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post 1645590703 08-23-2021, 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Just curious what was the discussion about?

Just based on your username have you considered being a hitman? Don't usually need to work with many people often, typically 1-2 at a time, not a lot of speaking.
OP had the talent to become a great fighter! But instead of that, he became a leg breaker for some cheap, second rate loan shark! It's a waste of life!
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You can run your whole life but eventually you'll catch up to yourself

Why take a short cut when on the way to a grave
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How old are you? What is your education level? What political situation is contributing to your depression and anxiety? Why are you not taking medication that a psychiatrist prescribed?
Age - 24

Education - High school diploma

The political situation that is contributing to my depression and anxiety is the anti-white media, woke bs ruining entertainment, the flooding of white countries with refugees with the intention of permanently disenfranchising whites and reducing us to minorities in our own countries. Also the leftist authoritarianism running rampant, especially during this pandemic which is severely limiting liberty and privacy. Really everything the Left is doing right now I pretty much hate. I wish I could enter a time a machine and live my prime years in better times.

I won’t take the medication because I don’t feel like I have any mental illness that needs it. I feel like my problems could be solved on my own, I’m not mentally ill I just deal with anxiety and depression which is fairly normal. I know I can fix it myself.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Just curious what was the discussion about?

Just based on your username have you considered being a hitman? Don't usually need to work with many people often, typically 1-2 at a time, not a lot of speaking.
You think being a hitman is a match for someone with social anxiety?

You trying to get OP killed?
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post 1645590883 08-23-2021, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
Age - 24

Education - High school diploma

The political situation that is contributing to my depression and anxiety is the anti-white media, woke bs ruining entertainment, the flooding of white countries with refugees with the intention of permanently disenfranchising whites and reducing us to minorities in our own countries. Also the leftist authoritarianism running rampant, especially during this pandemic which is severely limiting liberty and privacy. Really everything the Left is doing right now I pretty much hate. I wish I could enter a time a machine and live my prime years in better times.

I won’t take the medication because I don’t feel like I have any mental illness that needs it. I feel like my problems could be solved on my own, I’m not mentally ill I just deal with anxiety and depression which is fairly normal. I know I can fix it myself.
Rule I: Do not casually denigrate social institutions or creative achievement

edit -fuk it this guy just wants to keep making excuses
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Just curious what was the discussion about?

Just based on your username have you considered being a hitman? Don't usually need to work with many people often, typically 1-2 at a time, not a lot of speaking.
It wasn’t just one discussion, it’s a long story. But basically I was going in there and getting into debates with her about race, crime statistics, racial genetics, history, culture, incompatible cultures and values, demographics being destiny, etc.

She was being naive, she was getting irritated that no matter what she said I was able to debunk it, while she had no counters to my best points. So eventually she get sick of being made a fool of, and she flipped out like a deranged psycho, like these crazy liberal women who freak out on videos you sometimes see. I was kinda shocked but just looked at her and laughed, I said “hey, maybe you are the one that needs some medication” and I walked out. She immediately began apologizing and said she wants to see me next week, blah blah. I never went back.
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Originally Posted By poolshark472⏩
OP had the talent to become a great fighter! But instead of that, he became a leg breaker for some cheap, second rate loan shark! It's a waste of life!
I could have been a contender…in all seriousness MMA and boxing’s are passions of mine and were bigger passions years ago. I trained for years, my dream was to compete at a high level. But things happened, and that ship has sailed, I’m 24 now and haven’t been inside a boxing or MMA gym in at least 4 years. I try to keep the dust off by hitting the bag at home, shadow boxing, jumping rope, biking, etc. But it’s not the same obviously.
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Originally Posted By Sophus⏩
Rule I: Do not casually denigrate social institutions or creative achievement

edit -fuk it this guy just wants to keep making excuses
Name one excuse I have made. I am very open about having issues, and I am open to solving those issues without coming up with excuses. Identifying the contributing factors to my depression/anxiety is not an excuse, it’s simply acknowledging that it’s not an issue that sprung out of nowhere do to some sort of natural chemical imbalance.

