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post 1641050953 06-17-2021, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13
lol @ trying to discuss medical biology in the misc...bunch of ******* morons can barely get through the day.

Then wathcing a bunch of *******s on youtube shill whatever their beliefs are to get other retarded ****s to parrot whatever they say.
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Originally Posted By Lb54TG
Went to my endocrinologist today to to get my t levels checked.

He asked me if I got the vaccine, said no. He said “Well you should”

Said I wanna wait to make sure it’s safe and there’s no major short or long term side effects.
He said “well if it makes you feel better me and my family got it and we’re doing good”

Ok, well tell that to the CDC as they’re having an emergency hearing on heart inflammation due to vaccine lmao.

Foh
Ok. If the sheep who got the cuckvid vaccine wont have any complications after 20 years I'll have it.





Not srs. Just fukin lol at those sheep. Messed up lockdown/ mask fetishists.
Originally Posted By H00J
If they ever suggest chemotherapy tell them no thanks
This unless the condition is in early stages.

My sister refused it. Also the amputation. At least she enjoyed her remaining time outdoors travelling instead of being locked inside some hospital injecting chit into veins 24/7 and with couple limbs missing.
post 1641051693 06-17-2021, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted By H00J
most doctors are fukin stupid (srs)

If they ever suggest chemotherapy tell them no thanks
*Tolerance is the lube that slides the dildo of dysfunction into the ass of civilized society*

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As always: not medical advice but medical opinion crew
post 1641076913 06-17-2021, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By yewotm8


Cliffs:

mRNA strands cause cells to produce covid spike protein. They were not supposed to leave the injection site, they were not supposed to enter the bloodstream, and the spike protein itself was supposed to be a harmless signature (antigen) that the immune system could use as a target for future covid infection. All of these are false, and those injected get toxic spike protein all over their body and in their blood, that their own cells are making. They fuked up making the vaccine and pushing it through so badly that people are dying. Not worth the risk whatsoever, especially since bribing the nurse to put your name in the database without injecting would probably not cost that much.
thats Dr. Malone the inventor of MRNA technology?

Also why is Brett Weinstein talking about the dangers of the vaccine, didn't he just get vaccinated when it came out?

Im confused here. So he basically took a potential dangerous vaccine himself if he were so wise to it wouldn;t he have not taken it yet lol

seems like clickbait
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400
Ok. If the sheep who got the cuckvid vaccine wont have any complications after 20 years I'll have it.





Not srs. Just fukin lol at those sheep. Messed up lockdown/ mask fetishists.



This unless the condition is in early stages.

My sister refused it. Also the amputation. At least she enjoyed her remaining time outdoors travelling instead of being locked inside some hospital injecting chit into veins 24/7 and with couple limbs missing.
surgeries also increase the spread of the cancer

Did she read any books on the business of cancer?

I would do the same and travel freely my last few months
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Hooray! Somebody found something on the Internet that describes what they want to believe. Just LOL at MISC scientists at it again.
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Originally Posted By squat_blaster
Hooray! Somebody found something on the Internet that describes what they want to believe. Just LOL at MISC scientists at it again.
Well the apparently the guy in the video is the creator of the mRNA technology which the vaccine uses.
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Originally Posted By xeron
Imagine getting a vaccine for a virus with a 99.97% survival rate

Imagine getting a vaccine for a virus that a fat old man who eats McDonald’s everyday and never sleeps beat in 3 days (Trump)

Imagine getting a vaccine for a virus they tell you is so deadly yet places that largely ignored COVID guidance like Sweden and Florida have no mile long lines outside hospitals, bodies in the street, and life is completely normal if you don’t turn on the TV

If they make the vaccine mandatory to maintain a job, get a drivers license, shop for groceries, I’ll quit my job, drive an electric scooter, and work under the table. So should you.
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Originally Posted By Sinan09400
Ok. If the sheep who got the cuckvid vaccine wont have any complications after 20 years I'll have it.





Not srs. Just fukin lol at those sheep. Messed up lockdown/ mask fetishists.



This unless the condition is in early stages.

My sister refused it. Also the amputation. At least she enjoyed her remaining time outdoors travelling instead of being locked inside some hospital injecting chit into veins 24/7 and with couple limbs missing.
Mirin sisters decision to spend her remaining time traveling and enjoying herself. Had a family member also do that, and if I ever get hit with a diagnosis like that I plan on doing the same.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
you are saying then, that no healthy people (legitimately healthy, not clown world 5'6 250lbs fat fuks that claim healthy) have died or had serious issues from the virus?

how about long term side effects? lung damage? loss of taste/smell?
Seems like I've seen more reasonably healthy people get fuked over by the vaccine than covid. Not that there are tons and tons of either, but covid simply isn't a significant threat to someone under 60 who isn't already very unhealthy/sickly.

With the long-haul effects. What to go on there? The lying media? The constantly wrong CDC? I don't trust any of that. I have had covid personally and I know at least 20 personally in my daily life who've had it. Two had issues (one was 85+, the other a reasonably healthy male late 30s), all made full recovery eventually. Nobody has any lingering effects.

