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post 1644030023 07-31-2021, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
If the delta variant predates the vaccine, doesn't that mean it originated due to the unvaccinated (which was everyone at that point)? Just trying to understand, not saying you're wrong.
The rhetoric is that our current situation is because of people refusing the vaccine. There is no evidence that the unvaccinated have created some super strain that is now the cause of this resurgence. That’s the narrative being shoved down our throats: not getting vaxxed caused this. It’s plain propaganda and I’ve seen it casually mentioned in multiple places from people who don’t know anything, and even people who should know better but aren’t bothering to use the brain power to question the narrative as they have high openness/agreeableness as personality traits.

If a novel strain arises in the unvaccinated solely, spreads to the vaccinated, and is proven to be because of them, then the statement is correct. In the meantime it’s blaming vaccine hesitancy for a strain that predates the vaccine, and low-information hypotheses of what could potentially happen.

Delta has proven an equivalent viral load can exist even in the vaccinated, those viral loads will mutate the same way they would in the nose of the unvaccinated. A strain specifically overcoming the vaccine would logically be more likely to arise in that scenario as the organism contends with an immune system primed a certain way and the surviving mutagens spread to other folk confident of their immunity through the vaccine.

Why do you think the CDC is recommending masking for the vaccinated? If the severity of symptoms are muted then you have a lot of asymptomatic carriers running around virtue signaling about doing their part. We know masks are generally ineffective outside of reducing initial viral load, and during lockdowns people still spread it widely as human contact is necessary. Pushing the vaccine is just the governments refusing to admit they are relatively helpless at fully stopping Covid, so they like to use noncompliance to their demands as a scapegoat.
post 1644030653 07-31-2021, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
^^So essentially, what you're saying is that there's no way to pinpoint where the delta strain came from, and the government is being disingenuous by claiming that it is due to the unvaccinated (even though that is a possibility)?

It will be interesting to see what happens after this fall, when both the IV administered antivirals as well as pill form antivirals become available for public usage. If those can stop symptoms from becoming worse, one would think that would be enough to end the pandemic.
We know where it came from. India around December 2020 then spread probably from the U.K. to here. It is only due to the unvaccinated because the vaccine wasn’t available publicly yet. I think that’s around the time I was told as a frontline worker I could get it in January.

The idea that current vaccine hesitant people are to blame for this is absurd. Maybe to the extent that they may have continued to propagate it maybe 30-50% more than the vaxxed, but many vaxxed people confidently congregated on a large scale thinking they were immune while still sub-symptomatically carrying the variant. I can accept the unvaccinated may be more culpable but this virtue signaling that it’s all the unvaccinated is patently absurd. Blame international travelers coming here if you want—-I doubt many vaccine hesitant US people were flying to India and Europe and brought it back.

Hopefully the antiviral pills and other treatments do prove effective, but places like Australia and LA have made it clear they want to signal their ineffective hygiene theater for a wave not nearly as devastating as their disproportionate response. Some countries will go full totalitarian even if the fatalities and severe symptoms are reduced through more effective medical interventions. Can’t have more than a few cases even if the casualties are minimal, better to socially and economically cripple your country than admit to the world some of your citizens have a viral infection.
post 1644030813 07-31-2021, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted By SmashinYoungVag
I’ll take the vaccine if they draw it from the same exact vial as bill gates and do so in front of me
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post 1644031353 07-31-2021, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
If the delta variant predates the vaccine, doesn't that mean it originated due to the unvaccinated (which was everyone at that point)? Just trying to understand, not saying you're wrong.
It will mutate again and again, and again just as Influenza & many others have for 5,000+ years

Told you that before




Vaccines aren't a problem; vaccines created in 6 months without the average 11-13 year testing period.. are

Covid is not going anywhere, we will be getting annual jabs for it from here on out

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post 1644031643 08-01-2021, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted By isawthesign
Because you are creating a variant... that's putting people at danger and forcing everyone to lockdown in the first place... which you don't even care about or respect because you won't lock down in the first place lol.

