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post 1651454963 11-24-2021, 09:06 PM
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whats with nobody giving a fuq about the perforated boomer lying on the deck
post 1651455133 11-24-2021, 09:09 PM
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that dude executed an unarmed father wanting his child

hope he feels good about himself

he also escalated the entire situation
post 1651455153 11-24-2021, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By FastBack6⏩
Yea people donโ€™t realize that thereโ€™s the US and then thereโ€™s Texas. Thereโ€™s a lot of ways to legally shoot someone there that arenโ€™t legal anywhere else.

Pretty sure they still have the โ€œnight prowlerโ€ law where you can shoot anyone after dark that is on your property attempting to enter any structure/vehicle or steal anything, even if itโ€™s a leaf rake.
In a lot of states this would have been legal as long as he didn't fire that 'warning shot' when he did. In my state (oregon), if someone is on my property and I have my firearm out (which I legally can do, or I am carrying it on me), and someone tells me they are going to take my gun and shoot me with it and then they try to take my gun from me, I'd be well within my rights to shoot that person. They made their threat known, then they acted on it by trying to take the gun from me, I could reasonably assume/fear this person will take it and actually shoot me w/ it like they said.
Originally Posted By nn586⏩
that dude executed an unarmed father wanting his child

hope he feels good about himself

he also escalated the entire situation
Thats the ****ed up part, honestly the woman/mom is ****ing responsible for this.

I think the dude was being pretty reasonable (threatening court, and not physical harm or anything else), until the point he told the guy he'll take the gun and shoot him w/ it.
post 1651455193 11-24-2021, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
that dude executed an unarmed father wanting his child

hope he feels good about himself

he also escalated the entire situation
this wtf...
post 1651455233 11-24-2021, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
In a lot of states this would have been legal as long as he didn't fire that 'warning shot' when he did. In my state (oregon), if someone is on my property and I have my firearm out (which I legally can do, or I am carrying it on me), and someone tells me they are going to take my gun and shoot me with it and then they try to take my gun from me, I'd be well within my rights to shoot that person. They made their threat known, then they acted on it by trying to take the gun from me, I could reasonably assume/fear this person will take it and actually shoot me w/ it like they said.
This is a load of BS you are spewing out. People can be on your property for many reasons. And there's only a few reasons you can shoot them, one of them being that they are a threat. LOL. You have no clue what you are talking about.
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post 1651455293 11-24-2021, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
He then attempted to take the firearm from the man on his own property. 10/10 times that will get you shot, and will be deemed legal. ESPECIALLY after you tell the person you're going to take their gun and shoot them with it.
Am I missing this somehow? I've watched the video 5 times and it isn't clear he was trying to take the gun away, and didn't hear him saying he would shoot him.
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post 1651455383 11-24-2021, 09:14 PM
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i dont know about American law, but isnt this similar to Arbery wrestling the gun away?
post 1651455473 11-24-2021, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By drvillain⏩
this wtf...
Like my uncle said years ago (in regards to police officers) but it applies here too.

โ€œDonโ€™t ever argue with a man who has a gun, settle it in courtโ€
post 1651455493 11-24-2021, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Fozzy13⏩
Man A suppose to pick up his kid at 315, kid is not there. Man A is demanding to see his kid and says he is suppose to get him at 315...the guy who is living at the house? Man B tells him to leave..Man A says something (cant hear) and Man B goes inside. Man A is arguing with sloot about seeing his kid and apparently sloot wanted to see the kid and had told Dude A to pick him up later. Man B comes out with gun and says to leave, Man A gets rustled and walks up to man with gun. Man with gun shoots a warning shot? Its pointed at Man As feet, Man A reaches for Gun, Man with gun ends up shooting Man A.
Originally Posted By Soonerjohn⏩
It appears ex-wife had been playing games with custody of the son. This particular instance he was supposed to have custody at 3:15 and she had the kid somewhere else and was telling him tough luck. New BF wants him gone and tells him to leave. He doesn't leave so new BF gets gun. Ex goes apechit and tells him to use it or he is going to take it and use it on him. Fires warning shot and the dude grabs the gun, he breaks free and drops him.

