Everything you've outlined is demonstrative of the failure our governments exhibited over the course of this pandemic.

I did not, and do not, make personal health decisions for myself nor for my family based on what media or politicians say. Politicians lie; it's their job.

I got what I expected from vaccination and don't feel scammed.

On this forum, it's the unvaccinated members that seem particularly violent and filled with hatred and judgement regarding the personal decisions of others.

You're being extremely intellectually dishonest. You're another example of acting like because youpersonallydon't agree with (or at least claim not to agree with) the mandates and the like, then that means they don't exist. That's exactly what you were doing in that previous post, now when someone calls you on that you backtrack to "well I don't agree with mandates"...well guess what? They're still happening, and once the state starts implementing things like that it's intellectually dishonest to just pretend it's simply "a health decision" or whatever nonsense.

Especially considering the initial boosters had to account for toxicity of the ingredients. WHich is also why you space out things like this in general, and now were told more and more and more boosters needed.

I'm not pretending they don't exist. I was vaccinated before there were any talks of mandates.

I don't understand why I should be killed for being vaccinated.

I don't make government policy.

The thread title says people who are vaccinated have remorse. But the thread content is almost exclusively unvaccinated people directing their anger at the wrong people.

Vaccines and vaccine mandates are separate issues.

For me and my family it was entirely a health decision; we're not American.

What about the people who thought things would get back to normal and yet we still see tons of restrictions?

What about the countless people who lost their business due to lockdowns while big businesses made record profits?

What about the kids who lost over a year of classroom learning for no good reason?

What about the people who were low risk for covid yet got the injection because it is safe and effective then developed severe complications from it?

What about the kids who lost a year of sports and/or socialization for no good reason?



The list goes on and on. Just because you got an injection and feel good doesn’t mean tons of people weren’t scammed. 2020 saw the largest upward transfer of wealth in human history while the general population actually got muchlesshealthy and government powers/overreach grew more than any other time in my life.

Those are all government and political policies and none of those things happened due to people being vaccinated. Doses were ordered by governments prior to administration it's not like "vaxxcels" did pre-orders and set all of this in motion. The anger and hatred is directed at an incorrect, but easy, target.

Where have I expressed any hatred or anger toward people who haven't had a vaccine?

The most recent neg simply says "DIE"

I don’t direct my anger at people who got the injection. I direct my anger at the govt. and businesses that push us in this direction. And all of those things I listed are scams, and yes I would include mRNA injections on that list of scams. Sure some people may be better off with them, but the mandates and propaganda along with other measures are absolutely a scam. If I sell you bear spray and then you feel good about your purchase that doesn’t mean I didn’t scam you. And if I partner with businesses and government officials to say “you can’t enter this business unless you’re wearing bear spray” or “you can’t work here unless you have bear spray” it makes the scam that much worse. The response and actions are not justified by the level of threat that we really face, and if the threat was that severe there are lots of other things that we could be doing to help as much or more. So then you have to ask yourself why? The trend seems to be - things that make certain organizations tons of money are promoted while less profitable options are ignored or even demonized. The trend seems to be that governments are exaggerating the threat in order to increase their power. Do you think that is indicative of a scam?

you trolling bruh?

Fauci is a tiny puppet in a global machine. A machine that control all govts, banks, pharma co and lawmakers.

Removing him would do lees than nothing to stop what's happening.

True. It is a failure, but too many governments and politicians are committed to it.

It really is starting to look like the mRNA vaccines may be detrimental and increase your odds of severe illness. I wouldn't call it conclusive as there are too many potential confounding factors [age, health status, behavior], but when the hospitalizations are 2X on a percentage basis among the "fully vaccinated" vs. the unvaccinated there is legitimate reason for concern.These last ones are the most jaw dropping for me personally. I can totally understand individuals deciding that being vaccinated is the best option for their own health. And I can even understand people who initially believed that the vaccine would do what vaccines are known to do- end the pandemic and get life back to normal.

At this point is seems beyond obvious that "normal" will not happen without some real push back by citizens.

That you would still be on board the "universal vaccination is a worthy goal that should be pursued at any cost" train this far in with so much more information about how trash these jabs are???

Let's keep the discussion tangible. Where haveIexpressed hatred or anger? Where havevaccinated Miscers expressed hatred or anger? I don't represent Canada.

True. Things did look very promising there for a minute, but fell flat again. Damn.
Fauci is going with the politician motto: if something doesn't work, just keep repeating it.

Not until Pfizer's antiviral cocktail is on the market will they stress treatment. Could have mentioned Vitamin D, Quercetin + zinc, NAC, L-Arginine and a whole slew of other treatments and preventions this whole time but hey those are cheap and over the counter. Which makes them a problem.

Just take the ineffective treatment or lose your job.

Take the treatment or you can’t leave the country. (Which is the case in Canada)

Take the treatment or be exiled from public life.


This is an ineffective treatment that’s it.

Fauci for president!

I agree the response has been a disaster. I don't think vaccines or the pandemic are scams. But, I do think people are taking advantage of the situation to drive division. If we're busy hating our neighbours, we won't be looking at our politicians.

think most people already decided at this point, lets see what happens next (i guess more people keeling over)

over 100 million people world wide have been forced into poverty and starvation due to COVID

Due the pandemic, yes. Not due to people being vaccinated.

If people were starving because others were vaccinated, I can see that leading to remorse over vaccination. But it's not the case.

due to the rich countries approach to COVID



a dn hoarding vaccines

Agreed.

But why would those approaches cause vaccine remorse in average citizens? People in poor countries starved because North Americans accepted vaccines when offered?

If I refused the vaccine how many lives would that have spared?

I didn't hoard anything. I received two doses.

The politicizing of a health matter is the problem.

I think blame and hatred towards individuals for the decisions and actions of their acting government is misplaced.

This thread proves beyond a doubt that vaccine remorse is real. And is in fact. Spectacular.

Yes but when "weighing the health risks of infections" one must take into account the very real scenario where they may not ever get COVID regardless of being unvaccinated. I won't argue what % chance that is but it is very real and statistically very significant in "weighing the health risks" . The strawman argument commonly made on the risks of a serious case of COVID vs a vaccine side effect conveniently ignore this very common outcome. Individuals who take the vaccine have a 100% chance of taking the vaccine. People who don't, do not have a 100% of catching COVID regardless of what anyone tells you. Many people have T-cell immunity to COVID based on previous infections. You can also build up an immunity to COVID by being exposed to a low viral load multiple times while never having an inflammatory response, this is called micro-exposures. Then you get into the also real odds of having asymptomatic COVID and from there you finally move onto the most likely scenario *if you are indeed infected*, where your experience is on-par with a medium to strong cold.

I absolutely agree.

If one's goal is acquired immunity, there are two paths: infection or vaccination. One should consider all factors towards both paths.

There are still idiots here walking around in masks in stores and driving alone in their cars with them on. And I’m sure they’ve all had the initial series of woke pokes and about 4 boosters by now too.

I just want to walk up to them and say “Hey, if it was really as bad as they wish it was, your dumb ass would already be dead by now”

Well yeah, if everyone would just get their monthly boosters, we would fix this problem. But all these damn trumpers are against it.... It truly boggles my mind how they can be so selfish!

Brutal if true

He even said he won't retire until covid19 is under control. At this rate, he'll die working. A55hole.

you are a fckn idiot ....please stop being a fckn idiot.....no one likes fckn idiots