That isn't to say nobody can or will get long haul effects, I know 20+ people is not representative of everyone, but from what I have first-hand witnessed, I'm not sold on it being so bad.

I also think about when and under what context all the 'long' effects became a big talking point - the very moment you could shut down the argument about covid being a direct threat to one's life with actual statistics. Suddenly, at that moment the murky 'long haul' covid effects became this big thing. I think some people want to make it out as being far worse than it really is, some for $$$ like big pharm, politicians, Bezos and such, but also a lot of people who are spoon fed all this fear by the controlled media and almost seem to want it to be worse than it is.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
Also, what science based evidence do you have that mRNA technology will change your DNA? mRNA vaccines have been in use for decades
That is just wrong.

We've been working on these kinds of vaccines for decades. None have been successful and made it past animal trials. All the animal trials were failures, one actually had all the animals die, most had many getting very sick.

There has never been a mRNA vaccine prior to these. If there was one, name it. You can't.
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Originally Posted By katya422
- the vaccine concentrating in the ovaries seems to lead to an increase in miscarriages; at least for women who are 20 weeks or less
3 co-workers in healthcare facility got the vaccine, unknowingly were pregnant and suffered miscarriages.
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Originally Posted By CulturalDecay
Imagine being so stupid that you think you can actually die from COVID if you aren't already geriatric and infirm to the point that ANY virus is potentially lethal to you.

Can't believe how stupid people have become. Rational thinking and analytical thinking no longer exist.
So, what should the very old do? Just stay inside for the remainder of their lives? And what about people that are immune compromised (cannot get the vaccine) and are relying on herd immunity.
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There hasn't even been a traditional vaccine to combat the coronavirus so this vaccine is suppose to magically work? My GAWD there are some incredibility dumb people in the world...a few on this internet forum included.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
Also, what science based evidence do you have that mRNA technology will change your DNA? mRNA vaccines have been in use for decades
This idiot poster again.

For the last time, these are THE FIRST mRNA vakks ever put in himans
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sorta useless video tbh, the most important part of the whole thing they talked about (same thing that I was concerned about originally) (claim that s protein is cleaved from the membrane and that transmembrane does not keep it attached to immune cells) is mentioned for 1 second and never discussed in detail. They don't even discuss how often that occurs or what % /load it becomes. Basically it wasn't tested enough to hold in place (in humans) (therefore it doesn't work?); If those peptides do become free-roaming because they are cleaved off transmembrane then yeah it's def bad. But rn it's just speculation.

unvaxed brahs not going anywhere might as well wait a bit longer
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Originally Posted By nin-com-poop
There hasn't even been a traditional vaccine to combat the coronavirus so this vaccine is suppose to magically work? My GAWD there are some incredibility dumb people in the world...a few on this internet forum included.
exactly and all the left wing media does is put everyone who questions the vaccine as an anti vaxxer which is false ive gotten vaccines already. But im normal and question everything only a blind fool would just take a vaccine that has only months of trial.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
take it or don't take it can we just move on
dafuk happened to your rep power?
post 1641114423 06-17-2021, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted By ChaliHo
thats Dr. Malone the inventor of MRNA technology?

Also why is Brett Weinstein talking about the dangers of the vaccine, didn't he just get vaccinated when it came out?

Im confused here. So he basically took a potential dangerous vaccine himself if he were so wise to it wouldn;t he have not taken it yet lol

seems like clickbait
Weinstein: not vaccinated, using ivermectin to prevent infection
Malone: had the virus, developed long covid, read reports that the vaccine was helping people with long covid, got the vaccine
Kirsch: got the vaccine [travel reasons?] encouraged others to be vaccinated, his daughters are vaccinated, says he very much wishes that his daughters had not been vaccinated

None of the men state that they are against mrna vaccines. Just that the data coming in re:this vaccine is concerning and there are other ways to deal with the virus.
Originally Posted By Maestro
So, what should the very old do? Just stay inside for the remainder of their lives? And what about people that are immune compromised (cannot get the vaccine) and are relying on herd immunity.
In the video they say there is a peer reviewed meta analysis of the effectiveness of ivermectin to prevent and treat covid soon to be published. Haven't found that yet, so:

https://ivmmeta.com/
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post 1641114793 06-17-2021, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash
take it or don't take it can we just move on
Fast lane...

Precisely every girl is replaceable. Just that I ugh you know? Gotta do what the da approves of. But yeah it all boils down tj public opinion any way. Just you know usaf? Elsbz
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
did you use your rational thinking to consider the possibility of permanent lung scarring and loss of taste from covid?
So dirty stank pussy could have no taste ?

BRB off to Walgreens.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
I occasionally walk into our living room to see what's being shown on the news when my dad watches it (oldschool boomer who believes MSM 100%) and today to my surprise I saw that the government is investing $3.2 billion into PILLS that treat COVID. very surprising considering they are trying to suppress anything else that works without the vaccine.