You take vaccines for measles, dumps, polio, every other disease and virus known to man at both. But you don't want the COVID vaccine? Plus, people have telling me that the COVID virus is basically a glorified version of the flu, which was very very very low death rate. But suddenly, they are scared ****less of a vaccine for a virus they already claim isn't that dangerous? Make up y'all minds.
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post 1644032063 08-01-2021, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
Meh, if the antivirals coming out later this year are successful that should make the disease a lot less deadly. The Remdesivir that they're using now isn't that effective from what I've heard, despite it being FDA approved and used for COVID
We're not treating it with Remdesivir unless the case is severe


You're putting way, way too much thought into Covid; if you had Influenza you would take Tylenol & eat chicken noodle soup on the couch watching TV and not think twice about it even though it's just as dangerous as Covid

I just discharged a 93 year old woman who weighed 97lbs with a history of Emphysema/Chronic Bronchitis(COPD) causing Dyspnea after she spent 5 days inpatient

She's fine and you will be too son
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post 1644032083 08-01-2021, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
Meh, if the antivirals coming out later this year are successful that should make the disease a lot less deadly. The Remdesivir that they're using now isn't that effective from what I've heard, despite it being FDA approved and used for COVID
What antivirals?
post 1644034573 08-01-2021, 03:07 AM
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He's a leftie conspiracy theory nutjob. Man lands on moon.
post 1644034743 08-01-2021, 03:13 AM
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If I have kids I'm not injecting ANY vaccine into their body. Their vaccine will be vitamin C, vitamin D, and zinc. My Body My Choice.
post 1644034763 08-01-2021, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted By mesobuild
What antivirals?
Pfizer has created antivirals to go along with the vax. Yes you read that right.
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post 1644035873 08-01-2021, 04:18 AM
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If you wanna vote, you need to show vax ID. I wonder if he agrees to that...
post 1644036153 08-01-2021, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Autumnal
You cannot force an emergency use medicine on the entire population. End of story, *******.
I agree with you, but I don’t think we should put all of our eggs in the “emergency use” basket.

With the level of corruption and obvious capture of most of our institutions, we should expect that this will be approved by the FDA in the near future. That’ll knock the legs out from underneath that argument.
post 1644036183 08-01-2021, 04:46 AM
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Don Lemon is a man who seriously proposed the idea that a small black hole caused that Malaysian airplane to vanish...The man is an idiot.
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post 1644036263 08-01-2021, 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted By isawthesign
Because you are creating a variant... that's putting people at danger and forcing everyone to lockdown in the first place... which you don't even care about or respect because you won't lock down in the first place lol.

You take vaccines for measles, dumps, polio, every other disease and virus known to man at both. But you don't want the COVID vaccine? Plus, people have telling me that the COVID virus is basically a glorified version of the flu, which was very very very low death rate. But suddenly, they are scared ****less of a vaccine for a virus they already claim isn't that dangerous? Make up y'all minds.
The variant was going to happen regardless, that is what viruses do, they mutate into more contagious but less lethal variants for self preservation...Ever notice how all you have been hearing about is cases and transmissibility? Never lethality because it's even less lethal than the wild type virus which for 98% of the population was 95-99% survival rate so it's even less lethal now. Also if you think lockdowns did anything good you couldn't be more wrong...They don't stop anything, they cause more harm than good and kill more people than save.. people who were scared into submission to not seek out medical treatment for other things, cancer patients not going to chemo etc.
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post 1644036403 08-01-2021, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted By LargePeter
LMFAO at Dr Abid Aziz

That would mean about half have had their shots. And they got sick. With the virus the shot is meant to reduce the severity of the symptoms for, as opposed to help eliminate the virus altogether from their bodies like a normal vaccine does
Yeah, sadly you really do have to wonder how many people are too stupid to pick up on that (or will just ignore, because it's inconvenient to the narrative).
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Don Lemon touts a non-FDA approved, disapproved in the 60's due to extreme side effects experimental vaccine being forced into peoples body because of health reasons?