Also saying depression is caused by a chemical imbalance is often true, that's part of it, but your experiences & environment affect your chemical balance. So saying a chemical imbalance causes depression is like saying words make a great story.
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I'm surprised to read this about you. You're an intelligent guy guy and I enjoy your posts, which makes it all the worse to read you're struggling like this.

I was like you when I was in my early twenties, but work and dating sort of brought me out of it. I do computer programming now, and it's not that interactive, though I still have to lead meetings occasionally.

The worst thing you can do is be avoidant, but at the same time I don't think I could ever work a service job again. I'd be burned out from the weird interactions you have to have with people at those sort of jobs. Maybe you can get a CDL? That was always my plan B when I was struggling to find my first job. No masks or people and you can just listen to audiobooks all day while driving across the country, and it pays way more than security or stocking shelves.
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Originally Posted By blissful88⏩
You should probably ask a nurse that instead of me




The first drug I mentioned has zero side effects for most people and is an effective anxiolytic that directly treats social anxiety as well as GAD

It's also extremely cheap & non-habit forming
Thought you're in healthcare wtf
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
Name one excuse I have made. I am very open about having issues, and I am open to solving those issues without coming up with excuses. Identifying the contributing factors to my depression/anxiety is not an excuse, it’s simply acknowledging that it’s not an issue that sprung out of nowhere do to some sort of natural chemical imbalance.

Also saying depression is caused by a chemical imbalance is often true, that's part of it, but your experiences & environment affect your chemical balance. So saying a chemical imbalance causes depression is like saying words make a great story.
It's not the world outside causing you anxiety and depression. It's something inside you that needs to be worked on/coped with effectively

your dreams of fighting aren't gone at 24, particularly in MMA if that's your thing. The political climate is chit but feeling bad about it isn't going to help. Idk brah, you seem like a sensible poster. I'm just saying you shouldn't look for external things to blame internal feelings on. Eventually in life you have to face people if you want to get anywhere. A lifetime of avoidance won't lead to where you want to be most likely
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
Age - 24

Education - High school diploma

The political situation that is contributing to my depression and anxiety is the anti-white media, woke bs ruining entertainment, the flooding of white countries with refugees with the intention of permanently disenfranchising whites and reducing us to minorities in our own countries. Also the leftist authoritarianism running rampant, especially during this pandemic which is severely limiting liberty and privacy. Really everything the Left is doing right now I pretty much hate. I wish I could enter a time a machine and live my prime years in better times.

I won’t take the medication because I don’t feel like I have any mental illness that needs it. I feel like my problems could be solved on my own, I’m not mentally ill I just deal with anxiety and depression which is fairly normal. I know I can fix it myself.
Mate you gotta find a friend or friends to bich about politics then leave it be. You're dwelling haaaard core brooo and I use to do the same
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
It wasn’t just one discussion, it’s a long story. But basically I was going in there and getting into debates with her about race, crime statistics, racial genetics, history, culture, incompatible cultures and values, demographics being destiny, etc.

She was being naive, she was getting irritated that no matter what she said I was able to debunk it, while she had no counters to my best points. So eventually she get sick of being made a fool of, and she flipped out like a deranged psycho, like these crazy liberal women who freak out on videos you sometimes see. I was kinda shocked but just looked at her and laughed, I said “hey, maybe you are the one that needs some medication” and I walked out. She immediately began apologizing and said she wants to see me next week, blah blah. I never went back.
If you want to lessen your anxiety then read history. Read about the rise and fall of rome. Read about the mass murdering and rapes that the mongols committed. Realize that often - in fact, usually - history has been much worse. Life is always a struggle and there is always an ebb and flow to power dynamics, both regional and world wide. Nothing is static.

and before you try drugs, try:

20+ minutes of sun per day
Sleep 7-8 hours
No bright screens 2 hours before bed
Eat liver a few times a week
Eat something probiotic several times a week - I like kim chi and kombucha but kefir works too.

