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post 1634824793 03-28-2021, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By chino3
Sounds like op got strangled by a 125lb computer programmer and then had to watch his sloot get tag teamed by the Miyao bros
^^^^^
the fantasy of a BJJ cuck for sure.
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Imagine having an advanced degree in finance from a top university but getting mogged by some guy with barely any education takes your job because he just has good gut instincts on which stocks and companies to buy. Think about how all those well educated scientist were, and then some guy that couldn't even comb his hair and was regarded as retarded most of his life comes and changes the world (Einstein)

All over the country, lackluster, semi dumb but good at school idiots get themselves in massive debt thinking that if they pay enough, and go to the right school, they will be the best, and then they end up not being able to get or keep a good job in which they studied. It's talent.
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178
Imagine having an advanced degree in finance from a top university but getting mogged by some guy with barely any education takes your job because he just has good gut instincts on which stocks and companies to buy. Think about how all those well educated scientist were, and then some guy that couldn't even comb his hair and was regarded as retarded most of his life comes and changes the world (Einstein)

All over the country, lackluster, semi dumb but good at school idiots get themselves in massive debt thinking that if they pay enough, and go to the right school, they will be the best, and then they end up not being able to get or keep a good job in which they studied. It's talent.
low iq analogy lost me.




if talent is all you need, where are the BJJ talents dominating MMA right now?
post 1634824993 03-28-2021, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Slaydom
^^^^^
the fantasy of a BJJ cuck for sure.
Uncle rico over here talking about his alleged high school glory days and abilities. You wouldn’t 5 minutes with a legit WHITE BELT. ded fkn srs
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post 1634825073 03-28-2021, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted By chino3
Uncle rico over here talking about his alleged high school glory days and abilities. You wouldn’t 5 minutes with a legit WHITE BELT. ded fkn srs
post 1634825203 03-28-2021, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted By andrew28
As a former successful high school wrestler, I have a few things to say.

1. I tried really hard to like BJJ. I went in thinking I would enjoy it and that I was basically gonna start from scratch with a wrestling background to have a small head start with knowing positioning on some level. That was all true. But I legit hated it. Idk why. I was a very technical wrestler and wasn’t always the stronger/faster one on the mat. Perfect fit for BJJ, right? Nope. I was bored sh!tless. Part of it was that fukking gi. It annoyed me to be grabbing the other guy’s gi and him grabbing mine. Tried no-gi. Still didn’t like it. Way too technical for me and i got no enjoyment out of constantly hand-fighting, moving around in odd positions on the mat. It just flat out sucked. With wrestling there’s less grey areas. You execute your takedown in as quick of a burst as you got, and you get your two points. BJJ’s pace was nothing like that. Long story short, I just didn’t care for it.

2. I’m not so sure why wrestling is such a good base for MMA. Because BJJ guys basically know wrestling and then how to tap you out. Wrestling is mainly about control and nothing further. A wrestler isn’t gonna tap out a jiu jitsu guy if they’re both equal at their martial art. I think wrestling is a solid base because of the culture of a high school/college wrestling room. They’re in basically every school in America and there’s just a different toughness you get with wrestling than you do a BJJ room. You’re cutting weight all the time, over-training, barely eating, etc. It’s the physical discipline and explosiveness that wrestling requires that makes them tough. More so than the technique of wrestling being superior to BJJ.
I also wrestled in HS (though I was nothing special). I 100% agree with you. Didnt like BJJ all that much.

I would LOVE to find a wrestling camp/club/gym but they basically dont exist for adults outside of some of it being folded into a general MMA gym. I actually think Greco-Roman/Freestyle might even be better for self defense than BJJ provided you are physically fit.
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BJJ is for nerds that used to get stuffed into lockers in high school. It was their way to get back at the bigger bullies who abused them.

"Size doesn't matter! I've got my ninja BJJ skills!"

Then they find out that size is everything in combat sports.

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Originally Posted By JuceSpringsteen
BJJ is for nerds that used to get stuffed into lockers in high school. It was their way to get back at the bigger bullies who abused them.

"Size doesn't matter! I've got my ninja BJJ skills!"

Then they find out that size is everything in combat sports.

Shaq is a purple belt
post 1634825543 03-28-2021, 08:42 AM
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This discussion was had awhile ago (and I know im veering off topic a bit) and a miscer made a great point that its probably better for the average person to be strong and physically fit rather than good at BJJ. Average person cannot fight and its probably more useful to just be stronger than other people than more technical.

This is all from a self defense standpoint of course.


Example





Edit: typos.
post 1634825553 03-28-2021, 08:42 AM
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Derrick Lewis is a BJJ blue belt. Not an expert, but enough to incorporate it into his game to defend against it. We didn’t see much of it but Ngannou displayed some nice wrestling last night.

I do agree that BJJ has been marketed into something it really isn’t though. It has chubby middle managers thinking they’re Jason Bourne. It’s no accident that there wasn’t a wrestler up against Royce in the first ufc events, or that the sumo went up against a dangerous striker before getting a chance at him either. The whole thing as carefully planned advert for Gracie BJJ. But be that as it may, it is an incredible martial art. Who in the UFC, excluding wrestlers, doesn’t at least know a little bit of it, out of pure necessity?
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post 1634825593 03-28-2021, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver
Shaq is a purple belt
ya you see BJJ scumbags marketing high belts on UFC champs all the time. Like giving Junior Dos Santos a blackbelt when he won the title. LMFAO JDS doesn't even know how to spell BJJ.


i'm glad the current wave of champs straight up refusing their scam sponsorship
post 1634825753 03-28-2021, 08:48 AM
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And let’s be completely honest here. Anyone who got sold the lie they will turn into Jason Bourne with enough training normally gets that illusion squeezed and smashed out of them very quickly at any real gym.

