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Originally Posted By Leathalx
Dude you met a gold digging skank. You were nothing but a wallet with a dildo to her.

Try to analyze your interactions and make sure you recognize the signs next time and treat them accordingly.
Yeah, I mean this is clearly true. But the first 1.5 interactions with her she was not acting like this. She only started acting like this when she found out how much money I had, and how much the people I interact with had. While she has dated rich guys in the past and gotten a bunch of free chit from them, we split all the bills on our first trip and she was like the most loyal caring wifey I could have ever imagined. But she started reading about different things on the second trip and all of a sudden it shifted her into another crazy/princess/golddigger gear that I hadn't seen before.

I actually put her in the friendzone today, which is hilarious. Can probably still fuk her in the future without dealing with all the mental issues from past male relationships. Sounds like a win-win actually lol.
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I couldn't be bothered reading but can still give solid advice: the whole girlfriend thing is overrated.
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Originally Posted By Rattelsnake
How did you vet her? Travelling isn't free. Where was she getting the funds to travel the world prior to meeting you? Very few trust fund babies in this world. It's a red flag if she was shady on that.

I've done a fair amount of travelling myself. There's primarily three ways a woman can travel the world so "freely":

1) She's on a paid business trip and her business is funding it. Expect her to be working around the clock for her business and very little to zero free time for companionship. If she does have free time, she's probably too exhausted from working to fully enjoy it.
2) She worked hard to save up money for it. She is either fresh out of school and taking a break before starting her first job, or currently on leave with current employer or in between jobs for different employers living on/travelling on her savings till it gets low enough for the need to go back to work again. She probably already has an itinerary though, since she has been long planning this and she's worked very hard to save up for it, she is not likely to deviate from her own itinerary to go on some random man's travel itinerary (likely also a rent-cel who is also in between rental leases).
3) She's a whore and gets random men (who she's intimate with) to fund it, which is how she is so easily/readily available to follow a random man's itinerary.

Just vet the next travel partner harder next time. If it's another woman #3 (and likely it will be as that's the only type who is that readily available), perhaps make it clear should you decide to fund it, that it's directly tied to her performance in meeting your specific needs and behavioral expectations of her. Additionally make the consequences and penalties clear for unacceptable behavior (for example, penalizing displays of female entitlement mentality, etc.). Or at least that's what I would suggest. Then again, I'm one of those believers that people generally don't get what they deserve in life, they get what they negotiate. And everything's negotiable.
This is why OP should be the travelling guy whose at huge house parties enjoying life, mingling with these girls rather than the guy making wall of text threads because he's looking for relationships on a 3 week holiday.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
Yeah, I mean this is clearly true. But the first 1.5 interactions with her she was not acting like this. She only started acting like this when she found out how much money I had, and how much the people I interact with had. While she has dated rich guys in the past and gotten a bunch of free chit from them, we split all the bills on our first trip and she was like the most loyal caring wifey I could have ever imagined. But she started reading about different things on the second trip and all of a sudden it shifted her into another crazy/princess/golddigger gear that I hadn't seen before.

I actually put her in the friendzone today, which is hilarious. Can probably still fuk her in the future without dealing with all the mental issues from past male relationships. Sounds like a win-win actually lol.
Of course she wouldn't be acting like a gold digging skank first to get you riled in, they all do that. Pretend that they truly love you until you're on the hook.

She may be like that to all new people she meets, or to the actual close people in her life.

Another thing that could have happened, is you could have projected that onto her. So by paying for her and showing off how rich you are and how much money you have you may have triggered some defense mechanism or offended her in some way, where she was like:

"Why is he trying to impress me with his wealth? I thought we had a good personal connection. Is he like most guys, just trying to use me and all he has to offer back is his money, rather then the human connection?"

And then once that thought got ingrained in to her, she was like: "Well fuk him, if he wants to treat me like that, I'll treat him like a wallet"
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Cliffs and pics needed.


Not reading until then.
When Trump faces a reality she can't stand, she becomes highly emotional and illogical. Every crisis is met by histrionics, tantrums and an inability to deal with facts. "Its a HOAX! Its a FRAUD!"

The emotion then becomes the reality. Those of us with girlfriends are familiar with this phenomena. Donald Trump menstruating 24/7: "Blood coming out of his eyes, blood coming out of his WHEREVER."
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Originally Posted By Rattelsnake
How did you vet her? Travelling isn't free. Where was she getting the funds to travel the world prior to meeting you? Very few trust fund babies in this world. It's a red flag if she was shady on that.

