The biggest issue is that the government has disincentivized work by making unemployment compensation so high. Collecting government checks should never be more than doing actual work and getting a paycheck.

It should be capped at 50% of your previous wages to make people get back to work. It's the governments fault for giving people so much money for nothing.

All people are better off taking the garbage tier jobs.

Sadly the insane UI payments being given out has prevented that.

That's another discussion for another day. We're now talking about reality, and welfare exists in tis reality.
We can talk about the hypothetical world where welfare doesn't exist.


But to entertain your thoughts. Welfare is not just about romanticism. It's almost a form of insurance. We contribute because we know that it would help us just in case we or people we know get into a situation where welfare is needed.
It's part of the social contract

imagine makine 175k to be a congressman all they do is bitch and moan and raise their thumb up or down once in a while when it should be one vote for one policy rather than some sneaky bill with random **** thrown in. And yet they dont wanna do more thumb raising so they allow that to continue to slide.

Exactly

who here thinks the federal reserve is trying to crash the us economy?

I worked almost non-stop from 18 until recently (33) and I got laid off due to lack of work at my previous employer. I'm just going to chill for awhile, finish up my schooling and get my degree, maybe take some extra classes here and there, add some specialized training to my resume, etc. I plan to apply to places here and there solely so I can collect unemployment while I do this. Part of it is that I feel I need a break for a little while, and the other part is that a lot of openings out there for my field are asking for extra skills and certifications I don't have. I guess I was spoiled a bit at my last company.

nothing lazy about utilizing the system, collecting unemployment if you're doing something constructive with your time. then again I'm sure this thread wasn't about people like me in the first place, so...yeah

Nothing like incentivizing people that can’t afford kids and shouldn’t have any

It is worse than that though.

First, welfare barely even exists anymore. It died back in the Clinton era. A lot of people get SNAP/food stamps, which isn't a lot. And housing assistance is very under-funded with only 1 in 4 who meet the qualification actually receiving it.

But if you do receive any substantial government benefits then you face the benefits cliff; meaning that by earning just a few dollars more in income you lose a whole lot more in benefits. So you actually LOSE money by working.

It is a screwed up system and a reason I think that some kind of Universal Income without a bunch of red tape would be more beneficial.

If employers want staff they are going to have to pay more.

That's the story, like it or not. Adjusted for inflation I'm getting paid less than I was in my early 20s doing the same type of work. And now I'm a more experienced worker.

My employer is VERY understaffed and frankly I don't know if I can stick with them. I have been there about 2 weeks and the manager has a already asked me if I want to be a department manager, and then move to assistant manager and eventually get my own store. Even the assistant managers are paid hourly with a minimum 50 hour work week.

Right now I get up, work, drag my exhausted butt home, shower, eat, and go to bed. I have no life of my own at all and I am not getting enough physical recovery.

If I can't have any life of my own, or get paid enough to afford a basic apartment rental, then what is the incentive exactly?

The incentive would be to put yourself in a better position whether it be education or gaining more valuable skills that allow you to not have some BS job which would allow you to make more money with less effort long term.

Funny how people jump to "what's the incentive?" Idk its literally your life why would you not want to make it better?

holy crap too much real life. Before I was let go we had 4 people in Quality Control doing the work of about 6 people. We worked 50-60 hours a week, minimum. The company was really into Lean operations, so that meant getting as much work out of as few people as possible. Then we lost a big chunk of business because a customer took their business elsewhere. I was attached to that product line so I was let go -- along with 9 other people -- but those who remained were pissed off that all my work is now on their desks. They are all either quitting or looking for work elsewhere and the company is not doing anything about it.

The point is the whole system a lot of companies put together really makes no logical sense, doesn't properly incentivize employees, doesn't really give them a solid reason for wanting to stick around. Add to that when you're an employee you really have no incentive to work harder and set yourself ahead of the pack. Most companies are unscrupulous and give out better raises and promotions to those who they are personal friends with. Company I was recently let go from, one upper manager gave a promotion to some pretty 23 year old woman because he had a boner for her. That plus she babysat his kids on the side.

At the end of the day you need to look out for yourself, as companies are even less giving of a **** about employees in recent years than they ever have. Sad! Many such cases...

Remember folks, this economic advice is being to you by someone who works in retail.

Restaurants in my city are understaffed. The sad part is that people are making more in unemployment than going back to work. The restaurants simply cannot match the unemployment amount.

