lol @ people who don't know who OP is (srs)

MAN-O-MAN, the saltiness in this thread is amazing!

daily reminder that you can be 48 and a billionaire but still not have enough money to buy being 15 and in love

So what are you saying? You gonna go around check everybody's chit out? One garage at a time?

I kind of figured.

Still mind-blowing that you can drive a Lambo around for a year and profit from the experience lol!

Streets closed pizza boy OP

I'm not wealthy and know next to nothing about those cars, so I can only speak from life wisdom not necessarily the value of that investment, but...

If it were me, this is the route I would go. As a father and as someone who made the switch from cars to motorcycles to spend time riding with my dad, you will not regret that time. There are days where I wish I had a weekend driver, but I have made irreplaceable memories with my dad, had my son on the back a few times, and the wife loves it more too. The memories of that shared time is worth way more. So, if it were me, I'd go the route that gets you and your son in the garage building, not just a car, but memories.

Just my 2-cents.

im with op on this

I too found the Huracan a tad gauche for my palette. Mclarens are so nouveau riche, 'Rari's are passe

got my eye on a little 08 Corolla instead

I have been keeping an eye on 720s as well. I believe for around $200k used its a great car for the money. Problem is it will continue to drop like a rock and I would never buy one close to new.

R8 or I8 those would be my choices if i had op's budget or even the NSX

720s are more common than Hondas around here (don't even have a Mclaren dealer here). There's a local car spotting group - they're all tired of the Mclarens lol

Yea the Ferrari network is VERY tightly controlled. You can get what you want if you pay your dues and play by their rules. But if you get an allocation for a car and sell without their blessing, you will never buy a new Ferrari again. They also like you to be brand loyal. I was flattered to be invited to join. Not expecting it at all. I am pretty active in our local car community and I got an invitation for a VIP day at the deanship. They had a nice lunch spread and told us essentially how the 'game' works. Normally you cant even spec a car for your first purchase. You usually have to buy something they are stuck with on the floor or a used one. But they offered to let me cut in line and go right to ordering, to my exact spec, a car. I am still thinking about it, but dont know that I want to hold on to cars 2 years. I have been changing out cars in less than a year usually. Just for the fun and newness. But it is a tempting offer.Just as I have said in another thread, cars and 'stuff' should not be a life goal. Again, my advice. It is fun for sure, but happiness for me comes from a great family and friends. I would give up every 'toy' and go back to driving my 2006 nissan titan truck and be just as happy. Not trying to preach, but I spent the early part of my life chasing 'MOAR' and never really appreciated all the great things that the present day has to offer. Just a shift in perspective for me and glad I was almost killed in 2009.I was in construction till the downturn in 09. I invested in realestate and for the past 10 years I design custom homes. The latter started out slow, but things are good. I dont make the kind of money that used to when I had 50 employees and 2 businesses, but life is simple and nice. I work from my home the past 10 years. No employees, no headaches. Just me. Give me the balance in life I needed. Sure I have less 'stuff', but no regrets at all!Quite the opposite. TODAY is the time to start your way in the world. The INSANE opportunities out there for ANYONE! The influx of technology make it possible for so many possibilities. I am now in my grove of life. But if I were a young kid today, I could easily see so many opportunities to do FAR FAR better than I ever did. Internet, tech, gig economy, AMAZING and limitless rewards are all out there for those who see the potential.You are right that money does not make you happy. I know quite a few wealthy people that are miserable. I am lucky enough to be married to my high school girlfriend and first love. Married 20 years, and yes she is still hot. Two great kids. Life is good and at times I wonder how I got so lucky. I see so many broken families and people with terrible wives. My wife is literally a saint. She is 1000x better than I could ever be as a human. She has motivated me to be the man I am today. It is easy to live life when you wake up everyday still in love without question. I acknowledge that that is rare and it is the thing I cherish the most in my life. SRS
Yep, done right you can drive many exotics for 'free'. There is that Indian dude who sells seminars 'Exotic Car Hacks'. I dont like his stuff, but he sells "methods" to people on how to do it. But it can be done for sure. Now when the economy goes to crap, this will change, but there is always a hustle. The guy uses financing a lot and I dont believe in financing 'toys'. So for me the math is pretty simple. Also being a 'cash' buyer makes the buying so much easier. No guarantees in life, but if you are smart about it you surly can drive a lambo for cheaper than say buying a new BMW.Yep, 100%. I am primarily going to let my son decide what we do. He loves McLaren and I told him for a few years I would never buy one. My supercharger for the lotus is coming tomorrow and we will be tearing it down and redoing a bunch of stuff. WHen all done it will have the power to weight of a Performante. But this car journey with my son is why I am doing all of this. We have made tons of memories. My son at 14 drove Virginia International Raceway a few months ago. I will never forget this! The first time he ever drove a car in his life, I put him on the track in my 860 hp Huracan. These are memories we will always have!