It sounds like the new wife of the dude that got shot didn't comprehend the dude was dead and kept arguing.
Thanks, on recharge. The bitch sounds like the reason behind the fiasco and death ultimately.
post 1651455513 11-24-2021, 09:16 PM
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This is what happens in a cucked society.

SRS, religion is right about woman.

Biological father should get the kids and the wife should go back to her family in cases of divorce.

Now here we are, one man dead, one man facing jail and a boy who will grow up without his father while the woman plays the hapless victim and gets sympathy.

Men need to start playing it smarter.

If the wife was playing games then both her and the new boyfriend should go to jail. Her for being manipulative and the boyfriend for being a cuck.

If they weren't playing games and the dad was a deadbeat that would always pull
stunts like this then send condolences to the kids and have everyone move on.
post 1651455613 11-24-2021, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
This is a load of BS you are spewing out. People can be on your property for many reasons. And there's only a few reasons you can shoot them, one of them being that they are a threat. LOL. You have no clue what you are talking about.
You really should read some laws and look at caselaw in texas, and not whatever liberal ****hole you live in.

here is a fine example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Ho...ng_controversy
The Joe Horn shooting controversy occurred on November 14, 2007, in Pasadena, Texas, United States, when local resident Joe Horn shot and killed two burglars outside his neighbor's home. Recordings of Horn's exchange with emergency dispatch indicated that he was asked 14 times not to interfere with the burglary, because police would soon be on scene.[1] The shootings resulted in debates regarding self-defense, Castle Doctrine laws, and Texas laws relating to use of deadly force to prevent or stop property crimes. The undocumented status of both burglars was highlighted because of the U.S. border controversy.[2] On June 30, 2008, Joe Horn was cleared by a grand jury in the Pasadena shootings.
You're outmatched here, you're in over your head and you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about. Go back to CCP/China trolling, stay out of actual intellectual/serious threads.
Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Am I missing this somehow? I've watched the video 5 times and it isn't clear he was trying to take the gun away, and didn't hear him saying he would shoot him.
"You better ****ing god damn use it mother ****er, because god damnit I'll take it from you and *inaudible* use *inaudible*"

Then at the 1:11 mark the guy moves his arm up (hitting the barrel/gun) to which the guy pulls it up and away, steps back and fires a warning shot. Then approaches the guy and at 1:15 clearly attempts to take the gun/**** w/ the guy, whatever he is doing ANY person can reasonably make the assumption he means to take the gun and/or harm you now. Then you can see he has his hands around the barrel of the gun and appears to be dragging/pulling it and pushing the guy (attempting to take the gun) enough that the guy holds on and is semi thrown off the porch.



Another *FACT* the man who shot him has not been arrested, charged or anything.
post 1651455653 11-24-2021, 09:20 PM
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why does it sound suppressed when there's no suppressor?
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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post 1651455683 11-24-2021, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
"You better ****ing god damn use it mother ****er, because god damnit I'll take it from you and *inaudible* use inaudible*"
Ah my bad, I was looking too late in the video.

Edit: ye I'm not sure now, given it's Texas.
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post 1651455703 11-24-2021, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By aal04⏩
i dont know about American law, but isnt this similar to Arbery wrestling the gun away?
Being on your own property and dealing with someone who won't leave makes it very different.
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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post 1651455733 11-24-2021, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer⏩
Ah my bad, I was looking too late in the video.
Dw bro, even if you looked you wouldnโ€™t see chit with that 144p quality
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Originally Posted By aal04⏩
i dont know about American law, but isnt this similar to Arbery wrestling the gun away?
Too different of a scenario to compare.
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Originally Posted By FastBack6⏩
Yea people donโ€™t realize that thereโ€™s the US and then thereโ€™s Texas. Thereโ€™s a lot of ways to legally shoot someone there that arenโ€™t legal anywhere else.

Pretty sure they still have the โ€œnight prowlerโ€ law where you can shoot anyone after dark that is on your property attempting to enter any structure/vehicle or steal anything, even if itโ€™s a leaf rake.
My property isnโ€™t worth your life lol
Stay off it.

Fuark I want land.
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What a ****ing scumbag loser. All over some used up woman.


