Thread: just lol @ American houses
06-26-2021, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted By gixxer0.6g⏩
I'm fine with mechanical cooling. I'm saying design of homes should be optimized to take advantage of things like this. Most homes are not. If you have alternative ways of designing a house that cut energy costs and work better with the local environment, you should make them that way. There are many places in California that would greatly benefit from that type of design.You make it sound like utitlty companies can't increase capacity.
There are thousands of mechanical engineers around the globe and organizations dedicated to energy saving hvac design. You come in here with the idea that natural ventilation is this new concept we should all implement. If it was so good it would be in every commercial building out there (which it sort of is in the form of air side economizers). But the truth is, Americans aren't comfortable at 80+ deg inddor air temps so unless you change their mind, mechanical cooling will always be required
There are thousands of mechanical engineers around the globe and organizations dedicated to energy saving hvac design. You come in here with the idea that natural ventilation is this new concept we should all implement. If it was so good it would be in every commercial building out there (which it sort of is in the form of air side economizers). But the truth is, Americans aren't comfortable at 80+ deg inddor air temps so unless you change their mind, mechanical cooling will always be required
06-26-2021, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Same is said for you.There is so much waste it is honestly embarrassing.
You have my word as a Schons.
06-26-2021, 09:06 AM
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06-26-2021, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted By ChrisLS8⏩
Yes.Ever use a swamp cooler?They are absolutely chit in comparison to modern mechanical cooling. They are still 100 times better than a windcatcher.
At the end of the day those people are suited to 90 degree ******t temps and no their wind catchers will not drastically lower the temps. Brb still 80+ degrees
It's clear you haven't actually been to any arid country. They used them in Mexico and South America as well and they don't work well at all.
At the end of the day those people are suited to 90 degree ******t temps and no their wind catchers will not drastically lower the temps. Brb still 80+ degrees
It's clear you haven't actually been to any arid country. They used them in Mexico and South America as well and they don't work well at all.
The summer of 1980 broke or tied 29 daily records, many of which still stand to this day. In 1980, North Texas had 69 days above 100 degrees, 42 of which were consecutive. This year we have had 46 days hotter than 100, 40 consecutive as of Wednesday.
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Had swamp coolers for the cabins at the summer camp I went to that year.Jul 25, 2011
I was here for summer 2011 too, when the record from 1980 was broken.
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06-26-2021, 09:23 AM
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you ever went on a tour of old houses in the south from like 1800s to early 1900s they were designed with features for ventilation and natural wind flow. obviously a cooling pool isnt going to work in a humid area.
it was the 1950s they started making houses that were just concrete/brick rectangles with few windows and now they dont even try because everyone there has AC. they stopped paying attention to how windows were lined up and what direction you would have wind flow in the building.
The old designs with ventilation on the top, you get the opposite of those wind catchers, instead of air coming in the top and going out the bottom, you got air coming in the windows and leaving the top.
it was the 1950s they started making houses that were just concrete/brick rectangles with few windows and now they dont even try because everyone there has AC. they stopped paying attention to how windows were lined up and what direction you would have wind flow in the building.
The old designs with ventilation on the top, you get the opposite of those wind catchers, instead of air coming in the top and going out the bottom, you got air coming in the windows and leaving the top.
06-26-2021, 09:29 AM
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The worst thing about American houses is the size of them. You don't need a 3k sqft house. That's more flooring, more roof, more windows. The result? Cheap poor quality everything, vinyl siding, asphalt roof, OSB everywhere. If they built smaller they could do better. I think in reality the large houses are a result of the cheap materials
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It would only work in certain areas. Probably excellent in the NW Pacific states like Washington, Oregon, NCal, etc.
Biggest problem with that where I live (Southern US) is humidity is horrible. Even at night time. The air is just hot and wet in the summer time.
My house is insulated very effectively and has double pane windows. Even when its 100 degrees outside with high humidity the interior of my home only gets up to about 76-78 degrees.
Typically keep my AC set for 73 degrees when I'm away from the house 68 at night. It really doesn't blow that often. Power bill is about 60$ a month. I'd say houses in America have evolved for their climate.
Biggest problem with that where I live (Southern US) is humidity is horrible. Even at night time. The air is just hot and wet in the summer time.
My house is insulated very effectively and has double pane windows. Even when its 100 degrees outside with high humidity the interior of my home only gets up to about 76-78 degrees.
Typically keep my AC set for 73 degrees when I'm away from the house 68 at night. It really doesn't blow that often. Power bill is about 60$ a month. I'd say houses in America have evolved for their climate.
