So wtf is the point of a vaccine that doesn't prevent you from getting sick or spreading it????

No fuk that it’s overblown feagermonger horse chit

https://wbckfm.com/johns-hopkins-uni...ovid-the-same/

Congratulations on falling for their cherry picked statistic of 500k excess deaths.

You too with the Gov bs facts.

For how smart you *******s are, you sure like looking at the special Ed cherry picked stats.

Trillions of dollars, and the illusion of safety. Also, this could lead to a "vaccine passport" which is a way around a national ID, which they have been trying to pass for years.

everybody can cherry pick "studies" most are sponsored by the same people that are manufacturing the "vaccine"






bill gates wants to spray dust in the air to block out the sun the guy is a psychopath at best and I really believe he is something even worse than that.

same

which is funny cause they are trying real hard to make this vaccine look as horrible as possible in the media.

This.

Also, why are people in 'non-risk' categories getting this vaccine? It's no secret that these vaccines are all part of a clinical trial which doesn't finish till Q1 2023.... why are we putting our health on the line for an experimental jab? Just LOL at all the shills and apologists out there claiming its safe when they have no fukkin clue lmao

Just LOL at all the MISC scientists..

2019 MISC: How do I talk to a girl? Will I be a virgin forever?

2020-2021 MISC: Let me explain how mRNA and vaccinations work.

What happens if the immune system see's the spike on a cell and instead of fighting it off, says ok, this spike is something that is ok. Then you are f'd.

Cancer cells are well tolerated by the body and immune system. How do we know this vaccine won't cause a problem in say 1 out of 10,000?

When MSM pushes anything and their argument is completely one sided, no debate whatsoever, how can that be trusted? Essentially, there are many professional scientists who have concerns regarding the vaccine, put them on MSM, have a debate, allow people the opportunity to make a fully informed decision about it.

My understanding is the vaccine helps after day 12 (doesn't do much before) and prevents really severe cases. Doesn't seem to prevent catching it or spreading it in the first 12 days. I worry about people thinking the vaccine stops the spread. People I've talked to seem to think they are invulnerable after their shots.

I know JNJ has their own issues that would make them untrustworthy. However, isn't their single dose shot more like the traditional vaccine type and not the MRNA type?

People being unaware that being vaxxed doesn't stop you from catching or spreading is how they're going to convince people who are vaccinated to turn against people who refuse it.

Not all covid vaccines are mrna

Novavax, J&J, AZ and many more are still undergoing testing

Knowing 9th grade biology makes you a scientist now?

Far from 9th grade biology. Looking up anything on the Internet to support your beliefs doesn't make you a scientist either.

the total number of deaths in the USA from 2019 vs. 2020 does not agree with you, you stupid fear mongering *******

Lol brah its the 1 study youre citing thats cherrypicking. John Hopkins note on why the retracted and why the study is nonsense shows why:

"Editor’s Note: After The News-Letter published this article on Nov. 22, it was brought to our attention that our coverage of Genevieve Briand’s presentation “COVID-19 Deaths: A Look at U.S. Data” has been used to support dangerous inaccuracies that minimize the impact of the pandemic.

We decided on Nov. 26 to retract this article to stop the spread of misinformation, as we noted on social media. However, it is our responsibility as journalists to provide a historical record. We have chosen to take down the article from our website, but it is available here as a PDF.

In accordance with our standards for transparency, we are sharing with our readers how we came to this decision. The News-Letter is an editorially and financially independent, student-run publication. Our articles and content are not endorsed by the University or the School of Medicine, and our decision to retract this article was made independently.

Briand’s study should not be used exclusively in understanding the impact of COVID-19, but should be taken in context with the countless other data published by Hopkins, the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

As assistant director for the Master’s in Applied Economics program at Hopkins, Briand is neither a medical professional nor a disease researcher. At her talk, she herself stated that more research and data are needed to understand the effects of COVID-19 in the U.S.

Briand was quoted in the article as saying, “All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers.”This claim is incorrect and does not take into account the spike in raw death count from all causes compared to previous years. According to the CDC, there have been almost 300,000 excess deaths due to COVID-19. Additionally, Briand presented data of total U.S. deaths in comparison to COVID-19-related deaths as a proportion percentage, which trivializes the repercussions of the pandemic. This evidence does not disprove the severity of COVID-19; an increase in excess deaths is not represented in these proportionalities because they are offered as percentages, not raw numbers.

