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Originally Posted By HRBuffnStuff
Sick and tired of seeing threads about whose idea it was to pull out of Afghanistan first and who’s the better president. Afghanistan is sitting on the largest lithium deposits. China had been meeting with Taliban leaders weeks leading up to this mess. While America continues to push fear porn and make us panic about global warming, China setting up shop to be the largest provider of lithium. America probably armed afgans regardless of their terrorist backgrounds in the hopes they will fight back against China if they try to come in and take advantage of their assets.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/t...ng-167590.html
Shhiii we are still fighting over Covid crap while China forgot about it like six months after their "outbreaks'. Disinformation funded by China. America is doomed.
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Originally Posted By 20Mavs11
Shhiii we are still fighting over Covid crap while China forgot about it like six months after their "outbreaks'. Disinformation funded by China. America is doomed.
With social media tensions being stoked by Chinese and Russian bots.


Twitter, TikTok, Reddit, etc



Using our free speech platforms and democratic system against us. China is playing chess and has been for quite some time
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Originally Posted By Dogkrack
you literally shifted the blame from the kid rapist to china. i get that this is prob your test kitchen for your propaganda efforts. but just fukin lol at trying to blame the ****show on chyna. come on man. ps maybe you guys should prep for the"kamala didnt get even1% in dem primary". talk about an illigitimate govt
Adults are talking in this thread. I know it’s hard for you but some people analyze a situation from a big picture prospective as opposed to reeeing like you’re doing. You are the same person you hate. Sleep on that
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1. Let China dig up all the lithium
2. Purchase lithium products from China for far less than the cost of dealing with occupying afghanistan
3. Profit?
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Originally Posted By HRBuffnStuff
Learn Chinese
The only Chinese you need to know is yes/no master.

Slaves will not be able to read, write, and paint. All your days will be spent paying for your father's sins.

Spoiler!
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Originally Posted By HRBuffnStuff
Adults are talking in this thread. I know it’s hard for you but some people analyze a situation from a big picture prospective as opposed to reeeing like you’re doing. You are the same person you hate. Sleep on that
omg are we "adulting" here. lets go to the barcade and drink some IPAs


joe the rapist is 100% responsible for thos **** show. you cannot deflect from it. just wait till the taliban start beheading people. just fukin lol at dems chances in 2022. in short FUK YOU SHILL
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Originally Posted By Dogkrack
omg are we "adulting" here. lets go to the barcade and drink some IPAs


joe the rapist is 100% responsible for thos **** show. you cannot deflect from it. just wait till the taliban start beheading people. just fukin lol at dems chances in 2022. in short FUK YOU SHILL
When you think about it, Joe is responsible, but so is Trump, Obama and Bush. What is the common denominator here?

Also, China and Russia has agents influencing this, just like how US and the rest of the western world has agents influencing China, especially in HK. The difference is that if the biggest cultural superpower in the world can be influenced by non-English speaking countries, something must have gone extremely wrong.

The system.

Democracy IS a good system, fuk living in a totalarian state.

So you go on and ask yourself these simple 2 questions:

1) Is US a democracy or an oligarchy?
2) What is wrong with the system?

The 2-party state is causing a lot of issues. Something as simple as converting to preferential voting will kill off a lot of corruption and showmanship.
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A lot of seemingly knowledgeable posts itt (I mean that sincerely I haven’t fact checked anything but bruhs seem to have a good understanding of the situation)

The only counter I have to this is that countries may start to push back against China when they realize how F’ed they are.

That will be their “unintended consequences”

Maybe they are expanding too fast?

Just spitballing… I have no idea
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Originally Posted By KBurn
Difference is that China will not spend trillions and countless lives of soldiers, and local citizens just to buy something they can get for peanuts.

What will happen is that they'll build a road to expand their belt and road stratagem, further isolating india.
Then, they'll offer to build a mine, which the Taliban will own the land of, and receive royalties.
Then, they'll debt trap them by building airports, bridges, roads, schools and mosques
The Taliban will default on the massive loans (extremely cheap by China standards), which China will extremely generously forgive in exchange for a few mines, worth a fraction of the debt. The local Taliban leaders will also have generous compensation packages on the boards of these companies. Wins all round.
The whole thing will earn China trillions, instead of costing trillions. Plus they can export Chinese men all over to take local brides, easing job and marriage shortages in China.