Originally Posted By jimberee⏩
People like space. And don't like cramped quarters with families. I rock a 1500 square foot 3 bed 2 bath house for myself. If my girlfriend were to move in full time things would be cramped. (Srs.) I'd have to build a 500 square foot man-cave in the back yard.The worst thing about American houses is the size of them. You don't need a 3k sqft house. That's more flooring, more roof, more windows. The result? Cheap poor quality everything, vinyl siding, asphalt roof, OSB everywhere. If they built smaller they could do better. I think in reality the large houses are a result of the cheap materials
06-26-2021, 09:36 AM
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06-26-2021, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Yep, because hot air rises. Shade the front of the house with trees/porch to keep the air cooler, then windows opened up high so the warmer air is pulled out which helps pull the cooler air in. Also help for the lower opening to be larger than the upper opening.you ever went on a tour of old houses in the south from like 1800s to early 1900s they were designed with features for ventilation and natural wind flow. obviously a cooling pool isnt going to work in a humid area.
it was the 1950s they started making houses that were just concrete/brick rectangles with few windows and now they dont even try because everyone there has AC. they stopped paying attention to how windows were lined up and what direction you would have wind flow in the building.
The old designs with ventilation on the top, you get the opposite of those wind catchers, instead of air coming in the top and going out the bottom, you got air coming in the windows and leaving the top.
it was the 1950s they started making houses that were just concrete/brick rectangles with few windows and now they dont even try because everyone there has AC. they stopped paying attention to how windows were lined up and what direction you would have wind flow in the building.
The old designs with ventilation on the top, you get the opposite of those wind catchers, instead of air coming in the top and going out the bottom, you got air coming in the windows and leaving the top.
Dog trots were fairly common also; kitchen in one building with covered space in between and then bedrooms in the attached building so that the heat of cooking wasn't built up in your sleeping space.
Here is an attractive modern version:
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06-26-2021, 10:01 AM
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No thanks I prefer my 5 ACs
Originally Posted By jimberee⏩
Sounds like cope for living in a closet lmaoThe worst thing about American houses is the size of them. You don't need a 3k sqft house. That's more flooring, more roof, more windows. The result? Cheap poor quality everything, vinyl siding, asphalt roof, OSB everywhere. If they built smaller they could do better. I think in reality the large houses are a result of the cheap materials
06-26-2021, 10:11 AM
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06-26-2021, 10:23 AM
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American kitchen are the worst. Why would anyone think it's a great idea to have an area of oil/greese OPEN to the rest of the house?
Brb, the whole house smells like a kitchen.
The rest of the world has DOORS to close out the kitchen.
Brb, the whole house smells like a kitchen.
The rest of the world has DOORS to close out the kitchen.
06-26-2021, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By jimberee⏩
Sounds like cope for being brokeAt least I can afford to reroof my closet when material prices go up
All my properties had roofs done within the last 5 years and my main house in NY had a metal roof put on
06-26-2021, 10:28 AM
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brb living in mud huts
Awesome pics. Great size. Look thick. Solid. Tight. Keep us all posted on your continued progress with any new progress pics or vid clips. Show us what you got man. Wanna see how freakin' huge, solid, thick and tight you can get. Thanks for the motivation.
06-26-2021, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted By CanardMedic⏩
If you're not a poverty ******* the kitchen is the best smelling area in the house. Learn to cook and fuk off with your doorsAmerican kitchen are the worst. Why would anyone think it's a great idea to have an area of oil/greese OPEN to the rest of the house?
Brb, the whole house smells like a kitchen.
The rest of the world has DOORS to close out the kitchen.
Brb, the whole house smells like a kitchen.
The rest of the world has DOORS to close out the kitchen.
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Originally Posted By ~Hades~⏩
Once again proving that too much time on Google and not enough time out of his parents basement doesn't truly pan out in real life experienceNot only is he a virologist and a nuclear physicist, he’s also an Hvac technician
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Originally Posted By CanardMedic⏩
Sounds awful, I've been to many countries and never seen a closed off kitchen. Sounds like a curry problemAmerican kitchen are the worst. Why would anyone think it's a great idea to have an area of oil/greese OPEN to the rest of the house?
Brb, the whole house smells like a kitchen.
The rest of the world has DOORS to close out the kitchen.
Brb, the whole house smells like a kitchen.
The rest of the world has DOORS to close out the kitchen.
Thanks for your input, you frauding fat slampig-Sirfapsalot '20
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06-26-2021, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
hot air rises or rather cold denser air displaces hot air, but people say that all the time dont understand that effect is with little circulation where it would matter most. when you have something like forced circulation with fans or with wind coming through, that is going to have so much a greater effect and you arent going to have a big temperature gradient if you have air moving around in the first place.Yep, because hot air rises. Shade the front of the house with trees/porch to keep the air cooler, then windows opened up high so the warmer air is pulled out which helps pull the cooler air in. Also help for the lower opening to be larger than the upper opening.
Dog trots were fairly common also; kitchen in one building with covered space in between and then bedrooms in the attached building so that the heat of cooking wasn't built up in your sleeping space.
Here is an attractive modern version:
Dog trots were fairly common also; kitchen in one building with covered space in between and then bedrooms in the attached building so that the heat of cooking wasn't built up in your sleeping space.
Here is an attractive modern version:
06-26-2021, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
This is true. Pressure gradients will direct the air flow ultimately.hot air rises or rather cold denser air displaces hot air, but people say that all the time dont understand that effect is with little circulation where it would matter most. when you have something like forced circulation with fans or with wind coming through, that is going to have so much a greater effect and you arent going to have a big temperature gradient if you have air moving around in the first place.
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