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» Jordan Peterson to incels: If women aren't picking you it's because they're right
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post 1651341843 11-23-2021, 06:36 AM
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post 1651342053 11-23-2021, 06:42 AM
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Its the same with the MGTOW crew....

MGTOW is supposed to be about moving past women and men doing their own thing.

Almost 100% of them attempt to avoid women for the sake of being illusive, as a strategy to attract women.

For the vast majority of this crew there isnt an honest bone in the body...and women see through it just like they do with nice guy syndrome. They know nice guys arent actually being nice, its a tactic to get in their pants.
post 1651342453 11-23-2021, 06:57 AM
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Peterson himself would be an incel if he had been born after 1995.
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post 1651342603 11-23-2021, 07:01 AM
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There's almost no point in saying this. It's not gonna get through to anyone who doesn't already know it.
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post 1651342623 11-23-2021, 07:02 AM
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Saw this on another site, pleasantly surprised to see some of the posts ITT. I've seen JP say some weird things, but he's pretty spot on with this take. Who wants a salty loser when they can have a reliable man and father for their child? You probably don't want a bitter woman for a life mate either.
Originally Posted By Anachron
No it's not.

Most guys are just pushovers and bend over at the time.

You can pay the ex, or you can pay for a proper legal counsel.
Based. What is up with that?
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post 1651342933 11-23-2021, 07:09 AM
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just go up and say "Hi" works every time
post 1651343253 11-23-2021, 07:17 AM
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Imagine going through life blaming other people for all your issues

I guess its a lot easier to do that then to change yourself….what a chit existence
post 1651343683 11-23-2021, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
No it's not.

Most guys are just pushovers and bend over at the time.

You can pay the ex, or you can pay for a proper legal counsel.
97% of alimony payments go to women. But I'm sure it's all just bad luck or guys just end up with ****ty lawyers 97% of the time. No gender bias or ridiculous marriage consequences at all.
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post 1651344013 11-23-2021, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted By TappingTheZen
Is he though?

He is captain obvious, but apparently a lot of people need that. A lot of JP's career is pointing out things that should be obvious to young men, but aren't. I don't really think this is useless.

A lot of his material is recycled from many philosophers, and i personally prefer to read them from the source rather than with JP inbetween 'interpreting' it. However, not everyone has the mental faculties and/or attention span for this and JP packages it in a more palatable way. JP definitely has a demographic who he provides good value to, that they would not otherwise get elsewhere so he's definitely not 'so useless'

Not sure why it triggers you so much tbh.
Agreed. Peterson is telling us what we all deep down know is true but don’t act upon.

Like telling the truth and self care. How many of us make it a point to be honest? I don’t mean be a dickhead and tell people ****ty things under the guise of “honesty” but truly having integrity?

Same with self care. Never realized I didn’t take as good of care of myself as I could until I really made an effort. Makes a huge difference.
post 1651344043 11-23-2021, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Not "end up with by chance".

Not paying enough is a big part of it - pay now, or pay later.

There's also the fact that a lot of "men" are simps, and won't push for anything.
Or don't sign an unconscionable marriage contract and never have to worry about it.
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post 1651344933 11-23-2021, 07:56 AM
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post 1651345273 11-23-2021, 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted By Tanerian
By common sense, hopefully you mean "no ****, idiot".

He's basically being captain fuking obvious here, and adding nothing of value to anything. Pretty much his MO.

"I state the obvious with big words. God damn I'm so smart".

He's so useless.
Not nearly as useless as this comment. If you understood even basic human psychology you would understand the value to the incels of someone like Peterson stating this. People harken to opinions of those with influence because of the influential person, not because of the wisdom of the opinion.
Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Did not watch

He’s prob right but still it’s very harsh to just say it like that.

It’s like telling a 5 year old listen Santa is fake and life is suffering and you’re going to prob get cancer or get divorced or both and you will def die. And btw all your pets will DIE.
Are you comparing grown men to 5 year olds who believe in Santa Clause? Jeez the misc. woke up and chose stupidity this morning I guess.
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post 1651345343 11-23-2021, 08:05 AM
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What he should really be telling these men is to objectively assess their flaws and make do
post 1651345693 11-23-2021, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
Agree with Dr. Peterson.

Women always choose what's best for them, and society as a whole.
Well, the first part of that is correct, society as a whole? Lmfao

Women are extremely selfish everything is about them personally. Why do you think they **** invading armies while their brothers and fathers are killed?
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post 1651345923 11-23-2021, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Did not watch

He’s prob right but still it’s very harsh to just say it like that.