Briand also claimed in her analysis that deaths due to heart diseases, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia may be incorrectly categorized as COVID-19-related deaths. However, COVID-19 disproportionately affects those with preexisting conditions, so those with those underlying conditions are statistically more likely to be severely affected and die from the virus.

Because of these inaccuracies and our failure to provide additional information about the effects of COVID-19, The News-Letter decided to retract this article. It is our duty as a publication to combat the spread of misinformation and to enhance our fact-checking process. We apologize to our readers. "

The tendency to just take everything the "establishment" says is misinformation as divine truth is ridiculous. Just because the media and the powers that be are wrong on alot and push alot of dumb/fearmonger **** doesnt mean COVID isnt dangerous or that vaccines are altering your DNA or some nonsense

I like how the people who support getting the vaccine say it's safe

Yet, it's sooooo safe that the federal government granted these companies legal immunity, so if something does go wrong, you can't sue them for damages.

Sounds real safe bruh

With a real vaccine, you can always sue and get damages.

Brb National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program is antivaxx according to liberals.

take all vaccines at your own risk (dead fkn srs)

I'm just gonna leave this here for anyone who wants it

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/

I want to be able to argue against the vaccine, but at the bottom of the issue, all I really have to stand on is 'my body my choice,' which makes me feel like a fem *******.

It greatly reduces the chances...

How are these real conversations? Srs

Yah if youre young and healthy it marginally improves your chances - but more importantly probably prevents you from spreading it to oldcels like parents/grandparents/randos in stores that are much more likely to die from it. Chances pretty low but lots of younger/healthy people also have "lasting effects" and get hospitalized but dont die. Statistically unlikely, but vaccine is worth, its not altering DNA or anything lmao

So much rage, so little explanation.

phucking *******s, all of you

Can an antivaxxer who is a conspriacycel run me through the logic here

1. The elites want control
2. The elites give all the sheep vaccines that will kill them eventually/alter their genes
3. Leaving only ...... antivaxxers who hate the elite, meaning the elite are more vulnerable
4. ???
5. Profit?

I dont understand, the whole idea of a "mass culling" or "reset" - why would they kill off all the people who buy into their **** only leaving adversaries?

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Or maybe the vaccine is just safe and not part of some grand conspiracy

you realize the number of deaths increases annually, right?

Regarding last one
Tuskegee Syphilis Study

You'd be test subject #1 in a heartbeat.

The vaccine has nothing to do with making you sick, or keeping you healthy. The vaccine can be completely safe, or completely harmful..its irrelevant either way.

The vaccine is about control. The powers that be are seeing how easily people can be controlled. The lockdown was step one. The next step will be to see how they react when they're FORCED to do something as opposed to volunteering. Wanna fly? Vaccine. Grocery store? Vaccine. Travel anywhere? Vaccine. That's when the real fun will begin.

And if we've proven anything during this whole thing it's that if you threaten humanity or our way of life even a little bit..the masses will bend over and take it right up the ass as long as you dangle the idea of a return to normality in front of them. Take the vaccine, or don't, humanity has changed forever at this point either way. We lost the second we allowed the lockdowns

We should also answer the question. Why is control a bad thing? It's not necessarily control itself, but why is the government so pushy when it comes to everyone taking a vaccine that doesn't really benefit the young and healthy.

The answer = $$$$$

What deals have liberal politicians made in the background that we are unaware of? Why does big pharma not fund Trump as much as they funded hillary and biden?

It's kind of like why do democrats pretend to be against big tech censorship? Big tech loves democrats.

Why do democrat voters change their opinion on biden and kamala winning the primary when they were dead last / bottom in polls.

Why do liberals get upset if they live under a conservative controlled government. The government doesn't affect them.

Conservatives and liberals get affected by liberals being in the government.

E.g if you have California hipster living in Oklahoma. He will have it pretty good.

If you drop a red blooded american into California, he will be taxed to death and will be forced to live in the ghetto due to high COL and he won't be allowed to own a gun without going through the liberal process and even then, he can only purchase from their pre-approved list of guns.

How and why do liberals hate choice #1? That is what we need an answer to.