Dead srs - been struggling with feeling like **** my whole life and these things help a lot. I'm bad about avoiding bright screens so I use apps to tone down the light - light filtering glasses also help a lot and they're cheap.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
I was diagnosed with ADD, the fact that I have depression and social anxiety was never debated by a psychiatrist. As for insomnia, I was never diagnosed officially but I sometimes stay up 20-30 hours straight, I do this every 2-3 weeks. Sometimes more, sometimes less. I'm often up all night and morning and then sleep all afternoon and evening. I function off of little sleep as well.
I have this problem too, even though I've worked a 9 to 5 for years. I go to sleep at 3 am during the week and get up before 8. Some nights I don't sleep at all. I usually catch up on the weekend.
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Originally Posted By coast2coastam⏩
I'm surprised to read this about you. You're an intelligent guy guy and I enjoy your posts, which makes it all the worse to read you're struggling like this.

I was like you when I was in my early twenties, but work and dating sort of brought me out of it. I do computer programming now, and it's not that interactive, though I still have to lead meetings occasionally.

The worst thing you can do is be avoidant, but at the same time I don't think I could ever work a service job again. I'd be burned out from the weird interactions you have to have with people at those sort of jobs. Maybe you can get a CDL? That was always my plan B when I was struggling to find my first job. No masks or people and you can just listen to audiobooks all day while driving across the country, and it pays way more than security or stocking shelves.
Oh thanks for the compliment, yeah I’ve not really been in the best state of mind for many years. I’ve been struggling with issues. I have my good days and bad days though, I am not the type of person to come on here and vent about all my issues because we see enough of that on here. But I’m just in a really tough spot right now.

Currently I just have my drivers permit, I’m working on getting my license before October, my permit is expiring towards the end of September, it’s been 5 years since I got it. So I’ve been practicing driving a lot lately in hopes to pass the drivers test, which I don’t know if I’ll be able to do. Knowing my luck, I’ll fail, my permit will expire, and I’ll be in an even worse spot than I was before. I’ve never been able to apply my intelligence to normal/regular life. It’s very specific intelligence, based around anthropology, history, politics, philosophy, etc. But working a basic job? That’s tough for me. I suffer from motivational issues, learning issues, social issues, and procrastination big time.
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Actually when I was 24 I was in the same place. I would rant to everyone about what's going on. Big chip on my shoulder. Loved Adolf
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
Are there any jobs that require minimal human interaction and are very easy? Every single job sounds difficult for me to do. I am not good at dealing with people, I have ADD so it’s hard for me to learn how to do many tasks that I am not interested in, I have insomnia so it’s hard for me to remain on a good sleeping schedule, my social anxiety can be awful, I’m often depressed, etc. However I am almost broke, and I need money. I’m seriously considering trying to get on disability but that’s not even enough money.

I’ve never had a real job, previously I was doing yard work and delivering menus for pizzerias, and it’s been years since I did that. I managed to save up a few grand that I have slowly been chipping away at, but I’m down to my last few hundred dollars.

I was given a job as a security guard, I went through the job interview and everything. However I had to go to security training which was two 8.5 hour classes which required you to wear a mask the entire time. It also cost something like 80$ to do, and I also had to get finger printed which cost like 45$. So I just bailed on the entire thing, mainly because I can’t wear a mask that long.

I just need to figure something out, I am practically in the same boat I was in when I was 17 years old. Nothing has changed for me.
You have got to be fuking kidding me, you sound like every other whiny excuse ridden reddit libtard. cant believe you call yourself right wing, suck it up and get a job.
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Originally Posted By Sophus⏩
It's not the world outside causing you anxiety and depression. It's something inside you that needs to be worked on/coped with effectively