Kyle should have went out and made his own family. Hope he dies in prison.
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
You really should read some laws and look at caselaw in texas, and not whatever liberal ****hole you live in.

here is a fine example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Ho...ng_controversy



You're outmatched here, you're in over your head and you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about. Go back to CCP/China trolling, stay out of actual intellectual/serious threads.





"You better ****ing god damn use it mother ****er, because god damnit I'll take it from you and *inaudible* use *inaudible*"

Then at the 1:11 mark the guy moves his arm up (hitting the barrel/gun) to which the guy pulls it up and away, steps back and fires a warning shot. Then approaches the guy and at 1:15 clearly attempts to take the gun/**** w/ the guy, whatever he is doing ANY person can reasonably make the assumption he means to take the gun and/or harm you now. Then you can see he has his hands around the barrel of the gun and appears to be dragging/pulling it and pushing the guy (attempting to take the gun) enough that the guy holds on and is semi thrown off the porch.



Another *FACT* the man who shot him has not been arrested, charged or anything.
I missed this (bolded) audible. I thought he was telling the step-dad to put his gun away. If he said he was intentionally going to take it and use it on him, that changes everything.
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
You're outmatched here, you're in over your head and you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about. Go back to CCP/China trolling, stay out of actual intellectual/serious threads.

LOL. Its pretty damn sad when you get schooled by a CCP in your own language and in your own laws. And you can't even keep up with the topic at hand.

2 burglars are different from a dad who was not posing any threat. You're pretty dumb for a white guy. Lol

The Kyle Rittenhouse verdict has made rightcels more gun ho than ever. But little do they know that each shooting is just speeding up the eventual civil war that will make whitecels lose all of the land they stole.
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Originally Posted By tunafishha⏩
LOL. Its pretty damn sad when you get schooled by a CCP in your own language and in your own laws. And you can't even keep up with the topic at hand.

2 burglars are different from a dad who was not posing any threat. You're pretty dumb for a white guy. Lol
You didn't read it at all did you? Nor do you have any clue what you're talking about.

The house being 'burglarized' was empty, owner was on vacation/gone. The owner had asked the neighbor to keep an eye on it. The burglars were running through this mans yard to get away, one was shot in the back.

Think, and read... before you post.
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
You didn't read it at all did you? Nor do you have any clue what you're talking about.

The house being 'burglarized' was empty, owner was on vacation/gone. The owner had asked the neighbor to keep an eye on it. The burglars were RUNNING AWAY, they were shot in the back. They were on the neighbors property, not the shooters property.


Think, and read... before you post.
Fuuuuark lol. Alright I wave the white flag.
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The father was not threatening violence at all, literally was threatening subpoenas saying he gets to see the kid at 3:15 and was trying to figure out where the kid was at. He assumed her mother's. He even said he hd the cops on the way to her mom's.

So..

At what point did that guy think it was necessary to retrieve a firearm? Broad daylight, people around, NO threats of violence. Call police then file trespassing. Ask yourself what you would do in those few moments some dude grabs a fireman for no reason. Who is the one being violent and threatening? Dude was a pussy for grabbing it then shooting right at the guy's feet a foot away? You're telling me if someone did that to you you wouldn't try to take it away? You have no clue what would happened if you did or not.

The dumb chit will go to jail.
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This whole thing was fake as fuk, and im surprised no one is talking about that.
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Originally Posted By cadetduke⏩
The father was not threatening violence at all, literally was threatening subpoenas saying he gets to see the kid at 3:15 and was trying to figure out where the kid was at. He assumed her mother's. He even said he hd the cops on the way to her mom's.

So..

At what point did that guy think it was necessary to retrieve a firearm? Broad daylight, people around, NO threats of violence. Call police then file trespassing. Ask yourself what you would do in those few moments some dude grabs a fireman for no reason. Who is the one being violent and threatening? Dude was a pussy for grabbing it then shooting right at the guy's feet a foot away? You're telling me if someone did that to you you wouldn't try to take it away? You have no clue what would happened if you did or not.

The dumb chit will go to jail.
Bro I'm not disagreeing with you, as I don't think most would. The dad seemed very reasonable until the point he attempts to take the gun and says he'll take it and use it.

