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Originally Posted By jlick⏩
Not scared of it either, but still having the internal vaccine debate.did they have covid before? did they take vaccine? i still aint scared of it.
The question is, the Joe Rogan "young and healthy will be fine" argument seems to be falling apart somewhat.
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
is it though? There have been news reports of young healthy people dropping dead from the original covid. The fact that it's making the news means it's not very common.Not scared of it either, but still having the internal vaccine debate.
The question is, the Joe Rogan "young and healthy will be fine" argument seems to be falling apart somewhat.
The question is, the Joe Rogan "young and healthy will be fine" argument seems to be falling apart somewhat.
Nothing wrong with having an internal vaccine debate. I guess you would have to know if the vaccine was effective against the varients or not. It seems like it isn't. I had a teammate who's sister is fully vaccinated and she still ended up in the hospital with a covid sickness. I think some people are just unlucky.
The chances of you knowing two young healthy people though...a little disheartening. Were they in your immediate circle? or friends of friends? hope they will be ok.
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
I always "grill" friends and family who have had it, and the struggle to breathe and fear that some describe is very real.Not scared of it either, but still having the internal vaccine debate.
The question is, the Joe Rogan "young and healthy will be fine" argument seems to be falling apart somewhat.
The question is, the Joe Rogan "young and healthy will be fine" argument seems to be falling apart somewhat.
The phrase i feel like i was drowning keeps coming up over and over.
So you do you, but it is a coin flip.
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Originally Posted By jlick⏩
even more odd that two are on ventilators since they have moved away from that except for certain circumstancesis it though? There have been news reports of young healthy people dropping dead from the original covid. The fact that it's making the news means it's not very common.
Nothing wrong with having an internal vaccine debate. I guess you would have to know if the vaccine was effective against the varients or not. It seems like it isn't. I had a teammate who's sister is fully vaccinated and she still ended up in the hospital with a covid sickness. I think some people are just unlucky.
The chances of you knowing two young healthy people though...a little disheartening. Were they in your immediate circle? or friends of friends? hope they will be ok.
Nothing wrong with having an internal vaccine debate. I guess you would have to know if the vaccine was effective against the varients or not. It seems like it isn't. I had a teammate who's sister is fully vaccinated and she still ended up in the hospital with a covid sickness. I think some people are just unlucky.
The chances of you knowing two young healthy people though...a little disheartening. Were they in your immediate circle? or friends of friends? hope they will be ok.
Originally Posted By x-trainer
Yeah but that comes with a bad respiratory infection as wellI always "grill" friends and family who have had it, and the struggle to breathe and fear that some describe is very real.
The phrase i feel like i was drowning keeps coming up over and over.
So you do you, but it is a coin flip.
The phrase i feel like i was drowning keeps coming up over and over.
So you do you, but it is a coin flip.
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Had sex with a COVID positive girl, licked her mouth and that snapper, didn't even catch it, so I have no clue how COVID works.
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Was just on a project where one of the office staff tested positive on April 23rd and passed away on May 2nd, caught the COVID while at work
Dude was probably mid 50s
Got two friends mid 30s-40 who tested positive, dude with the Brazilian variant, and they recovered in a few days
Dude was probably mid 50s
Got two friends mid 30s-40 who tested positive, dude with the Brazilian variant, and they recovered in a few days
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
Yes ventilator use is not as common as it originally was with covid. But they're still used. I have a colleague who was on a vent this past Dec/Jan. Why? Because without it he'd have died I'm told. Unlike my cousin who was on a vent last May/June and has continuing lung issues, my colleague does not seem to have ongoing lung issues which is good. He should be back at work in June.even more odd that two are on ventilators since they have moved away from that except for certain circumstances
Yeah but that comes with a bad respiratory infection as well
Yeah but that comes with a bad respiratory infection as well
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05-10-2021, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner⏩
But they admit it doesn't stop you from spreading it.Once about 70% of us have either been infected or been vaccinated, COVID will totally fizzle out. Happened in Israel. We'll be there soon if all the dumb rednecks and ignorant urban youths take their fukin shot. COVID is a solvable problem. Trump assembled an amazing team of scientists and businesses to warp speed the vaccine, now we have it and it is a cure for this shit situation and dumb fuks are refusing to take the cure. Amazing what ignorance and overconfidence will do. Fukin ******** / Misc scientists not even once.
Edit: Evidence is unclear*
Is it not the least bit curious to you that mRNA vaccines according to the CDC are a brand new class of vaccines, and they were ready for general population in months, wheras something like HIV has been 50 years and we are just now seeing some hope? seems unrealistic the way the world works.
Like I said my area has incredibly low population density. There is like 10 cases in my entire district. Our ICU is empty. Not worried.
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Originally Posted By JerryAtrix⏩
Probably saved by your mask.Had sex with a COVID positive girl, licked her mouth and that snapper, didn't even catch it, so I have no clue how COVID works.
