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post 1646590823 09-07-2021, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted By lightsarefallin
10/10 thread, sickening expertise espoused. Will save and read to grandchildren. dead srs. I am now enlightened.

Thanks for taking the time to post the same exact thread that people here have compulsively been posting for months.
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post 1646590853 09-07-2021, 10:13 PM
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I'm not gonna pressure people to get the vaccine, it's annoying, and I was on the other side before. But I am gonna correct one thing about this stat people loving throwing around.. the 99.97% survival rate. We can show this is incorrect simply and without bias.

That is by looking at the US covid death rate and dividing that by your presumed IFR (real death rate) of 0.03% or 0.0003 in an equation. Stats say we had 651k deaths. So 651,000 / 0.0003 = 2.17 billion.

In order for your claimed IFR to be right, 2.17 billion Americans got covid. Now you naturally will dispute the official death rate, but you can roughly verify it by looking at the trend of all cause mortality in the last few years and see.. a massive bump.

People make claims all they want, but when they're closely examined their credibility may take a huge hit. The IFR isn't 0.03%, it's closer to 0.67%. That's substantially higher by several fold than the seasonal flu. Now, you might say that's still such a small number, but the point is what it does to the hospitals and economy, since it obviously also spreads way faster than influenza.

Then there's the long covid that some 10-30% get, which in some cases you may have preferred death.
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Agreed OP. To be effective you need to find local groups to do coordinated trolling of restaurants, really hit their pocket books by over burdening them to the point they hire security, drive prices even higher, that will lower customer levels further

Repeatly return, if the cops come, come back an hour later to make them call them again, always leave before they get there though, cops have already said in my area they will not come to resolve covid disputes

Remember wearing a mask is important to protect you and those around you, a balaclava is a very effective mask

Make sure you are in groups incase a wild Karen appears

Since these goofs want to fight, lets make it ugly as possible for them and everyone involved
post 1646593813 09-07-2021, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted By stezus
I'm not gonna pressure people to get the vaccine, it's annoying, and I was on the other side before. But I am gonna correct one thing about this stat people loving throwing around.. the 99.97% survival rate. We can show this is incorrect simply and without bias.

That is by looking at the US covid death rate and dividing that by your presumed IFR (real death rate) of 0.03% or 0.0003 in an equation. Stats say we had 651k deaths. So 651,000 / 0.0003 = 2.17 billion.

In order for your claimed IFR to be right, 2.17 billion Americans got covid. Now you naturally will dispute the official death rate, but you can roughly verify it by looking at the trend of all cause mortality in the last few years and see.. a massive bump.

People make claims all they want, but when they're closely examined their credibility may take a huge hit. The IFR isn't 0.03%, it's closer to 0.67%. That's substantially higher by several fold than the seasonal flu. Now, you might say that's still such a small number, but the point is what it does to the hospitals and economy, since it obviously also spreads way faster than influenza.

Then there's the long covid that some 10-30% get, which in some cases you may have preferred death.
WHOs study has the worldwide IFR at 0.23%
https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_....20.265892.pdf

Plus deaths were overcounted but we'll never know by how much, looks like 25%-30% at least
https://nypost.com/2021/06/06/ca-cou...used-by-covid/
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/death-...ause-of-death/
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id rather get vaxxed than get a chinese bioweapon
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Originally Posted By A-GAME
funny a country that wept when the nazi's arrived, are now pulling the same crap on its citizens


Are these cops brain dead?
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I went on a bar crawl in San Francisco and we had to show our vaxx cards to get in. You literally can't do anything in California without being vaccinated.

No friend or family member will even meet you in person if you're not vaxxed. I don't know a single person in California who isn't vaxxed.

Thus, you would be an outcast who can't do anything social. No thanks. I want to see my friends and family after the stupid lockdown.

I was also hoping that the vaxx would make it so I don't need to wear a mask, but that only lasted for 6 weeks. Grrrrrr. I can't stand masks as they make me unbalanced and claustrophobic.
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
I went on a bar crawl in San Francisco and we had to show our vaxx cards to get in. You literally can't do anything in California without being vaccinated.

No friend or family member will even meet you in person if you're not vaxxed. I don't know a single person in California who isn't vaxxed.
you wont be vaxxed for long, did you sign up for the 5 month booster program?
post 1646594783 09-07-2021, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted By A-GAME
Europe has seen this before...
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Originally Posted By Jessejame5
WHOs study has the worldwide IFR at 0.23%
https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_....20.265892.pdf

Plus deaths were overcounted but we'll never know by how much, looks like 25%-30% at least
https://nypost.com/2021/06/06/ca-cou...used-by-covid/
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/death-...ause-of-death/
IFR rates are notoriously all over the map. I just wonder why you used a year plus old source from the abysmal WHO, the least credible of any health organization after their role in letting covid spread:
https://www.cdc.gov/library/covid19/...vidupdate.html
0.7%
Most conclusions will clock in around that 0.67 area.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
Does your math take into account the fact that a lot of people were marked as covid deaths despite dying with covid and not of covid? Does it consider that anyone who tested positive within 3-4 weeks after death was counted as a covid death supposedly?
I specifically accounted for that by saying people would naturally refute the death statistics. You can verify it yourself by looking at all cause mortality.


https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

Some of those deaths were improperly recorded, but not enough to change the narrative where you want it to go
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Originally Posted By benedetto27
I agree with op.