I've done a fair amount of travelling myself. There's primarily three ways a woman can travel the world so "freely":

1) She's on a paid business trip and her business is funding it. Expect her to be working around the clock for her business and very little to zero free time for companionship. If she does have free time, she's probably too exhausted from working to fully enjoy it.
2) She worked hard to save up money for it. She is either fresh out of school and taking a break before starting her first job, or currently on leave with current employer or in between jobs for different employers living on/travelling on her savings till it gets low enough for the need to go back to work again. She probably already has an itinerary though, since she has been long planning this and she's worked very hard to save up for it, she is not likely to deviate from her own itinerary to go on some random man's travel itinerary (likely also a rent-cel who is also in between rental leases).
3) She's a whore and gets random men (who she's intimate with) to fund it, which is how she is so easily/readily available to follow a random man's itinerary.

Just vet the next travel partner harder next time. If it's another woman #3 (and likely it will be as that's the only type who is that readily available), perhaps make it clear should you decide to fund it, that it's directly tied to her performance in meeting your specific needs and behavioral expectations of her. Additionally make the consequences and penalties clear for unacceptable behavior (for example, penalizing displays of female entitlement mentality, etc.). Or at least that's what I would suggest. Then again, I'm one of those believers that people generally don't get what they deserve in life, they get what they negotiate. And everything's negotiable.
From what I understand from conversations with her, it was a mix between 2 & 3. She actually has lived in Australia for the past 10 years and said she saved a lot of money from there. But she also would tell me her parents would give her money as well. She has been back home in South America due to COVID, and has savings and nothing to do, so she travels.

My guess is that her savings are limited(and she doesn't know how much longer she'll need them for, so she wanted to try to retain as much as she could while still traveling with me. From my further interactions with her, I don't get the feeling she's actually some horrible scandalous scammy person, she just is an awful communicator so much of what she does comes off as somehow being scummy.
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Originally Posted By Leathalx
Of course she wouldn't be acting like a gold digging skank first to get you riled in, they all do that. Pretend that they truly love you until you're on the hook.

She may be like that to all new people she meets, or to the actual close people in her life.

Another thing that could have happened, is you could have projected that onto her. So by paying for her and showing off how rich you are and how much money you have you may have triggered some defense mechanism or offended her in some way, where she was like:

"Why is he trying to impress me with his wealth? I thought we had a good personal connection. Is he like most guys, just trying to use me and all he has to offer back is his money, rather then the human connection?"

And then once that thought got ingrained in to her, she was like: "Well fuk him, if he wants to treat me like that, I'll treat him like a wallet"
Yeah, your last point might be right. There were a couple times we got into arguments, and she ended up saying after, "Wow, you actually do like me", so either she's not used to guys liking her or she figured I was some gringo thinking of her as a sugar daddy and not trying to have good conversation with her or something.
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Originally Posted By Schnitzl
This is why OP should be the travelling guy whose at huge house parties enjoying life, mingling with these girls rather than the guy making wall of text threads because he's looking for relationships on a 3 week holiday.
Lol, to be honest I met this girl back in January when I was still in full beta mode from COVID. My social skills were dead, and I was like 20 pounds heavier than I am now. I had only gotten laid in Brazil a few times before her on the trip, and they were not girls I was into. I will credit her with pulling me out of a long rut.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Cliffs:

Op is paying women to travel with him and have sex with him.

Matt Gaetz and Joel Greenberg are currently going down for exactly this.
Nah, I've never expressly paid for a girl to travel with me and won't. I cut this girl off as soon as she tried to swing this into a situation where she calls the shots and I pay for them 100%.

She thought she had me hooked in(which was kind of true), but luckily I have a good girlfriend who analyzed the situation and told me to get the fuk away from her. Which I did like 10 days later after testing her a couple more times.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
Yeah, 100%. It's crazy how quickly I went from being this awesome hot guy who she had crazy times with to a boring older guy in her mind. Money is the ultimate vaginal dryer.
I bet you think strippers like you too. lmao jk.

Sounds like she was just a selfish hoar and you just got caught up. Move on to the next one and please don't travel with her again. It's just going to bring you down the same rabbit hole or you trying to get revenge bang out of it and her trying to manipulate you for something. Old song, gross dance.
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Originally Posted By littlemissy
I bet you think strippers like you too. lmao jk.

Sounds like she was just a selfish hoar and you just got caught up. Move on to the next one and please don't travel with her again. It's just going to bring you down the same rabbit hole or you trying to get revenge bang out of it and her trying to manipulate you for something. Old song, gross dance.
She's pretty toxic, but I didn't actually realize this until I threw some tests at her over the last month. Some of the ways she reacted to what are relatively simple items to have a relationship were mind boggling. Looking back, she clearly plays the long game and I'm sure if I went on another trip with her she would have started acting even worse.

Sucks, because if I would have maintained the facade that I was nothing more than a modest backpacker without much in terms of financial resources, I likely could have kept her around in some fashion to keep fuking. She was a super fun person to party with, and could definitely open doors with her abilities to socialize. I'll have to remember this for the next girl like her.
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She would do odd things like getting all kinds of different guys Instagram while we were out(when these guys were clearly hitting on her), and she started wanting me to pay for everything without giving any type of real commitment in return. In contrast, the first couple weeks



Dude re-read this 5 times


Haven’t figured it out yet?