You must be watching the market pre-covidI will buy 10 720s right now at that price if you can show me where they are. There is a 18 w/ 63k miles which just had an engine replaced for 265. For anything worth buying you are looking at 280-310. I also wont buy one out of warranty and McLaren is only 3 years, so that probably puts me 310 and over for what I am looking for. There are no 'bargain' Mclarens out there, and with their known issues for being very expensive to fix, I would not look for one on these cars.

Yes true, fair I was looking pre covid. Once Covid hit and the market went nuts (I gauged that off of the pricing of my LP640) I stopped considering anything. Even then there were not cars sub $200k. They were in the $230k range and I was thinking only a matter of time until they touch $200k. I agree its a great car, but Im not sure I would shell out $310k for a used 720s. They are many in my town which causes me to believe they wont hold value long term......but its certainly a lot of car for the money.

Yep I have come to the conclusion that I like changing cars out after 8 months to a year. So bought right, I can buy a 720s and experience it and sell it before it takes a huge hit. The other end, is if I built the ultima, that would be a car I keep. In a few years, all cars will change. I love my lotus, almost more than the Huracan for it's rawness and the experience it gives driving it. There is no spectacle like driving the Lambo, but that gets old quickly. I love the H for it's lines and nose bleed performance of the supercharged version. The only thing faster on the street is a 765lt and I can take on to about 80 from a dig. I know about Plaids. To me that is not a consideration.

I was going to spec a STO, which would be a nice car to keep, but my gut is everyone and their brother will be ordering STO's. I was thinking about SVJ's but they are trending towards 1,000,000 now and I am just not spending that much on a car. I want to drive whatever I get so it has to be reasonable. So I have narrowed it down to buying a new or almost new 720 and it wont matter if I put 3k miles on it since when I sell it will probably only have 5-6k and be in warranty still. OR....Build an ultima. First world problems, I know. Car world is crazy right now.

Mirin op. Did you sell you’re Btc when it went over 58k?

Never have sold any crypto. I am a hodler all the way. Mined in 2013. Accumulated though this past year. Gained and lost so much money, I am numb to it. Wont sell until it is 'life changing'. I took a real gamble this year, and put several hundred k in on top of what I had previously. Up to that point, I had spent about 10k in mining back in 13 and had just over 5 btc. Not a bad DCA. But this year, I decided to actually start buying crypto. I bought from 6k up to 14 and then stopped. When I sold my Gallardo, I put all that money buying from 40 all the way up to 58. Figured it I really believed in this crap I ought to put my money where my mouth is. Hit the .01% of top wallet tier so that was my goal.

It will either be really good, or a really good story to say how I once "had" a bunch of money. No risk, no reward. If it goes to zero it will suck, but I see this as the single biggest opportunity of my life.

Your logic makes complete sense. I totally udnerstand on the Huracan as well. A beast of a car and checks off all kinds of boxes but for me, it never felt raw enough. As I get older, I actually dont care to go as fast as I used to want to (picked up an 08SL to send to UGR at one point) but now I realized I just need to "feel" like I am going fast vs actually going blistering fast. That is why the older cars are better suited for my needs and there were not as many made/mass produced. I also understand the histeria part, which is why I typically dont do car meets anymore, take the cars out on off times (Sunday mornings/roads empty). I told my wife, bury me in my Lincoln, the rest of the cars can be sold. Looking forward to hearing and reading about what you decide on. Cant go wrong with either decision (different experiences for each) or maybe get both

Crazy how similarly we think. Earlier this year I took the proceeds I made selling one of my rental prosperities and putting it all in BTC and ETH. Up until that point I had $30-40k in but thought, it makes complete sense (coming from the tech world), lets see where this goes in 5-7 years.

GL on the next car OP. Any experience with the new C8? I have always wanted to get a later model Gallardo, but i wonder if it makes more sense to just go for a lightly used c8 once they drop down a bit in price. Seems like they are very comparable in performance, just not in the "status" area...which i don't really care about. Glad to see you are a HODL'er. I spent way too much on ADA this month when it was in that $1.25 range. Wish i would have hopped into SOL and AVAX when they were still dirt cheap.

Yep. No risk no reward. It was hard to part with 'real' money and buy crypto, but I look at it as a bet. I had actually forgot about the crypto I had from 2013, then 2017 happened, and I was into the 6 figures. Then all back to sh!t. So I started crunching numbers and figuring out what I could spend and what DCA that would put me at. In the end I look at it as an opportunity for me and my kids to build generational wealth. If it goes to nothing, then I lost a few hundred k. If it goes the other direction, I dont think we will ever have a concern for money nor my kids. I can lose it all and it wont change anything about my life. Cashing out for a million or two seems silly when the payout can be so much more....
I dont want to sound like a snob when I say this, but I hate the c8. I wanted to love it so much since I was a corvette guy in my youth. But I dont like it at all. I will give it this...you cant argue with it's performance or value at all. I just hate the design of the car. I would rather drive a slower car that I loved than a faster one that I did not like everything about. I call the C8 a "civic type r". It just looks like it is trying too hard. It looks like it was designed by a committee of engineers in a room voting on different areas of the car. No cohesiveness of the design.

