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post 1642752103 07-13-2021, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules
I think the vaccine is potentially dangerous to some and mostly useless

This seems a bit over the top though. I know lots of people who got vaxxed and only had minor to moderate problems
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post 1642752223 07-13-2021, 10:02 AM
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What's more interesting is they're pushing vaccines for people who already had the covid. Why?!
Trust me, I am a pharmacist.
post 1642752513 07-13-2021, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted By SUPERH0T
The spike protein antibodies will create a over response by the immune system the next time a virus rolls around.. the organs will have cytokine storms and fail, leading to mass death.




This isn't some skeptical conclusion. When they did animal testing on rona vaccines back in like 2009 that's what happened.
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Originally Posted By TexasTechPharmD
What's more interesting is they're pushing vaccines for people who already had the covid. Why?!
According the the George Guidstones we have to do something with 93% of the population in order for the earth to be sustainable with human life.
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Originally Posted By TexasTechPharmD
What's more interesting is they're pushing vaccines for people who already had the covid. Why?!
this is the biggest non sense of all, srs

Why do people who successfully recovered from Covid need an artificial vaccine?
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Originally Posted By Eatforgains
The spike protein antibodies will create a over response by the immune system the next time a virus rolls around.. the organs will have cytokine storms and fail, leading to mass death.




This isn't some skeptical conclusion. When they did animal testing on rona vaccines back in like 2009 that's what happened.
And that's how you kill a population offslowlywhere it's not as obvious.

Regarding why they'd do it to their "supporters," uh, have you not been paying attention to how they want to make it mandatory for everyone? And punish people (their words) for not complying?
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Isn't it kind of suspect that the Chinese went with a traditional dead virus vaccine and the U.S. is getting the mRNA vaccine?
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Does anyone have a source on how they overcame the issues plaguing mRNA vaccines in previous studies? In other words, why did they "work" this time?
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Originally Posted By THATSfunnyOP
Fukn lol. True or not, who knows really. But one thing for sure, im not vaxxed so i have to worry about it.
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I thought they never worked with spike proteins and these V's were miracles of science created over a weekend?

Well, according to patent 6372224, work has been done for over 20 years.
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Originally Posted By chaunce54
Derp, that's because you're a blind sheep...
At no point did you provide evidence.
post 1642757503 07-13-2021, 11:12 AM
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hopefully it's just some individuals who face adverse reaction as I know too many people who have taken it unfortunately
post 1642757703 07-13-2021, 11:14 AM
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post 1642757733 07-13-2021, 11:15 AM
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I haven't gotten the vaccine and refuse because i'm a young healthy adult, and 2 very young healthy adults close to me caught covid, were on bed rest for 5 days then bounced back. CDC first said masks were useless then were telling us to wear 2 at a time. They then say you have to wear a mask on planes and in public if you got the vaccine because even if you're vaccinated you can still spread the virus. It's all throwing schit at the wall to see what sticks. No rhyme or reason and i'm not buying it.


THAT SAID, I don't believe this claim has killed 50,000 people so far. I know dozens of people who have gotten it, young, old, skinny, morbidly obese, etc and they're all still alive. If the vaccines are killing people its too damn random to know the cause, and thus, likely too random to determine the vaccine was the cause.
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post 1642758243 07-13-2021, 11:22 AM
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i like how half the misc doesn't believe in the thousands of scientists and and doctors who are for the vaccine, yet one comes along and claims 50k dead with ZERO evidence and believes.

show the evidence...then we will judge for ourselves.
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Originally Posted By W1LLW
I haven't gotten the vaccine and refuse because i'm a young healthy adult, and 2 very young healthy adults close to me caught covid, were on bed rest for 5 days then bounced back. CDC first said masks were useless then were telling us to wear 2 at a time. They then say you have to wear a mask on planes and in public if you got the vaccine because even if you're vaccinated you can still spread the virus. It's all throwing schit at the wall to see what sticks. No rhyme or reason and i'm not buying it.


THAT SAID, I don't believe this claim has killed 50,000 people so far. I know dozens of people who have gotten it, young, old, skinny, morbidly obese, etc and they're all still alive. If the vaccines are killing people its too damn random to know the cause, and thus, likely too random to determine the vaccine was the cause.
Why do people who successfully recovered from Covid need an artificial vaccine?
post 1642758943 07-13-2021, 11:31 AM
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Imagine not trusting your own immune system and having to take an untested jab (which has already been causing heart issues, death and neurological issues) for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate... ****ing Clown Planet filled with braindead liberal ****s.
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post 1642759193 07-13-2021, 11:34 AM
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"Dr. McCullough is a consultant cardiologist and Vice Chief of Medicine at Baylor University Medical Center in Dallas, TX. He is a Principal Faculty in internal medicine for the Texas A & M University Health Sciences Center. Dr. McCullough is an internationally recognized authority on the role of chronic kidney disease as a cardiovascular risk state with > 1000 publications and > 500 citations in the National Library of Medicine."