Anyone with a grain of intelligence wouldn’t stick around a McDojo for longer then a week (no idea why op thought training at a mcdojo steamrolling cream puffs for months was a good idea)
post 1634825843 03-28-2021, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver
And let’s be completely honest here. Anyone who got sold the lie they will turn into Jason Bourne with enough training normally gets that illusion squeezed and smashed out of them very quickly at any real gym.

Anyone with a grain of intelligence wouldn’t stick around a McDojo for longer then a week (no idea why op thought training at a mcdojo steamrolling cream puffs for months was a good idea)
100% correct.


BJJ is a waste of time over the basics. 2-3 months max.


Beyond that is diminishing returns. the more you roll, the worse you become as a fighter. it's pure autism at that point.
post 1634825893 03-28-2021, 08:50 AM
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Eh in the grappling world, Gordon Ryan is wrecking grapplers from all styles, and Goron Ryan does bjj. Anyone from DDS would mess up a grappler of another style outside of bjj.
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
Eh in the grappling world, Gordon Ryan is wrecking grapplers from all styles, and Goron Ryan does bjj. Anyone from DDS would mess up a grappler of another style outside of bjj.
Gordon grapples more like a catch wrestler. No gi, leg lock.
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Lmao, fkin LMFAO @ MMAcels and wrasslers in this thread.


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Will get to see Gordon in MMA soon enough.
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Originally Posted By MilkforBrains
Gordon grapples more like a catch wrestler. No gi, leg lock.
Danaher has been the one to really push leg locks in bjj. Leg locks have always been around in bjj, just the Gracies thought they were cheap for some reason.
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BJJ and MMA are two different sports. Specializing in one will not make you world class at the other. That should not really be surprising to anyone.
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Originally Posted By Mercworx
I also wrestled in HS (though I was nothing special). I 100% agree with you. Didnt like BJJ all that much.

I would LOVE to find a wrestling camp/club/gym but they basically dont exist for adults outside of some of it being folded into a general MMA gym. I actually think Greco-Roman/Freestyle might even be better for self defense than BJJ provided you are physically fit.
That’s exactly what I’ve been saying for a while now. There really aren’t any wrestling rooms/clinics that you can go to outside of a high school or college wrestling mat. There are no belts in wrestling you can achieve and I don’t think you could incorporate a belt system in wrestling if you tried. It’s just too dependent on physicality and explosiveness. So the lack of earning the next belt would hinder a wrestling room from making money. But i still love the idea and wonder if they’d work out if you tried opening up a wrestling room with a monthly fee. It would probably be mostly has-beens like me who miss the sport and wanna continue it to stay in shape. I wrestled in freestyle and greco roman tournaments by myself in the offseason. Felt good showing up to the mat with no coaches in your corner and then beating the guy who has his coaches, family, and a bunch of his friends/relatives watching. Damn it where did the time go?
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Sambo > Wrestling > BJJ (ded fkn srs)

come at me if you need proof
You can't fight fate
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Originally Posted By Mercworx
This discussion was had awhile ago (and I know im veering off topic a bit) and a miscer made a great point that its probably better for the average person to be strong and physically fit rather than good and BJJ. Average person cannot fit and its probably more useful to just be stronger than other people than more technical.

This is all from a self defense standpoint of course.


Example


lol that guy was substantially bigger, was giving everything he had, and the BB was just toying with him, and it wasn’t even remotely competitive.

I got my start at an MMA gym during the peak of the JUST BLEED era. We would get juice heads left and right that for some reason would want to talk chit, just like OP. At first, my coach (a hot head from Brazil) would absolutely DESTROY anyone that wanted a shot. Like talking either humiliated to the point they scurried out of the gym or left with a limp. But then he started turning us loose on them. I was 6 months in, 155lbs, and could pick apart 9/10 people no matter the size or strength. The other 10%, I just had to get them to gas which would take a couple minutes at best, and then they would typically just give up lol.

Almost nobody in here has any room to talk, considering how few have legitimately trained or even been in a non school yard brawl. I, on the other hand, have trained and competed on the highest levels, and been in several scraps where I utilized Jiu jitsu to finish each situation.

But please, keep those arm chair quarter back opinions coming. It’s hilarious the level of cope that comes from these discussions. It’s like a tradie talking chit to an attorney for wasting money on education lol
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The Black Beast in the OP Derrick Lewis is the world's best bjj Blue Beltch though
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Originally Posted By TrickHenry
gracies also got outmatched by a flat earth/fake space stoner. Must be crying into their stacks of money when they fall a sleep.
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Originally Posted By CeBKa
Sambo > Wrestling > BJJ (ded fkn srs)

come at me if you need proof
wtf is sambo, ive seen aleksander emalanianko fight just fine while on the ground against bjj guys. like his match against gabriel gonzaga
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Originally Posted By Thunder999
Lmfao. I remember his passion for Q


How that blew up in his face. Been quiet as a rat pissing on cotton since
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bjj is a joke in a street fight

Brb eye gauging , bitting , pulling your ears apart, twisting breaking your fingers , pulling grabbing your balls and etc

Wrestling and striking on the other hand hnggg
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Originally Posted By dunnie
bjj is a joke in a street fight

Brb eye gauging , bitting , pulling your ears apart, twisting breaking your fingers , pulling grabbing your balls and etc

Wrestling and striking on the other hand hnggg
Why just street?


It’s been proven to be a complete farce in MMA
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Bjj is fun


But you should’ve used the clip of Derrick Lewis where he’s on the bottom and he just stands up lmaooo
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