Many reasons not to buy a C8 for me. In a few years they will be cranking out 25,000 per year and all these guys buying over retail will hate the decisions they made. Corvette brand is having a hard time shaking the "New_balance" buyers. Even the Z06 is great technology, but it is in a car that has no soul. You see a 10 year old ferrari or lambo, and it is exciting. It is exciting because the designs are timeless. There are no 'bad angles'. With the C8 you have to struggle to find a 'good' angle. I wish I like it, but I dont.

So in the lower 130's I would buy an LP gallardo. 09 forward. Same running gear as the R8 and more reliable than the Pre-Lp. But I prefer the sounds of the Pre-Lp even firing engine, I would steer you towrads the reliability of the Lp forward. Pre-Lp clutch replacement is common in under 10k miles. Lp-forward, 30 or even 50k miles clutches will last.

Having the 'fastest' car is not where your satisfaction will come from. Speed is a one trick pony. There are so many other areas that bring enjoyment. If you did not want to go Lambo, I think a R8 is the perfect 'starter' exotic. FANTASTIC car. Even the Gen 1's. They are ending production of the R8 so my guess is it would be easy to buy the right one, drive for a few years and probably sell it for what you paid.

In the end, do what you wish, but I would not even consider a C8. I literally would not take one for free. If a condition was I had to keep and not sell it and drive it. I would not want it.

This thread has two of the biggest money moggers on the misc in it.

My personal opinion and some will argue. I know MANY supercar owners. I dont know any that finance. So all the internet gurus telling you money advice and 'cheap money', investing the cash, etc. Well that may all be good on paper. But REAL people who are successful in life as a whole done finance toys. Buy what you can afford. Debt is the killer of gaining personal wealth. I am a zero debt believer. The only possible debt I would consider is a mortgage and that only at the level that benefits reducing your tax basis based on income level.

And you could say I know a few guys who own these cars, so take it at that.

Same page. There was another thread a few days ago where a young miscer asked for advice for future. Of course I gave the standard advice of start early, be consistent, be passionate about what you do but I added to the fact that there will be a few times in your life where an opportunity will show itself and you have to be willing to bet big to win/lose big. I feel like this is one of those times. I feel the same way about NFTs but honestly am just starting to dive deeper into that world, where to place the money etc.

do it boyo, that model looking outdated anyway.

Get yourself a SHERP. It builds testosterone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pax6d2Pbnk

You should do a misc giveaway and make sure I win it.

So this wont get much traction here on the MISC as it pretty much goes against the grain of what is so deeply embedded here. But if you want success and happiness in life, surround yourself with positivity. Rid your life of people who are negative.

That does not mean you cant get on a forum, but be YOU on the forum the way YOU are. Find the positive things in life. Two people can look at the exact same situation and see totally different predicaments.

In 09, I was almost killed. Left with a broken neck and traumatic brain injury with partial amnesia and short term memory loss. On top of that all my businesses went under. 15 years of work gone.

I look at that one moment as the single best experience of my life. It truly was.


Life is good guys... Your world is what you perceive it and NEVER overlook the value of others. It is people that will make your life a success. NOT you. Be the person that other people want to help. The person other people want to be around. Life is truly amazing.

This is cool and I like the way he puts this.

one of best spec huracans ive seen man, will be sad to see it go. im letting my svr go too, got to drive it for 7 months and made $2k on top.
were moving to miami so need the free cash for a nice place.

will prob get a 993 c4s when im ready again, for now no rush

i may disagree with OP here on his sentiments though. If you buy the right car, even at 84 mo 3.99% apr you can drive it for a year and sell it for break even/profit you otherwise would not have if buying cash. that way you can take the $250k you were gonna drop and honestly just put it in SPY and pay your car payment with the monthly profits and then make it all back when you sell.

Not sure if you are actually 33, but lots of people think that way who have not been through a major economic retraction. I have never carried debt. In the early 2000's, I had many people that I knew in the same business as me tell me how dumb I was being. They maxed out their morgtages which usually could do a cash out re-fi and pull 200-300k out at closing, they were levering in properties and stocks.

Then the collapse came and stocks and properties lost 30% or more in a very short time. Lots of people I knew lost everything. Guys that were already millionaires several times over, who did not need to borrow, but were consumed with trying to extract every dollar out of every purchase by leveraging, found themselves in a hole where they had to go bankrupt.

I think we are very close to major economic reset. I do think there is validity to what you are saying, but I will say that most people who I know who have already built wealth, dont finance toys. Not saying it is wrong, but just not what I would do. Certainly if we all had crystal balls it would be an easy call. But having lived though 2008,9, 10 , 11, 12, I dont like sticking my neck out too far.