
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Originally Posted By Jms89
If you are triggered by this then don't watch the videos of the guys in helicopters that get paid to mow entire heards of them down.
some were. few negged me, one said they wish it was me being eaten instead of the pig lol
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post 1634369883 03-22-2021, 02:56 PM
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As an avid hunter I don’t see the point of this. Wouldn’t lose a second sleep if these *******s fell over board
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The way those marshmallows floated by the hog's head right before it got pulled under....
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Originally Posted By Rexcalibr
one said they wish it was me being eaten instead of the pig lol
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
no one is doing it to watch a hog die, they are doing it to see an alligator attack
Doesn't change the fact that this was completely unnecessary and the act of a sick and twisted person
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Nature running its course is one thing but sitting there baiting like that is sick.
These things are everywhere down there and destructive.
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Originally Posted By frutistafreeze
Doesn't change the fact that this was completely unnecessary and the act of a sick and twisted person
being unnecessary doesn't mean it is wrong.

The rest is subjective.
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Originally Posted By frutistafreeze
Doesn't change the fact that this was completely unnecessary and the act of a sick and twisted person
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What a way to go. Hogs are smart, too. 100% chance it knew what time it was when Leatherhead grabbed on.
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Originally Posted By jackflag
The way those marshmallows floated by the hog's head right before it got pulled under....
lmaooo repped
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Originally Posted By Rexcalibr
[but lmaod at this due to marsmellows and the other hogs panicking and not knowing whether to try and help or leave.
you got issues if you think thats funny
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Originally Posted By fishnbrah
you got issues if you think thats funny
I feel bad and yea I probably do but I lost it when he said the two marshmallows floated by the pigs face right before he got pulled down Friday the 13th crystal lake style. I rewatched it and they did damn thats some cruel karma. probably gonna get neg bombed even harder but I cant help it I binge watch these animal attack videos sometimes, usually dont laugh at them but the old dude going "golly jee that was amazing" also had me

its more about im fascinated with how they eat and hunt. ever seen a croc eat a turtle?
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Originally Posted By frutistafreeze
Doesn't change the fact that this was completely unnecessary and the act of a sick and twisted person
Exactly, they were killing the pig purely for their own twisted sense of amusement.
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Originally Posted By Rexcalibr
I feel bad and yea I probably do but I lost it when he said the two marshmallows floated by the pigs face right before he got pulled down Friday the 13th crystal lake style. I rewatched it and they did damn thats some cruel karma. probably gonna get neg bombed even harder but I cant help it I binge watch these animal attack videos sometimes, usually dont laugh at them but the old dude going "golly jee that was amazing" also had me

its more about im fascinated with how they eat and hunt. ever seen a croc eat a turtle?
Don't get too bent out of shape over it.

The pig's last thought was probably "I SHOULD'VE KNOWN!" when he saw those marshmallows float on by.

Let this be a lesson gents, don't go diving after marshmallows on the bayou. Something's trying to make an example out of you.
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Thee are some sick in the head and mentally deficient people in the world. Nature is cruel but that is repulsive behavior in humans.
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Felt kinda bad watching that, the hog had no fukkin idea that the croc was really close, all he wanted was some marshmallows. Damn
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