Seems like someone very qualified to speak on the subject, someone that just can't be dismissed as a crazy CT. Surely, other scientists will have to contend with his views. What is his motivation to send an anti-vax message?

Trust the science they said (actually meant, trust the scientists since the general pop don't understand the science). So how can the media still treat this as a censored crazy talk, when you have legitimate scientists speaking out against it?
post 1642759243 07-13-2021, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By HarryfromCali
Imagine not trusting your own immune system and having to take an untested jab (which has already been causing heart issues, death and neurological issues) for a virus with a 99.7% survival rate... ****ing Clown Planet filled with braindead liberal ****s.
how, exactly, do you trust your own immune system? do you talk to it? take it out on dates? have a contract in place with it? lmao.

do you wear a bag when you bang randoms? do you wash your hands after taking a chit? do you brush your teeth? these types of threads bring out all the crazy.
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Originally Posted By Beast92
Why do people who successfully recovered from Covid need an artificial vaccine?
They fuking dont but 4 tHe sAfeTy of OtheRZz

1 of them that caught it works in the medical field so i understand that. The other one was my ex girlfriend who i was actively fuking during the time she caught it. I waited 2 months after, went and got an antibody test and it came back negative. That's when I knew all of this was a fuking joke. Covid is real, but the mask schit is peak clown world.
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I don't know that I buy into the bio-weapon part.

I do know that there isn't enough information available to prove long-term effects.

I know that when they are bribing, threatening, coercing people into taking it, millions spent in media propaganda, sending people door-to-door, these things should sound off alarm bells in peoples minds.

I know, historically, those that censor information, that threaten careers of those speaking against it, belittling/demeaning/de-humanizing those that question something are doing so not in the best interests of people.

I know when groups start changing definitions (vaccine, herd-immunity), question their motives for doing so.

I believe COVID is a threat to some people. And for those people, taking an Emergency Use Authorized therapy may be in their best interests. For the rest, young people, people that have had COVID, healthy/fit people, there is absolutely no valid reason to rush.
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Granted, I've given more than 300 covid shots so far. I haven't had any of my patients die on me. I had one patient with some allergic reaction on the injection site but that was it. I believe in vaccines and I think we've made tremendous progress in immunology and vaccination but this covid vaccine is different. No vaccine has been developed and distributed this fast and this wide. No vaccine has been pushed this hard including the flu vaccines even though the influenza kills up to 100,000 people per year in US depends on which stats you look at. Heart disease, cancer and auto accidents kill way more than the covid but none of those have been pushed so hard for prevention. When was the last time you heard the president said, "We'll go to door to door to make sure people are taking their statins, metformins or beta blockers"?
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Originally Posted By menseks
i like how half the misc doesn't believe in the thousands of scientists and and doctors who are for the vaccine, yet one comes along and claims 50k dead with ZERO evidence and believes.

show the evidence...then we will judge for ourselves.
das it mane

let's see the evidence
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I simply don't trust it as they are pushing it WAY to hard, I have never seen such a big push for anything from every slimey politician and media outlet ever. Now they wanting to make it madatory in certain places, no way is something weird not going on here.

If they had said take it if you need it etc etc maybe wait until we have fully tested it etc instead of gaslighting people and shaming people I would have trusted it.

Best case scenario is this is all over making massive amounts of money in pharma and they all in on it, worst case the satanic new world order conspiracy theories are real lol
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
Still looking for someone to address this. I havent been vaccinated but I think in order to believe stuff like this, we have to be strict on what we deem trustworthy since us anti vax are placed in the conspiracy theorist bucket.
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interesting website op, do you trust it?
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
interesting website op, do you trust it?
http://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/ca...all-about-jews
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could be because they were told it was a safe place.
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Originally Posted By JoshSP1985
Does anyone have a source on how they overcame the issues plaguing mRNA vaccines in previous studies? In other words, why did they "work" this time?
Why do you think they're not FDA approved?
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Originally Posted By menseks
i like how half the misc doesn't believe in the thousands of scientists and and doctors who are for the vaccine, yet one comes along and claims 50k dead with ZERO evidence and believes.

show the evidence...then we will judge for ourselves.
It's not that I don't believe the pro-vax nor the anti-vax. But when you have 2 legitimate scientists arguing about the science, it's open for debate. Except in this case, what's up for debate is not some theory on physics or some multi-verse theory, it's potentially life or death, sterile or babies - wtf wouldn't I want to hear out both argue their case openly against each other? Now imagine, one side silences the other via censorship.

It's like Musk rolling out the first automated driving taxi, you can hail this from outside. Some very prominent engineers say this will crash in some instances and it's a big risk. Musk and other engineers say it's safe. Musk and team then censor the other side.

Would you get on that taxi?
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