Every single strategic achievement complete for China. Gets their resources without the liability of an unstable populace. Isolate india. Expand their belt and road network. Instead of costing them trillions, its bringing in trillions of revenue, and actually subsidising the Chinese economy. A great moral victory too - to the Chinese, they're going to the barbarian lands to improve their lives, they built stuff for them, and forgave them when they couldn't pay, and no matter what you say about debt trap, its a trillion times better than what the west did to Africa and Afghanistan. Plus, they don't get any guilt, loss of political power, or morality issues with this. Its a royal flush for them.

Meanwhile, the west all condemns the Taliban, refuses to acknowledge their sovereignty, doesn't do business with them, and pushes them into China's welcoming arms. We all know what happens when you're a small time supplier, and your only buyer is massive and powerful. Brain the size of a pea.
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Originally Posted By KBurn
When you think about it, Joe is responsible, but so is Trump, Obama and Bush.What is the common denominator here?

Also, China and Russia has agents influencing this, just like how US and the rest of the western world has agents influencing China, especially in HK. The difference is that if the biggest cultural superpower in the world can be influenced by non-English speaking countries, something must have gone extremely wrong.

The system.

Democracy IS a good system, fuk living in a totalarian state.

So you go on and ask yourself these simple 2 questions:

1) Is US a democracy or an oligarchy?
2) What is wrong with the system?

The 2-party state is causing a lot of issues. Something as simple as converting to preferential voting will kill off a lot of corruption and showmanship.
ooh ooh I know the answer!
























































































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Originally Posted By Coach
A lot of seemingly knowledgeable posts itt (I mean that sincerely I haven’t fact checked anything but bruhs seem to have a good understanding of the situation)

The only counter I have to this is that countries may start to push back against China when they realize how F’ed they are.

That will be their “unintended consequences”

Maybe they are expanding too fast?

Just spitballing… I have no idea
If you look at it from a non-western lens, the Chinese age is actually a god-sent age of peace and prosperity for them.

If you think about it, China hasn't invaded anyone other than Vietnam, colonised anywhere, enslaved anyone, started any wars or done anything other than increase trade routes and counter American ambition. The western powers have done exponentially worse.

The worse they've done is Vietnam, which extremely few people are aware about. They're starting off as a super power with an entirely clean slate and the moral high ground. The west has a massive amount of baggage. Western media loves to talk about debt trap, but African media is talking about how great China is for forgiving most of their debts (in exchange for a few mines) As far as they're concerned, they're trading a mine for a few schools, a few hospital, some roads, and trade. Quid quo peo, completely fair.

US can't go around destabilising countries anymore due to the need to think of China. Afghanistan is a great lesson in what happens when you destabilise too much, and your biggest rival swoops in and takes everything.

Afghanistan isn't an expansion either, just another place to build their essential road network. They don't need the land, don't need the people, heck, they don't even need the mines when it comes to that, its just a nice added cherry on top of the cake.

What people don't understand about China is that they don't want to rule the world. They just want the world to revolve around them, like it has for 3600 years.

China bad is just western propaganda. If you look deeper, most non western countries are seeing it as a good thing, and actually long for it,
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Originally Posted By KBurn
If you look at it from a non-western lens, the Chinese age is actually a god-sent age of peace and prosperity for them.

If you think about it, China hasn't invaded anyone other than Vietnam, colonised anywhere, enslaved anyone, started any wars or done anything other than increase trade routes and counter American ambition. The western powers have done exponentially worse.

The worse they've done is Vietnam, which extremely few people are aware about. They're starting off as a super power with an entirely clean slate and the moral high ground. The west has a massive amount of baggage. Western media loves to talk about debt trap, but African media is talking about how great China is for forgiving most of their debts (in exchange for a few mines) As far as they're concerned, they're trading a mine for a few schools, a few hospital, some roads, and trade. Quid quo peo, completely fair.

US can't go around destabilising countries anymore due to the need to think of China. Afghanistan is a great lesson in what happens when you destabilise too much, and your biggest rival swoops in and takes everything.

Afghanistan isn't an expansion either, just another place to build their essential road network. They don't need the land, don't need the people, heck, they don't even need the mines when it comes to that, its just a nice added cherry on top of the cake.

What people don't understand about China is that they don't want to rule the world. They just want the world to revolve around them, like it has for 3600 years.