Him having a firearm on his property in his possession means nothing, he has EVERY legal right to do that. The dude held the gun and told him to leave his property. That's not being 'violent and threatening'... He's standing on his property with a gun telling a trespasser to leave... The dude then proceeds to approach him and try to act intimidating/threatening after verbal threats bro.

I 100% would have tried to take it from them if they shot at my feet, but if someone pulls a gun on me on their property and tells me to leave? I'm not going to approach them and threaten them, I'm going to walk away and leave.

He won't go to jail. (This is Texas)
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Originally Posted By cadetduke⏩
The father was not threatening violence at all, literally was threatening subpoenas saying he gets to see the kid at 3:15 and was trying to figure out where the kid was at. He assumed her mother's. He even said he hd the cops on the way to her mom's.

So..

At what point did that guy think it was necessary to retrieve a firearm? Broad daylight, people around, NO threats of violence. Call police then file trespassing. Ask yourself what you would do in those few moments some dude grabs a fireman for no reason. Who is the one being violent and threatening? Dude was a pussy for grabbing it then shooting right at the guy's feet a foot away? You're telling me if someone did that to you you wouldn't try to take it away? You have no clue what would happened if you did or not.

The dumb chit will go to jail.
We'll see, the ex-wife is a State District Judge



And the killer is a Lubbock 2nd Amendment Coalition leader whatever that means (I guess muh 2rd amendment rights activist)
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
Him having a firearm on his property in his possession means nothing, he has EVERY legal right to do that. The dude held the gun and told him to leave his property. That's not being 'violent and threatening'... He's standing on his property with a gun telling a trespasser to leave... The dude then proceeds to approach him and try to act intimidating/threatening after verbal threats bro.

I 100% would have tried to take it from them if they shot at my feet, butif someone pulls a gun on me on their property and tells me to leave? I'm not going to approach them and threaten them, I'm going to walk away and leave.

He won't go to jail. (This is Texas)



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Originally Posted By JustiNtense⏩
This whole thing was fake as fuk, and im surprised no one is talking about that.
lol, it did seem quite fake. i thought the shotgun sounded off but that may be the ****ty recording device
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
Thats the ****ed up part, honestly the woman/mom is ****ing responsible for this.
The sad part is there's no way to directly hold her responsible.
Originally Posted By ooph⏩
I think the dude was being pretty reasonable (threatening court, and not physical harm or anything else), until the point he told the guy he'll take the gun and shoot him w/ it.
Originally Posted By nn586⏩
that dude executed an unarmed father wanting his child

hope he feels good about himself

he also escalated the entire situation
Originally Posted By cadetduke⏩
The father was not threatening violence at all, literally was threatening subpoenas saying he gets to see the kid at 3:15 and was trying to figure out where the kid was at. He assumed her mother's. He even said he hd the cops on the way to her mom's.

So..

At what point did that guy think it was necessary to retrieve a firearm? Broad daylight, people around, NO threats of violence. Call police then file trespassing. Ask yourself what you would do in those few moments some dude grabs a fireman for no reason. Who is the one being violent and threatening? Dude was a pussy for grabbing it then shooting right at the guy's feet a foot away? You're telling me if someone did that to you you wouldn't try to take it away? You have no clue what would happened if you did or not.

The dumb chit will go to jail.
That's why I think the step-dad could get charged not with murder, but a lesser crime, maybe aggravated assault, or something. He clearly escalated it since the bio-dad was unarmed and threatened civil court only.

They are both guilty.

The step-dad for bringing a rifle to a civilian matter.

And the bio-dad for escalating it one step further by threatening to take it and use it on him.

But I also don't think the bio-dad believed step-dad would carry through with it. He must have thought it was a bluff. I wonder if he truly thought step-dad would carry out the threat, he would have backed down and went back to his car threatening civil court again.
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second angle here (can't find good share link to post video directly), along with a statement:

โ€œIt is my opinion, because of their knowledge of all the facts and the Texas Castle Doctrine and having done a thorough job, LPD knew this was a justifiable homicide,โ€ Guinn said.

โ€œThey knew they lacked probable cause, and did not arrest him,โ€ Guinn said. Probable cause is a standard of evidence required for the filing of charges.
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