It’s like telling a 5 year old listen Santa is fake and life is suffering and you’re going to prob get cancer or get divorced or both and you will def die. And btw all your pets will DIE.
Dude what. Men can take hearing that they need to grow up and take accountability for the direction of their lives. Coddling them about cleaning their stupid rooms is what got them in this boat in the first place lol
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post 1651346103 11-23-2021, 08:21 AM
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I'm willing to bet that the majority of dudes, including the misc could land a decent chick. They just choose to sit on reddit and cope with a victim mentality.

Unless you're severely disfigured, obese or autistic, you can probably mingle with other humans just fine. I think people are becoming more isolated thus having less chances to actually meet girls. If everyone was more social and society wasn't hiding behind their phone screens, then you'd see a lot more healthy individuals in relationships.

I think incels expect women to just jump out from the aisles at the grocery store and offer to suck them off in the parking lot. Doesn't work like that. Have to socialize and interact with other humans.
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan
Well if those dark triad criminals are getting women to choose them, then they must be high quality men otherwise women wouldn't choose them, would they? Why would a woman ever make a choice that doesn't benefit her or society?

Like Dr. Peterson said, THEY'RE RIGHT, you're wrong. End of story.
i agree with peterson.


ur the autistic ****git that threw in GOOD FOR SOCIETY AS A WHOLE idiocy
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Lol if thats true then why do women pick guys that beat them and cheat on them while having no job?

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Originally Posted By orangetide
What he should really be telling these men is to objectively assess their flaws and make do
He does say that in his lectures. Hard to cover everything in an interview.
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post 1651347163 11-23-2021, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted By batmanman
Lol if thats true then why do women pick guys that beat them and cheat on them while having no job?

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Sir what women are you hanging around? Goodness. I legitimately do not know in real life a woman or man like that.
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He's wrong.

Women are attracted to masculine men, whether they're aware of it or not : just like we're attracted by young and very feminine women.

However being masculine does not always correlate with being a "good man" (whatever you put behind that) : I know a lot of deadbeats, wife-beaters, lazy ****s and POS who slay on easy-mode.

It's all about the face/swagger. The rest is futile.

Even worse, most women are incapable or making the right choice : they could have mister perfect right in front of them and they would not even recognize his qualities and pick a loser instead, only to come back crawling a few weeks/months/years later when they finally saw the light but with a dried up heavy mileage pussy.

No thank jeff.

I'm gonna marry a third-world east-african wife, knock her up and ask nothing from her except loyalty, spreading her legs 3 or 4 times a week and be docile.
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Originally Posted By CityJaeger
He's wrong.

Women are attracted to masculine men, whether they're aware of it or not : just like we're attracted by young and very feminine women.

However being masculine does not always correlate with being a "good man" (whatever you put behind that) : I know a lot of deadbeats, wife-beaters, lazy ****s and POS who slay on easy-mode.

It's all about the face/swagger. The rest is futile.

Even worse, most women are incapable or making the right choice : they could have mister perfect right in front of them and they would not even recognize his qualities and pick a loser instead, only to come back crawling a few weeks/months/years later when they finally saw the light but with a dried up heavy mileage pussy.

No thank jeff.

I'm gonna marry a third-world east-african wife, knock her up and ask nothing from her except loyalty, spreading her legs 3 or 4 times a week and be docile.
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Absolutely agree with him

Ppl live in this delusional world they’ve made up for themselves and are afraid to look at themselves and address their flaws and weaknesses
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absolutely right

just more incels in society while everyone chases chads

that's "right"
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Originally Posted By Sandmang27
Some men can follow his advice but by definition most men cannot. If we all become "above average" then that is no longer above average and becomes average. If most men start making $100k then women will want $500k, if we all became 6' tall then they'd want 6'5", if we all had a 6 pack then they'd want an 8 pack etc etc.
This guy gets it.

The entire mammal kingdom is polygynous. The above average animal brahs get multiple bishes, the below average brahs get none. Blaming below average humans for not getting any pussy is like blaming the sky for being blue, and that "average" bar is always shifting.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Idk I guess I just feel bad for them.

If it’s things they can control that’s fine but most of mating selection is based on factors outside of their control.
this. the more sexually permissive society becomes the more the divide between genetic haves and have-nots will increase. the haves will have to do less work to have sex, will the price of admission for have-nots will skyrocket. in fact, we're already seeing that. simping and paying money for female attention is basically already at an ATH. peterson is right on this issue, but not for the reason he thinks he is. genetics are everything now when it comes to reproductive success, and you can't change em.
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