China bad is just western propaganda. If you look deeper, most non western countries are seeing it as a good thing, and actually long for it,
Slavery was big for china back in the day. Ghengis Khan was enslaved by chinese slavers. They have a pretty booming sex slave trade buying/selling north korean women, too.

When it comes down to it, every country has it's flaws. More and more I ask 'What is truly the best place to live?' and the answer depends on the person asking the question.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
Slavery was big for china back in the day. Ghengis Khan was enslaved by chinese slavers. They have a pretty booming sex slave trade buying/selling north korean women, too.

When it comes down to it, every country has it's flaws. More and more I ask 'What is truly the best place to live?' and the answer depends on the person asking the question.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
Slavery was big for china back in the day. Ghengis Khan was enslaved by chinese slavers. They have a pretty booming sex slave trade buying/selling north korean women, too.

When it comes down to it, every country has it's flaws. More and more I ask 'What is truly the best place to live?' and the answer depends on the person asking the question.
Bro, Genghis Khan wasn't enslaved by anyone at all, where did you pull that from. That is pure fantasy.

The NK one is the same illegal chit you find anywhere in the world. Keyword - illegal.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
Slavery was big for china back in the day. Ghengis Khan was enslaved by chinese slavers. They have a pretty booming sex slave trade buying/selling north korean women, too.

When it comes down to it, every country has it's flaws. More and more I ask 'What is truly the best place to live?' and the answer depends on the person asking the question.
Yea yea yea.

Absolutely no proof at all. Just pulling it out of your ass. Everything and anything that comes from a whitecels mouth that pertains to East Asia is pure cope.
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The US was letting China do what they wanted in Afghanistan before we left. Not much is going to change in that regard after we're gone.
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Originally Posted By KBurn
Bro, Genghis Khan wasn't enslaved by anyone at all, where did you pull that from. That is pure fantasy.

The NK one is the same illegal chit you find anywhere in the world. Keyword - illegal.
It's normally illegal but they seem to turn a blind eye to it according to Yeonmi Park.

I can't remember the history book that covered him being captured as a slave - it's a murky history but here's one reference:

https://www.history.com/news/10-thin...t-genghis-khan

And another:

https://historyly.com/interesting-genghis-khan-facts/

And another:

https://www.thoughtco.com/genghis-khan-195669
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Originally Posted By tunafishha
Yea yea yea.

Absolutely no proof at all. Just pulling it out of your ass. Everything and anything that comes from a whitecels mouth that pertains to East Asia is pure cope.
He did you guys a favor - you'd be WAY too overcrowded now if it wasn't for him
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Originally Posted By JeepBruh
Would you mind explaining? I only saw name calling, followed by an accusation of limited intelligence, but not an actual argument.

Do you not think this pull out was bad? Do you not have any problems with how it was handled? I ask these questions because, again, I didn't see an actual argument.
Lol. At first I thought you were just a liberal cuck, but now I see you're even worse; right leaning retard, giving republicans/right leaning people a bad name.

You're an idiot to think that any exit strategy out of Afgo would be "good". Was this perfect? No. Does it matter? Fuk it. The place is a hell-hole, people don't want change, lives, money, time are wasted away there.

This is the equivalent of pulling off the band-aid in one go, instead of being a pussy and being a gentle cuck.
Originally Posted By Dogkrack
you literally shifted the blame from the kid rapist to china. i get that this is prob your test kitchen for your propaganda efforts. but just fukin lol at trying to blame the ****show on chyna. come on man. ps maybe you guys should prep for the"kamala didnt get even1% in dem primary". talk about an illigitimate govt
Originally Posted By Dogkrack
omg are we "adulting" here. lets go to the barcade and drink some IPAs


joe the rapist is 100% responsible for thos **** show. you cannot deflect from it. just wait till the taliban start beheading people. just fukin lol at dems chances in 2022. in short FUK YOU SHILL
Lol, and I see you just came in here to bash sleepy joe. Idiots like you are the reason any right leaning person gets a bad wrap.
You're as bad as the liberal cucks, bitching and complaining, looking for any chance to point the finger at the other guys. This is no different to when the liberal cucks would blame Trump for everything, and look for any opportunity to throw him under the bus.
Same cuck, different side of the fence, that's all
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Lol. Aren't you an Aussie?

Either you're ignorant as fuk, or you're Chinese.

With the ass raping that China has committed in Australia, with how quickly your politicians were tripping over each other to sell Australia off to the Chinese, I'm surprised you Aussie cucks haven't wised up to what's happening.