your dreams of fighting aren't gone at 24, particularly in MMA if that's your thing. The political climate is chit but feeling bad about it isn't going to help. Idk brah, you seem like a sensible poster. I'm just saying you shouldn't look for external things to blame internal feelings on. Eventually in life you have to face people if you want to get anywhere. A lifetime of avoidance won't lead to where you want to be most likely
You are both correct and incorrect, it is things from the outside that is causing me to have bouts of depression, but my social anxiety is being caused by something from within. But I know what you are saying. Which is why I am trying to make changes but I don’t even know where to start.
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You have got to be fuking kidding me, you sound like every other whiny excuse ridden reddit libtard. cant believe you call yourself right wing, suck it up and get a job.
Right-wing socially, Left-wing economically. I’ll take a 4 day work week and UBI, but I also want mass deportations, a wall, and a total immigration moratorium.
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Originally Posted By stezus⏩
Actually when I was 24 I was in the same place. I would rant to everyone about what's going on. Big chip on my shoulder. Loved Adolf
Got more leveled out when I met more people
I try not to rant to people, if you do that too much you can sour them on your beliefs and ideology. I guess I have a chip on my shoulder, always kinda have.
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I have this problem too, even though I've worked a 9 to 5 for years. I go to sleep at 3 am during the week and get up before 8. Some nights I don't sleep at all. I usually catch up on the weekend.
It's that coast to coast am bro, seriously. I don't wanna be on a regular schedule cause I wanna hear it live and get spooky and zesty
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
Right-wing socially, Left-wing economically. I’ll take a 4 day work week and UBI, but I also want mass deportations, a wall, and a total immigration moratorium.
Dude you have like one shot to not fuk this up and go get a job before things change. This is like the only time in recent history they are desperate for any unskilled body to actually work and will overlook your lack of work history. You have until they decided to pull the rug out from the federal unemployment benefits and everyone realizes they have to go back to work, then you will be competing with all those other lazy fuks.

You couldnt have a more opportune time to straighten out your life, you better take it.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
You are both correct and incorrect, it is things from the outside that is causing me to have bouts of depression, but my social anxiety is being caused by something from within. But I know what you are saying. Which is why I am trying to make changes but I don’t even know where to start.
Its the way we interpret events that makes us feel a certain way about them, not necessarily the events themself. Self image is also important. if you have a poor one, work on building a positive self-image. Setting goals towards things you want to achieve and working Towards them helps proviDes purpose. All of the unimportant stuff will eventually fall away while you focus on whys important to you


Just keep moving forward mane. Fear is an illusion
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Dude you have like one shot to not fuk this up and go get a job before things change. This is like the only time in recent history they are desperate for any unskilled body to actually work and will overlook your lack of work history. You have until they decided to pull the rug out from the federal unemployment benefits and everyone realizes they have to go back to work, then you will be competing with all those other lazy fuks.

You couldnt have a more opportune time to straighten out your life, you better take it.
I know, you are correct, I just have poor work ethic among other issues. I’ll send out some applications in the next few days for some grocery stores, Home Depot, Wal-Mart, etc. Once I start working I’m sure I’ll be more miserable than ever. But that’s what this wage slaving rat race is supposed be like, right? Nobody is supposed to actually enjoy their life till they retire and then they can enjoy the last decade of their life if they even make it to that point. Till then we are supposed to work our lives away.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
Oh thanks for the compliment, yeah I’ve not really been in the best state of mind for many years. I’ve been struggling with issues. I have my good days and bad days though, I am not the type of person to come on here and vent about all my issues because we see enough of that on here. But I’m just in a really tough spot right now.

Currently I just have my drivers permit, I’m working on getting my license before October, my permit is expiring towards the end of September, it’s been 5 years since I got it. So I’ve been practicing driving a lot lately in hopes to pass the drivers test, which I don’t know if I’ll be able to do.Knowing my luck, I’ll fail, my permit will expire, and I’ll be in an even worse spot than I was before. I’ve never been able to apply my intelligence to normal/regular life.It’s very specific intelligence, based around anthropology, history, politics, philosophy, etc. But working a basic job? That’s tough for me. I suffer from motivational issues, learning issues, social issues, and procrastination big time.
Don't let yourself think that way. It sounds corny, but having a positive mindset helps tremendously over the long term. Every time you have thoughts like "I'll fail", you have to force yourself to think about the situation positively. It's really hard to do at first, but after a while you'll train your mind not to work that way. I used to be exactly like you, I worked in a warehouse back then and dropped out of college a few classes shy of a BS in math my senior year.