I deal with nasty people day in - day out and my family is fine. My friends are fine. I'm unvaccinated. I guess I should play the lottery then since the talking TV heads would have you believe people like me, in major cities, are causing grandma's to die?

Don is just brain damaged from his daily overdose from liberal sperm chugging. Give the poor reverse Uncle Tom a break.
post 1644041673 08-01-2021, 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted By goingcia
I dont get the logic behind punishing people for not vaccinating. If you have a vaccine, I cant give you covid so what do you care? The rest want to take the risk. Whats the reasoning here?
Because it doesn't work and they are embarrassed, but if you take it too they get validation.
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Originally Posted By isawthesign
Because you are creating a variant... that's putting people at danger and forcing everyone to lockdown in the first place... which you don't even care about or respect because you won't lock down in the first place lol.

You take vaccines for measles, dumps, polio, every other disease and virus known to man at both. But you don't want the COVID vaccine? Plus, people have telling me that the COVID virus is basically a glorified version of the flu, which was very very very low death rate. But suddenly, they are scared ****less of a vaccine for a virus they already claim isn't that dangerous? Make up y'all minds.
Lots of people have strokes, everyone should start taking blood thinning medication.

Lots of people have heart attacks, everyone should be taking cholesterol-lowering drugs.
Would kick em in the nuts
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Originally Posted By isawthesign
Because you are creating a variant... that's putting people at danger and forcing everyone to lockdown in the first place... which you don't even care about or respect because you won't lock down in the first place lol.

You take vaccines for measles, dumps, polio, every other disease and virus known to man at both. But you don't want the COVID vaccine? Plus, people have telling me that the COVID virus is basically a glorified version of the flu, which was very very very low death rate. But suddenly, they are scared ****less of a vaccine for a virus they already claim isn't that dangerous? Make up y'all minds.
You mean the Delta variant which is less deadly then the flu? variants are never as deadly as the original virus. stfu
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Originally Posted By swoleyo
You mean the Delta variant which is less deadly then the flu? variants are never as deadly as the original virus. stfu
Should be thanking unvaxed people if they really did cause the Delta variant because it's so much less deadly.
Would kick em in the nuts
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Originally Posted By isawthesign
Because you are creating a variant... that's putting people at danger and forcing everyone to lockdown in the first place... which you don't even care about or respect because you won't lock down in the first place lol.

You take vaccines for measles, dumps, polio, every other disease and virus known to man at both. But you don't want the COVID vaccine? Plus, people have telling me that the COVID virus is basically a glorified version of the flu, which was very very very low death rate. But suddenly, they are scared ****less of a vaccine for a virus they already claim isn't that dangerous? Make up y'all minds.
Probably the most cringiest/embarrassing thing i've read on the misc in a long time. Fuk me, people really are dumb, it's scary.
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Don Lemon should be the next piece of **** to be struck by that racist lightning.
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lol, I don't really GAF about anything Don Lemon has to say about anything.
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Instead of shaming people who aren't vaxxed, why aren't we shaming the obese....

Obesity is the #1 comorbidity among C19 hospitalizations.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Instead of shaming people who aren't vaxxed, why aren't we shaming the obese....

Obesity is the #1 comorbidity among C19 hospitalizations.
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These idiot leftists who claim to follow "science" but think that your mood can change chromosomes from XY to XX are sure making it easy to claim a religious exemption from this.

Making it sounds like the Mark of the beast more and more everyday... Revelation 13:17, KJV: "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."
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Retarded logic saying people put worse things in their bodies all the time by the guy who’s been hammered on national TV several times

I don’t do drugs. I haven’t had a drink of alcohol in about 5 years. I don’t even eat processed foods, vegetable oil or added sugars. Go suck a dick Don
Originally Posted By goingcia
I dont get the logic behind punishing people for not vaccinating. If you have a vaccine, I cant give you covid so what do you care? The rest want to take the risk. Whats the reasoning here?
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