Brb some Chinese business man gets caught funneling money to a number of Aussie politicians
Brb Aussie politicians piece off anything not bolted down for a quick buck
Brb more reports of this happening all across the country, in key sectors, in housing markets, energy, etc. etc.
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Originally Posted By KBurn
If you look at it from a non-western lens, the Chinese age is actually a god-sent age of peace and prosperity for them.

If you think about it, China hasn't invaded anyone other than Vietnam, colonised anywhere, enslaved anyone, started any wars or done anything other than increase trade routes and counter American ambition. The western powers have done exponentially worse.

The worse they've done is Vietnam, which extremely few people are aware about. They're starting off as a super power with an entirely clean slate and the moral high ground. The west has a massive amount of baggage. Western media loves to talk about debt trap, but African media is talking about how great China is for forgiving most of their debts (in exchange for a few mines) As far as they're concerned, they're trading a mine for a few schools, a few hospital, some roads, and trade. Quid quo peo, completely fair.

US can't go around destabilising countries anymore due to the need to think of China. Afghanistan is a great lesson in what happens when you destabilise too much, and your biggest rival swoops in and takes everything.

Afghanistan isn't an expansion either, just another place to build their essential road network. They don't need the land, don't need the people, heck, they don't even need the mines when it comes to that, its just a nice added cherry on top of the cake.

What people don't understand about China is that they don't want to rule the world. They just want the world to revolve around them, like it has for 3600 years.

China bad is just western propaganda. If you look deeper, most non western countries are seeing it as a good thing, and actually long for it,
China bad is propaganda? China doesn't want to remain in China - China wants its CCP tyrannical way of life spread throughout the world - in essence making everyone Chinese in work / life culture. Is that why once Trump started to internalize manufacture, oil independence, a booming jobs economy and an American first policy your aging and about to fail in the next 2 decades to western ideology leadership released it's bioweapon (admitandly funded by corrupted US persons) and is taxing its external leader extortion campaign on select bought and paid for leadership?

Let's face it shill - this worldwide effort is a last ditch soon-to-be failed attempt at ushering in what your CCP wanted half a century ago - which its dying leadership wanted to hurry and see realized before their doom. You will never see Taiwan swallowed. The Sea of Japan / Korea will never have / China next to it. The future is not tyranny. Go paint something with lead, steal some ideas from people who can critically think, foment some sort of guised new age social credit score, and or harvest honey for the hive - nobody wants a drone like stagnant future like you are told to think you want.

In b4 "I hate tyranny, i'm one of you actually" blablabla rhetoric. Nobody will believe that shill. Use your appeal to intelligence somewhere else, like on your own people.
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Hence why I believe America left the Taliban with our aircraft and weapons. Providing them the tools needed if China went from peaceful to aggressive as soon as we left
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Didnt read, lets nuke china tho
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Originally Posted By KBurn
Difference is that China will not spend trillions and countless lives of soldiers, and local citizens just to buy something they can get for peanuts.

What will happen is that they'll build a road to expand their belt and road stratagem, further isolating india.
Then, they'll offer to build a mine, which the Taliban will own the land of, and receive royalties.
Then, they'll debt trap them by building airports, bridges, roads, schools and mosques
The Taliban will default on the massive loans (extremely cheap by China standards), which China will extremely generously forgive in exchange for a few mines, worth a fraction of the debt. The local Taliban leaders will also have generous compensation packages on the boards of these companies. Wins all round.
The whole thing will earn China trillions, instead of costing trillions. Plus they can export Chinese men all over to take local brides, easing job and marriage shortages in China.

Every single strategic achievement complete for China. Gets their resources without the liability of an unstable populace. Isolate india. Expand their belt and road network. Instead of costing them trillions, its bringing in trillions of revenue, and actually subsidising the Chinese economy. A great moral victory too - to the Chinese, they're going to the barbarian lands to improve their lives, they built stuff for them, and forgave them when they couldn't pay, and no matter what you say about debt trap, its a trillion times better than what the west did to Africa and Afghanistan. Plus, they don't get any guilt, loss of political power, or morality issues with this. Its a royal flush for them.

Meanwhile, the west all condemns the Taliban, refuses to acknowledge their sovereignty, doesn't do business with them, and pushes them into China's welcoming arms. We all know what happens when you're a small time supplier, and your only buyer is massive and powerful. Brain the size of a pea.
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