I have been thinking about it and I see no logical reason to get vaccinated, only government force. It does not stop me from spreading it, and maybe will make me more likely to spread it since I may be less symptomatic and less likely to self isolate.

I even donated blood today for the 12th time to remind myself I’m not selfish and I don’t put other ppl at risk. I am happy to take reasonable precautions. Firing ppl is not reasonable. Showing your papers to live life is not reasonable.

If I get covid, there is a better chance of me winning a quarter million on the lotto than dying, even with my asthma (which is light only makes me not able to smoke) According to that Oxford calculator. And then I would get natural immunity which is superior even.

I will not comply, **** it.
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Originally Posted By LifeChoices
funny a country that wept when the nazi's arrived, are now pulling the same crap on its citizens


Are these cops brain dead?
There's always been something Vichy about the French...
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post 1646595023 09-08-2021, 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
you wont be vaxxed for long, did you sign up for the 5 month booster program?
No, but I'm sure I'll have to get a booster. I got vaxxed in May.

I hated the vaccine as my arm hurt like hell for days and I felt like someone injected poison in my body. I was also really sick after the second shot with a fever, body aches and chills.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
The people who use the 99.97% number are taking it for their specific age group, not as an overall number.
Only problem with that is delta threw a wrench in those assumptions. We don't know what the current IFR is for the younger unvaccinated. Probably not a ton higher, but there's still % needing hospitalized, and what happens when hospitals are full? You need oxygen but can't get it, the death rate would climb. Then there's long covid.
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post 1646595193 09-08-2021, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
No, but I'm sure I'll have to get a booster. I got vaxxed in May.

I hated the vaccine as my arm hurt like hell for days and I felt like someone injected poison in my body. I was also really sick after the second shot with a fever, body aches and chills.
I wonder if it is a compounded effect, stay safe when you take the 3rd 4th and 5th ones in the next year and a bit
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Everyone needs to make their own choice.
With that I agree.. I'm the only person in my family/friends circle that got it. Labor day at my place was constant vax bashing, which I'm fine with. Only my dad so far knows I got it, cause it may cause great upset

The thing is the vax isn't the only way to build immunity. There's tons of holistic approaches.. Xlear nasal spray, green tea, buncha supps like quercetin, NAC. And what I'm particularly a fan of recently is essential oils. Listerine, betadine, h2o2 also. Hesperidin in orange juice. As long as you're doing something and not waiting with pants around ankles hoping you'll be one of the milder cases
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Originally Posted By stezus
With that I agree.. I'm the only person in my family/friends circle that got it. Labor day at my place was constant vax bashing, which I'm fine with. Only my dad so far knows I got it, cause it may cause great upset

The thing is the vax isn't the only way to build immunity. There's tons of holistic approaches.. Xlear nasal spray, green tea, buncha supps like quercetin, NAC. And what I'm particularly a fan of recently is essential oils. Listerine, betadine, h2o2 also. Hesperidin in orange juice. As long as you're doing something and not waiting with pants around ankles hoping you'll be one of the milder cases
You may have actually endangered your family. If you're vaxxed, you could actually exhale the spike proteins and cause your family members to become sick.

https://media.tghn.org/medialibrary/...ech.pdf#page67

Look at pages, 67, 68, and 69. The concern is buried in there amidst discussion of risk factors for pregnant women.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
You may have actually endangered your family. If you're vaxxed, you could actually exhale the spike proteins and cause your family members to become sick.

https://media.tghn.org/medialibrary/...ech.pdf#page67

Look at pages, 67, 68, and 69. The concern is buried in there amidst discussion of risk factors for pregnant women.
Anyone who thinks you can actually exhale spike proteins and infect people with them needs to just leave society.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
Anyone who thinks you can actually exhale spike proteins and infect people with them needs to just leave society.
Read Pfizer's own report, little man.
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Then there's the long covid that some 10-30% get, which in some cases you may have preferred death.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=stezus post_id=1646594803]IFR rates are notoriously all over the map. I just wonder why you used a year plus old source from the abysmal WHO, the least credible of any health organization after their role in letting covid spread:
[URL=https://www.cdc.gov/library/covid19/04092021_covidupdate.html]https://www.cdc.gov/library/covid19/...vidupdate.html[/URL]
0.7%
Most conclusions will clock in around that 0.67 area.



I specifically accounted for that by saying people would naturally refute the death statistics. You can verify it yourself by looking at all cause mortality.

[img]https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/figures/mm7014e1-F1.gif[/img]
[URL=https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm]https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm[/URL]

Some of those deaths were improperly recorded, but not enough to change the narrative where you want it to go[/QUOTE]where are you getting 0.67%? heres another actual study showing an IFR of 0.15% globally (naturally some places may vary).