I'm guessing the pill will have great effectiveness but that they are creating it so that pharma can make a huge profit off of it, instead of just letting people get away with ivermectin and HCQ.

the idea being, you should supposedly be able to walk into a pharmacy and get a prescription for COVID and they hand you a set of pills. odd, considering (I'm guessing here) there's nothing like that for the flu except OTC medications.

depending on the effectiveness of the pill and how soon it's released, this is a great reason to avoid the vaccine if one can.
I saw that today too. Government writing a big blank check to the pharmaceutical industry to create an anti-viral for COVID; patented I'm sure.

From the discussion in the video:

- anti-virals must be taken early to be effective and the example they give is tamiflu
- Malone actually went BK w/a company that was created to re-purpose existing drugs to treat other illnesses and diseases, said that the FDA makes it very very difficult to get done and that he is presently working for an arm of the military on this type project, says they require that he repeat a lot of lab work that means it will take years before they will actually be working on what they are trying to study
The U.S. government spent more than $18 billion last year funding drugmakers to make a Covid vaccine, an effort that led to at least five highly effective shots in record time. Now it’s pouring more than $3 billion on a neglected area of research: developing pills to fight the virus early in the course of infection, potentially saving many lives in the years to come.

The new program, announced on Thursday by the Department of Health and Human Services, will speed up the clinical trials of a few promising drug candidates. If all goes well, some of those first pills could be ready by the end of the year. The Antiviral Program for Pandemics will also support research on entirely new drugs — not just for the coronavirus, but for viruses that could cause future pandemics.

A number of other viruses, including influenza, H.I.V. and hepatitis C, can be treated with a simple pill. But despite more than a year of research, no such pill exists to treat someone with a coronavirus infection before it wreaks havoc. Operation Warp Speed, the Trump administration’s program for accelerating Covid-19 research, invested far more money in the development of vaccines than of treatments, a gap that the new program will try to fill.
Check out this BS:
At the start of the pandemic, researchers began testing existing antivirals in people hospitalized with severe Covid-19. But many of those trials failed to show any benefit from the antivirals. In hindsight, the choice to work in hospitals was a mistake. Scientists now know that the best time to try to block the coronavirus is in the first few days of the disease, when the virus is replicating rapidly and the immune system has not yet mounted a defense.

Many people crush their infection and recuperate, but in others, the immune system misfires and starts damaging tissues instead of viruses. It’s this self-inflicted damage that sends many people with Covid-19 to the hospital, as the coronavirus replication is tapering off. So a drug that blocks replication early in an infection might very well fail in a trial on patients who have progressed to later stages of the disease.
What a huge load of crap. They absolutely knew that it would be better to give txmts early rather than waiting until someone was extremely ill. There was just a huge political push to prove that HCQ wouldn't work.

Also: preventing replication is exactly what ivermectin does.

In B4 they change a molecule here and there and now it isn't cheap and safe generic ivermectin, it is covstop, a patented drug that they can charge a ransom for.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
did you use your rational thinking to consider the possibility of permanent lung scarring and loss of taste from covid?
A relative of mine that got over a bad case of covid has "permanent lung scarring". The doctor just x-rayed it and said it's basically not worth mentioning and he's totally fine. Yet this is counted under long-term effects. It probably isn't even permanent, just not fully healed yet lol. And he is pretty high risk.
Would kick em in the nuts
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Let me guess the covid pill turns out to be a pipe dream just like 95% of the vaccines did right after they received billions in tax payer grants

Why don’t they work on a pill to cure dysentery, obesity, heart disease or cancer
Things that actually kill people
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I will only take the vaccine if it makes my body produce more test srs
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Interesting preliminary data suggesting covid infection can cause brain pathologies even for those with mild acute symptoms.



https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...90v1.full-text
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It’s easy to find a video of whatever it is you want to believe on YouTube. Covid is way more dangerous than the vaccine by every measurable metric for every single age group. You Gotta be dumb as a rock to not get vaccinated at this point.
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Originally Posted By Reliance012
Interesting preliminary data suggesting covid infection can cause brain pathologies even for those with mild acute symptoms.



https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...90v1.full-text
The spike protein crossing the blood brain barrier + neurological issues isn't exactly new info. Seems like this study was specifically looking at parts of the brain that are involved in taste and smell.

Too bad the vaccine doesn't prevent infection.
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Originally Posted By jamesfrancis1
It’s easy to find a video of whatever it is you want to believe on YouTube. Covid is way more dangerous than the vaccine by every measurable metric for every single age group. You Gotta be dumb as a rock to not get vaccinated at this point.
This
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Originally Posted By homers54321
I'm willing to bet the people who warn about the vaccine have no problem using microwaves, cell phones, wifi, take preworkouts/steroids, eat processed crap. All chit that could affect you long-term
What’s your point? I know all the risks with all of those and I’m cool with it. Have no idea with the vaccine
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Originally Posted By katya422
The spike protein crossing the blood brain barrier + neurological issues isn't exactly new info. Seems like this study was specifically looking at parts of the brain that are involved in taste and smell.

Too bad the vaccine doesn't prevent infection.
The vaccines considerably reduce the odds of successful viral infection and subsequent transmission.

What evidence do you have that the spike protein is cytotoxic or damaging to the body more broadly? This is a talking point that is entirely unsubstantiated and born from a very few terribly concluded studies. Let’s see your evidence.
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