This girl is a walking plethora of mental social issues. She deliberately disrespected you, herself and any relationship you had in every single way while deliberately using you


Girls are fukn evil man. I’m sorry OP you sound like a good guy you’re all about the spending life together, falling in true love being there together while she took you for an absolute joy ride

Worst part is she’s talking to other guys right this second and good chances one or two of them is when she was with you

Run away, she texts, tell her she has social mental issues and is a lost cause and never reply back because she will seek closure and justify her mental order to never change

Stay safe out there bros. Wake up. Woman do NOT need you and WILL use you
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breh, she was terrible. stop giving her any sort of foothold in your mind



the thing thats annoying to me as a girl.. she doesn't have to learn. she can just keep using guys like that. to the extent she gets tired of it
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Originally Posted By Olympia2018
She would do odd things like getting all kinds of different guys Instagram while we were out(when these guys were clearly hitting on her), and she started wanting me to pay for everything without giving any type of real commitment in return. In contrast, the first couple weeks



Dude re-read this 5 times


Haven’t figured it out yet?

This girl is a walking plethora of mental social issues. She deliberately disrespected you, herself and any relationship you had in every single way while deliberately using you


Girls are fukn evil man. I’m sorry OP you sound like a good guy you’re all about the spending life together, falling in true love being there together while she took you for an absolute joy ride

Worst part is she’s talking to other guys right this second and good chances one or two of them is when she was with you

Run away, she texts, tell her she has social mental issues and is a lost cause and never reply back because she will seek closure and justify her mental order to never change

Stay safe out there bros. Wake up. Woman do NOT need you and WILL use you
Yeah, I'm not planning to block her on social media or anything like that, but she blocked me from her IG story and hasn't responded to a voice message sent this morning and I'm not planning to send anymore.

I figured out she was using me sometime at the end of the last trip and I kept things together in order to enjoy the remainder of the trip(and assumed she'd lash out and do something crazy if I confronted her about it). But after that I knew things were likely over and I mentally processed once I arrived home. Now that things are officially over I'll forget about her relatively quickly.

Definitely learned a lot here, and will make a point not to be as naive next time. Obviously you can let your guard down more in the US, but in 3rd world countries there's obviously more sophisticated tactics being employed. Lucky she didn't steal anything more from me other than some experiences. but I did get the best sex of life and some fun out of it so it's not a total wash. But this next trip could have been interesting if I had been super naive about it.
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i don't agree with this beta bux chit.

idk, i get this sense that you're trying to contort your personality around her

if you have money just put your foot down when she starts to act that way?

i mean.. i know you did but i dont see the problem. just don't put up with it

how can you hide you have money forever from someone you want to be with?

but i totally agree with hiding it up to a certain point. or not being flashy originally
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Originally Posted By propreffered7
i don't agree with this beta bux chit.

idk, i get this sense that you're trying to contort your personality around her

if you have money just put your foot down when she starts to act that way?

i mean.. i know you did but i dont see the problem. just don't put up with it

how can you hide you have money forever from someone you want to be with?

but i totally agree with hiding it up to a certain point. or not being flashy originally
Yeah, I mean eventually she would have found out and started acting this way even if I kept it a secret for longer. As I found out when I started testing her during this last week, she had a wide variety of tactics to deflect blame and try to turn the person accusing her of bad behavior into the bad guy. Once she started doing this, I cancelled our trip the morning before we were leaving and we ended it.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
Yeah, I'm not planning to block her on social media or anything like that, but she blocked me from her IG story and hasn't responded to a voice message sent this morning and I'm not planning to send anymore.

I figured out she was using me sometime at the end of the last trip and I kept things together in order to enjoy the remainder of the trip(and assumed she'd lash out and do something crazy if I confronted her about it). But after that I knew things were likely over and I mentally processed once I arrived home. Now that things are officially over I'll forget about her relatively quickly.

Definitely learned a lot here, and will make a point not to be as naive next time. Obviously you can let your guard down more in the US, but in 3rd world countries there's obviously more sophisticated tactics being employed. Lucky she didn't steal anything more from me other than some experiences. but I did get the best sex of life and some fun out of it so it's not a total wash. But this next trip could have been interesting if I had been super naive about it.
Coming from a guy who’s been with over 500 woman and settled down now to someone who’s been there my lowest and built me into a king I can tell you if you date a girl or say you getting laid by her is okay that she deliberately hurt and used you, puts you in a state of denial.