[URL=https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13554]https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13554[/URL]

Have you saw the symptoms for long covid? Some of it is very vague chit like "fatigue" or "anxiety", chit anybody can claim to have and considering the climate that we are in now with constant media bombardment of covid. Well yeah ... if you include all those symptoms 10-30% might have "long covid". But people don't actually know what it is and what it constitutes.
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Originally Posted By CuttyUnderleaf
Damn I wish I would have read this before I was vaxxed.
BLOOD CLOT FORMATION: VISUAL DISPLAY OF HOW MRNA VACCINE AFFECTS CELLS
https://thetattyjournal.org/2021/08/...affects-cells/

ALERT: DOCTOR SAYS MRNA VACCINES “WILL KILL MOST PEOPLE” THROUGH HEART FAILURE, 62% OF VACCINATED PEOPLE ALREADY SHOW MICROSCOPIC BLOOD CLOTS
https://thetattyjournal.org/2021/07/...c-blood-clots/

MEDICAL SHOCKER: Scientists at Sloan Kettering discover mRNA inactivates tumor-suppressing proteins, meaning it can promote cancer
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-...-proteins.html

BUSTED: Scripted Covid propaganda reveals how nearly all American doctors are just puppets of the corrupt American Medical Association and the Vaccine Industrial Complex
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-...ig-pharma.html

SHOCKER: Red Cross is warning all Americans that Covid-vaccinated humans are INELIGIBLE for donating plasma… does that mean their blood and organs are also contaminated with spike proteins?
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-...ng-plasma.html

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/f...age4901000/pg1
"Starting a thread on Covid vaccinated cancer cases

I'm hearing about instances of leukemia and/or fast spreading cancers being diagnosed in vaccinated as short as days after they're injected. My neighbor told me there are several people in our neighborhood that have recent cancer diagnoses. One woman early 40's was diagnosed with breast cancer shortly after shots, double mastectomy. A man, late 50's stage 4 lung cancer after shots. Another woman in her 30's brain/lung cancer. There's even a seven year old girl -- is it from shedding from her parents? Then there are a couple more -- an elderly woman - maybe in her 70's and I'm not sure what type of cancer it is and there's a couple more that I don't know the details.

So, I'm asking you all to share instances of cancer in vaccinated because I fear and do believe that genetic damage is causing this and this is the tip of the iceberg. Media and health agencies will ignore/hide this to get as many vaxed as possible.

Someone posted a thread on twitter that a FOXO3 gene is affected by the shots and results in rapid aging."
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...614670855.html

You're a walking dead man, congratulations, you won the prize. I dare you to go get a D-Dimer test and post your results on the forum.
"The reason we are being murdered with genetic altering drugs is its slow acting and it causes your body to malfunction and destroy itself so there is a "plausible deniability" factor. Unlike most poisons which leave more evidence of being the direct cause of death."

1,151+ pages of peoples accounts of Covid-19 vaccine damage:
https://vestibular.org/forum/dizziness/covid-19-vaccine-side-effects/
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Originally Posted By davik
id rather get vaxxed than get a chinese bioweapon
I got some bad news bro…


You still get Covid when “vaccinated.”
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The CDC changed their wording.






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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
No, but I'm sure I'll have to get a booster. I got vaxxed in May.

I hated the vaccine as my arm hurt like hell for days and I felt like someone injected poison in my body. I was also really sick after the second shot with a fever, body aches and chills.
But you're going to take a booster anyway, just to have a "social life" ? Sheesh, this country is full of weak men.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed
Read Pfizer's own report, little man.
I just read the three pages you cited. There is literally nothing in any of them about spike proteins at all.
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Originally Posted By WoofieNugget
I just read the three pages you cited. There is literally nothing in any of them about spike proteins at all.
That's what the vaccines does though. The mRNA creates those and if they don't all remain "stuck" to the muscle and lymphatic cells, they can get into your bloodstream. Pfizer acknowledged this risk in their document and the need for it to be reported. Many people claim it isn't happening, but we have many anecdotes of people getting the vaccine, going home, and then everyone in their household coming down with COVID symptoms, so clearly the jury is still out on this.
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I just stopped pretending that I care. I dont need to project false views that I care about others etc.

Ill be blunt "no im not vaxed, no I don't care about your grandma, or you for that matter, I am not at risk nor do I fear it".

Thats if it ever comes up anymore. Ill shop etc without a mask and all of that. Noone has said anything yet, I think most are over it and the ones who are wearing the masks are too, they are just afraid of confrontation.

I am literally just over it and sick of pretending like I actually care anymore. I am going to live my life, im not going to let the clown world and fear tactics prevent me from doing me anymore. Its wasted time and pointless.
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Originally Posted By SSM12
I just stopped pretending that I care. I dont need to project false views that I care about others etc.

Ill be blunt "no im not vaxed, no I don't care about your grandma, or you for that matter, I am not at risk nor do I fear it".

Thats if it ever comes up anymore. Ill shop etc without a mask and all of that. Noone has said anything yet, I think most are over it and the ones who are wearing the masks are too, they are just afraid of confrontation.

I am literally just over it and sick of pretending like I actually care anymore. I am going to live my life, im not going to let the clown world and fear tactics prevent me from doing me anymore. Its wasted time and pointless.
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