Can't say I'd want to go to a chitty job as a line cook. I'm told they're treated like utter chit

Part of the problem is that people are willing to do the 50-60 hour weeks. People are willing to work for lower wages because because professions get saturated.

you don't owe your company more than 40 hours/week. I have set this bar at every full time job I've worked (except for my first job out of college because I thought I'd get fired if I didn't). Would like it to be less TBH.

That might make sense if I were 20-ish and trying to build some type of career. But I'm not, I'm 50-ish and just want some decent work/life balance. I want to make some friends and to spend some time with my daughter while my health is still decent.Once upon a time I was younger and driven to try and move up to better positions. 20 years working cured me.And?

Replies ITT seemed to be about restaurants etc. being understaffed and having poor service.

I did work in retail- sales floor, cashier, supervisor, assistant manager, for a couple of different industries. When it comes to retail I've done damn near everything.

I also worked in an office corporate environment for insurance subrogation and then as an executive admin for various VPs, mostly at a securities broker-dealer.

who cares? kids are expensive and the money gravy train will end on september anyways. better than the government keeping it all. we should all get paid 10k for having to waste a year with this lockdown chit

Weren't you some sort of health care worker?

What is it with secretaries that think they know stuff?

This is true if LDAR'ing but that time can also be used to hone or refine a skill or craft that can lead to self employment.

How else are people going to pay for their ridiculously expensive rent.

Cause and effect...really just drives home the point of stagnant wages over an extended period of time.

Personally I have no problem working ~50 hours a week. Mostly as I was paid hourly at my last job, so 1.5x my wages was nice. However there comes a point where the 1.5x wage was really theonlybenefit received. When a promotion opens up or when annual reviews happen, the extra dedication doesn't give you a leg up. It's as you alluded to, it's almost like it's expected.

but yeah if I was salary no fking way would I be so gung-ho about working more than 40 hours a week. Hell my last employer started moving away from wages and moving everyone to salary so they wouldn't have to pay overtime.

The next job I get I want 4 10s. Tired of 5 day work weeks.

Countries in the Western World (including the US, Canada, France, Germany, UK etc) could stipulate that if a male citizen is on unemployment for more than 6 months, they'll be transferred into a military program (like, the literal actual military, not being figurative), where they'll learn new skills, travel abroad and be fast-tracked to a role within the military or just use it as a booster to get a job in civilian life after their time in the military.

This idea may actualyl be MORE costly than the unemployment itself, but it's better I guess?

Ded fkn SRS


Like really ded fkn srs, not even joking

I'm not even joking serious. Exercise everyday, month in one country, another month in another country, going around the world, building homes and hospitals and irrigation systems and plumbing networks for third worlders et cetera et cetera that kind of thing

I once got pulled up for working the lowest (ie contracted hrs) in the dept. I asked them which work I had been assigned that had not been done. They left me tf alone after that and I left soon after.

you got lucky they didn't just load you up with more work to justify the extra hours. A lot of companies would look at that like you didn't have enough work to do, no matter how much work you did and how efficient you were. but I'm sure you knew this

i think its pretty bad in other states

but floridas max unemployment is 275 per week. i find it ridiculous some states can make thousands on it while others make chit.

but whatever

I agree with ernie 10000000000% on that, miscers who look up to Loyyd Blankfein and company as hard workers who deserve their money are retarded

Yes please. Or something like that.

When I started I asked if I could work 4 longer days instead of 5 and I didn't even want 40 hours because I have other stuff that I have to do.

Sat: 8:30 am to 8:30 pm
Sun: 9 am to 8 pm
Mon: 9 am to 8 pm
Tues: 7:30 am to 7:30 pm

For a princely $12 an hour. I truly like the store manager and assistant and they are overwhelmed with the amount of work that needs to be done with not enough staff. They need at least 2 more people that work like I do and then a few more entry level high school types.

IMO if the company had good sense they would add another assistant manager to each store w/a regular 40 hour schedule. Probably wouldn't cost that much more than having one assistant running up a bunch of overtime and the store manager might be able to do more actual management instead of running themselves into the ground doing scut work.Haven't worked in health care directly, though I was an admin for the VP of Finance for a large regional hospital/healthcare organization.

Me knowing stuff isn't about having been a secretary. It's just experience and self-study.

Just my retail experience:

- sales
- merchandising
- purchasing
- receiving
- weekly payroll + hiring paperwork
- cashier and front end management
- supervisor/assistant manager
- lots of cash handling including drawer set up/count down, deposits, safe count, ordering change

For the type of work I'm doing now I've even put in some semesters of specialized education.

post face & noodz or gtfo