I eventually went back to school and got a CS degree, but it was a rough couple of years, and I felt like a failure during that time.

I procrastinate like crazy too, I'm actually up working right now because I've been procrastinating all day. I haven't figured out how to kick that bad habit yet lol

You're 24 though, so you've still got plenty of time to figure this stuff out. You're probably capable of a lot more than you give yourself credit for, but getting out of the sort of rut you're in takes a lot of time and work, but it'll happen if you start chipping away at it.
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Originally Posted By Sophus⏩
Its the way we interpret events that makes us feel a certain way about them, not necessarily the events themself. Self image is also important.


Just keep moving forward mane. Fear is an illusion
You sound like a Stoic, not saying that is a good or bad thing. Just very obvious that you have taken inspiration from that philosophy, it’s never been my cup of tea.
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Originally Posted By stezus⏩
It's that coast to coast am bro, seriously. I don't wanna be on a regular schedule cause I wanna hear it live and get spooky and zesty
Lol I started listening as a kid. It probably paved the way for all of my bad habits.
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Originally Posted By coast2coastam⏩
Don't let yourself think that way. It sounds corny, but having a positive mindset helps tremendously over the long term. Every time you have thoughts like "I'll fail", you have to force yourself to think about the situation positively. It's really hard to do at first, but after a while you'll train your mind not to work that way. I used to be exactly like you, I worked in a warehouse back then and dropped out of college a few classes shy of a BS in math my senior year.

I eventually went back to school and got a CS degree, but it was a rough couple of years, and I felt like a failure during that time.

I procrastinate like crazy too, I'm actually up working right now because I've been procrastinating all day. I haven't figured out how to kick that bad habit yet lol

You're 24 though, so you've still got plenty of time to figure this stuff out. You're probably capable of a lot more than you give yourself credit for, but getting out of the sort of rut you're in takes a lot of time and work, but it'll happen if you start chipping away at it.
Yeah I try to think positive, I looked into the power of positive manifestation a little bit.
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Originally Posted By SicilianPower⏩
You sound like a Stoic, not saying that is a good or bad thing. Just very obvious that you have taken inspiration from that philosophy, it’s never been my cup of tea.
Yeah well what is your cup of tea? Neetmaxxing isn't a good philosophy.

I admit I do follow stoicism, but I don't really subscribe to any one philosophy. I watch/read a lot of philo/psychological type stuff. A ton.

Saying no to something is fine, but your current mindset isn't getting you anywhere as it is. Maybe broaden your horizons

Good books for this type of thing:

Meditations by Marcus Aurelius (stoic)
Awaken the Giant within by tony robbins
Mans search for meaning by viktor frankl

Good luck man
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Originally Posted By Sophus⏩
Yeah well what is your cup of tea? Neetmaxxing isn't a good philosophy.

I admit I do follow stoicism, but I don't really subscribe to any one philosophy. I watch/read a lot of philo/psychological type stuff. A ton.

Saying no to something is fine, but your current mindset isn't getting you anywhere as it is. Maybe broaden your horizons

Good books for this type of thing:

Meditations by Marcus Aurelius (stoic)
Awaken the Giant within by tony robbins
Mans search for meaning by viktor frankl

Good luck man
My cup of tea in terms of philosophy is rational-egoism, anti-egalitarianism, Depressive Realism, and Existentialism.

I’ve always sound Stoicism to be geared more towards people with a certain natural born mindset. Some people say it’s a slave philosophy, I don’t think that but I do think it’s for people who are more likely to accept things rather than become revolutionary. The way I see it, it preaches that you're just supposed to restrain yourself, you just do life hacks to avoid suffering, then you die.

Procrastinating doesn’t help anything but being content with reality is a sure way of never changing anything either.

But thank you, I’ll check that stuff out.
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