It’s okay we all go thru it. Even me before. Hell man I’ve been pushed down a stair case, nearly ran over 3 times once my foot and had two girls fighting for me in a parking lot yelling to each other “he fukd me 8x in a day! Well he fukd me 9 and cam in my ass” I can tel you this,

The woman you deserve will come to you when you least expect it. And you’ll be together forever no matter what as if the universe revolved in making this happen


And it will not happen with $ or the shirt you wore or car you drive. Find yourself, focus on you, and strive to be better every day, if you fail you try again. Stop contacting her immediately and go for a run and some air or whatever brings you peace and a way to search for yourself. Good luck OP
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens
Yeah, I mean eventually she would have found out and started acting this way even if I kept it a secret for longer. As I found out when I started testing her during the last week, she had a wide variety of tactics to deflect blame and try to turn the person accusing her of bad behavior into the bad guy. Once she started doing this, I cancelled our trip the morning before we were leaving and we ended it.
oh i agree. i just see you saying things like "next time" " i wont do this" " i wont do that"

i say fuk it man. do what you want

quash that chit when you see it; e.g. a bish using you for money
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Well I don’t know her but let’s say theoretically if she is a golddigger manipulator user etc. Of course those people don’t show their true colors from the start. That is the whole con. They have to con you into trusting them first.

That is why love bombing is a well known tactic of abusive people. They love bomb you to reel you in with love, sex, attention, gifts etc to make you think they are an amazing person and that you can trust them.

Same with financial con artists. They will come across as extremely trustworthy at first and present all these markers of trust and confidences. Going above and beyond to make you trust them. So they can reel you in for the long con later.

Idk if she was actually that bad but just saying in general you should be aware that this is a common manipulation strategy that users and abusers and con artists etc all use.
Yeah, I mean I could definitely tell she was getting worse and worse. I also don't think she was some elaborate con artist, but another rad flag was that she was very secretive about what she was doing on her own outside of our experiences, and always seemed to be scheming something. Although many of my suspicions turned out to be unfounded, she eventually reached a point where she just didn't feel loyal or entirely trustworthy. Once I started asking questions, I could tell she really wasn't interested in anything about me that couldn't benefit her in some way.

After a few days, I'm like 90% over her and considering that we're not talking anymore I'd imagine it will be gone soon. Lol, I just wish I lived in a bigger city so I could try to find someone who looks like her that doesn't have the same issues. The Midwest is safe, but boring and lacks the excitement that I'm looking for.
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Funny the Midwest has the GOAT guys imo. Goodlooking All American safe boring guys are GOAT. I’ll happily pass on any excitement lmao.

Anyway just watch your back that some new girl doesn’t con you. Especially if you are looking for excitement and chemistry and great sex. Those things are very easy for women to fake to reel in guys they are targeting. It’s the easiest manipulation tactic to use on men.
Lol, I definitely agree. But this girl definitely wasn't faking it. She was a sexual powerhouse, and this was likely because of her personality disorders.
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Originally Posted By BidensAmerica
No pics huh u lying ***
I just went back and looked at some pics of her, to be honest she's not thaaaaaaat hot. Just a really charismatic personality and great sex.

But based purely on looks, she would never be able to get away with the chit she does. She has to lure the guys in.
post 1635761713 04-08-2021, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted By BidensAmerica
So pics or what
Lol, my guess is that this girl might be recognized on this board and likely could access most of my personal info it's not worth it if she somehow caught word. Heck, maybe someone on this board has even fuked her before.
post 1635762233 04-08-2021, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Olympia2018
Coming from a guy who’s been with over 500 woman and settled down now to someone who’s been there my lowest and built me into a king I can tell you if you date a girl or say you getting laid by her is okay that she deliberately hurt and used you, puts you in a state of denial.

It’s okay we all go thru it. Even me before. Hell man I’ve been pushed down a stair case, nearly ran over 3 times once my foot and had two girls fighting for me in a parking lot yelling to each other “he fukd me 8x in a day! Well he fukd me 9 and cam in my ass” I can tel you this,

The woman you deserve will come to you when you least expect it. And you’ll be together forever no matter what as if the universe revolved in making this happen


And it will not happen with $ or the shirt you wore or car you drive. Find yourself, focus on you, and strive to be better every day, if you fail you try again. Stop contacting her immediately and go for a run and some air or whatever brings you peace and a way to search for yourself. Good luck OP
Lol, this girl wasn't that crazy to push down a staircase or anything like that. But she did have some fuked up relationship trauma from the past, and I think that's what made her snap.

There was a time she was being too overbearing, and I kind of snapped at her on the last trip. And I think at that point she mentally kind of "broke up" with me because it was relatively benign but it triggered something from her past and that's when she started acting much worse. Kind of like monkey branching because she knew it was over with me eventually, and at that point was on a mission to see what she could extract from me before the end.
post 1635762513 04-08-2021, 05:41 PM
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didnt read, no pics, would neg but on r/c.
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