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Originally Posted By PlanoLifter⏩
Yes I get that they use the vent to prevent death but I believe they only use it for people that are experiencing or have certain parameters - like not everyone that dies from covid right now would be put on a vent. But I might be misunderstanding it.Yes ventilator use is not as common as it originally was with covid. But they're still used. I have a colleague who was on a vent this past Dec/Jan. Why? Because without it he'd have died I'm told. Unlike my cousin who was on a vent last May/June and has continuing lung issues, my colleague does not seem to have ongoing lung issues which is good. He should be back at work in June.
And lingering lung issues are also a common side effect of a bad respiratory infection. I had one 20+ years ago while I was in college and rowing and it took me several months before I could get my times back to where they were before it as i was sucking wind.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner⏩
One nice thing about the virus is you're almost guaranteed to have no symptoms at all. Only a 1 in 5 chance you even know you have it!Sucks, OP. One nice thing about the vaccine is that it essentially eliminates your chance of gettingsevereCOVID. You can still catch it, but it's nearly guaranteed to be a minor infection. I hope your friends pull through. It will take them many months to recover from this.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Right at the onset of COVID One of our good customers died of covid.Was just on a project where one of the office staff tested positive on April 23rd and passed away on May 2nd, caught the COVID while at work
Dude was probably mid 50s
Got two friends mid 30s-40 who tested positive, dude with the Brazilian variant, and they recovered in a few days
Dude was probably mid 50s
Got two friends mid 30s-40 who tested positive, dude with the Brazilian variant, and they recovered in a few days
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...-from-covid-19
great fella.. Super republican, always talked fishing with him when he came up to Canada.
I am probably coming across as a panic-cel, but I don't have any answers. Just was shocking to have two coworkers all stressed their friends might die.
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05-10-2021, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
There has never been a leaky vaccine for humans.But they admit it doesn't stop you from spreading it.
Edit: Evidence is unclear*
Is it not the least bit curious to you that mRNA vaccines according to the CDC are a brand new class of vaccines, and they were ready for general population in months, wheras something like HIV has been 50 years and we are just now seeing some hope? seems unrealistic the way the world works.
Like I said my area has incredibly low population density. There is like 10 cases in my entire district. Our ICU is empty. Not worried.
Edit: Evidence is unclear*
Is it not the least bit curious to you that mRNA vaccines according to the CDC are a brand new class of vaccines, and they were ready for general population in months, wheras something like HIV has been 50 years and we are just now seeing some hope? seems unrealistic the way the world works.
Like I said my area has incredibly low population density. There is like 10 cases in my entire district. Our ICU is empty. Not worried.
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Neighbor across the street is a healthy 39yo dude, does amateur half iron-man that kind of thing.
He caught the Brazilian variant, wound up on his back for 10-12 days. He said for most of it he could manage 3-4 hrs sitting up a day.
He caught the Brazilian variant, wound up on his back for 10-12 days. He said for most of it he could manage 3-4 hrs sitting up a day.
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Got corona last week. Wasn’t fun for a few days and I dunno if it’s in my mind but I could feel it trying to do work in my lungs.
I was on zinc + quercetin + bromelain + C + D sporadically before and religiously throughout and have been good since yesterday - no fever since Friday.
Still a bit of a cough.
Definitely weirdest virus I’ve ever felt. Hope they recover quickly.
I was on zinc + quercetin + bromelain + C + D sporadically before and religiously throughout and have been good since yesterday - no fever since Friday.
Still a bit of a cough.
Definitely weirdest virus I’ve ever felt. Hope they recover quickly.
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Originally Posted By Evlve⏩
gald you are ok brahGot corona last week. Wasn’t fun for a few days and I dunno if it’s in my mind but I could feel it trying to do work in my lungs.
I was on zinc + quercetin + bromelain + C + D sporadically before and religiously throughout and have been good since yesterday - no fever since Friday.
Still a bit of a cough.
Definitely weirdest virus I’ve ever felt. Hope they recover quickly.
I was on zinc + quercetin + bromelain + C + D sporadically before and religiously throughout and have been good since yesterday - no fever since Friday.
Still a bit of a cough.
Definitely weirdest virus I’ve ever felt. Hope they recover quickly.
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Originally Posted By jimberee⏩
Only time I have heard "harden up" used a lot was by a bunch of New Zealanders I was hanging out with in Cambodia. Asked if they were Australian when I met them and they acted like I just slapped their mothers.Have you tried telling them to harden up?
You a Kiwi brah?
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Originally Posted By engj⏩
Doesn't sound fun.Neighbor across the street is a healthy 39yo dude, does amateur half iron-man that kind of thing.
He caught the Brazilian variant, wound up on his back for 10-12 days. He said for most of it he could manage 3-4 hrs sitting up a day.
He caught the Brazilian variant, wound up on his back for 10-12 days. He said for most of it he could manage 3-4 hrs sitting up a day.
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got my first Pfizer last week in Toronto after weighing pros and cons
covid risk complication is low. Covid complications can fuk the unlucky person up bad (Minnesota wild european draft pick)
Vaccine complication is extremely low. If I get sides from the vac or a bloodclot (less than 10p in Canada I believe) I can take meds and recover.
No brainer
covid risk complication is low. Covid complications can fuk the unlucky person up bad (Minnesota wild european draft pick)
Vaccine complication is extremely low. If I get sides from the vac or a bloodclot (less than 10p in Canada I believe) I can take meds and recover.
No brainer
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
No, it is not that curious. mRNA vaccines have been in development for many years. COVID came out of the blue and fuked the world up. And we answered with an extremely effective mRNA vaccine. We're cucking nature.But they admit it doesn't stop you from spreading it.
Edit: Evidence is unclear*
Is it not the least bit curious to you that mRNA vaccines according to the CDC are a brand new class of vaccines, and they were ready for general population in months, wheras something like HIV has been 50 years and we are just now seeing some hope? seems unrealistic the way the world works.
Like I said my area has incredibly low population density. There is like 10 cases in my entire district. Our ICU is empty. Not worried.
Edit: Evidence is unclear*
Is it not the least bit curious to you that mRNA vaccines according to the CDC are a brand new class of vaccines, and they were ready for general population in months, wheras something like HIV has been 50 years and we are just now seeing some hope? seems unrealistic the way the world works.
Like I said my area has incredibly low population density. There is like 10 cases in my entire district. Our ICU is empty. Not worried.
As for your local case volume - I think the more salient point is you have two friends in an ICU where their lives are constantly in danger and they will need months to recover if they survive. Are either of them on a ventilator? That's some serious ish. And totally avoidable if they had vaccinated.
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Originally Posted By mtor91⏩
Agreed, I think.got my first Pfizer last week in Toronto after weighing pros and cons
covid risk complication is low. Covid complications can fuk the unlucky person up bad (Minnesota wild european draft pick)
Vaccine complication is extremely low. If I get sides from the vac or a bloodclot (less than 10p in Canada I believe) I can take meds and recover.
No brainer
covid risk complication is low. Covid complications can fuk the unlucky person up bad (Minnesota wild european draft pick)
Vaccine complication is extremely low. If I get sides from the vac or a bloodclot (less than 10p in Canada I believe) I can take meds and recover.
No brainer
Only thing I worry about is a lack of long term testing of it, but those concerns are likely unwarranted.
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Originally Posted By olemo⏩
What drugs?Am 27 got covid ,did some drugs during my covidboredom. and survived.
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Originally Posted By PassiveLearner⏩
The two people on ventilators are in the city, where predictably the risks are much higher for almost any communicable disease.No, it is not that curious. mRNA vaccines have been in development for many years. COVID came out of the blue and fuked the world up. And we answered with an extremely effective mRNA vaccine. We're cucking nature.
As for your local case volume - I think the more salient point is you have two friends in an ICU where their lives are constantly in danger and they will need months to recover if they survive. Are either of them on a ventilator? That's some serious ish. And totally avoidable if they had vaccinated.
As for your local case volume - I think the more salient point is you have two friends in an ICU where their lives are constantly in danger and they will need months to recover if they survive. Are either of them on a ventilator? That's some serious ish. And totally avoidable if they had vaccinated.
At least one of them has a variant. It was my understanding that at this moment the vaccines available don't address the variants?
I mean, I dont really want regular covid either..lol.
Looking like we will all need regular boosters to stay on top of it just like the regular flu that has almost completely disappeared now.
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
I wouldnt worry about it, long term effects of getting covid aren’t known either. mRNA vaccines are new and now mainstream but mRNA tech was discovered the 50s or 60s and studied and mRNA technology has been used for other diseases like Zika, flu and some cancersAgreed, I think.
Only thing I worry about is a lack of long term testing of it, but those concerns are likely unwarranted.
Only thing I worry about is a lack of long term testing of it, but those concerns are likely unwarranted.
You can always get a non mRNA vaccine though those show to have more complications and usually less effective such as j&j & AstraZeneca
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Originally Posted By mtor91⏩
Was unaware. Thought all covid brands vaccines were mRNA.I wouldnt worry about it, long term effects of getting covid aren’t known either. mRNA vaccines are new and now mainstream but mRNA tech was discovered the 50s or 60s and studied.
You can always get a non mRNA vaccine though those show to have more complications and usually less effective such as j&j & AstraZeneca
You can always get a non mRNA vaccine though those show to have more complications and usually less effective such as j&j & AstraZeneca
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
This is where I'm at and I wonder each day if I'm just being stubborn and foolish. Likely so but still working from home and not doing a whole lot outside yet (if we haven't beaten a record for rain this spring I'd be surprised).Agreed, I think.
Only thing I worry about is a lack of long term testing of it, but those concerns are likely unwarranted.
Only thing I worry about is a lack of long term testing of it, but those concerns are likely unwarranted.
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
Yeah j&j & astra are viral vector based vaccines. I edited my post u quoted above to add more mRNA info / its historyWas unaware. Thought all covid brands vaccines were mRNA.
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