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post 1653278423 12-27-2021, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Go look at the bills strength of schedule. Top 5 easiest. Nobody is using that to qualify Allen's stats. Only with Lamar
The difference is that Allen's stats reflect the quality of his competition. Lamars do not. His 13 INTs are not because Dobbins is out, he was not playing well all year and his 4th quarter comebacks against garbage competition don't wipe out the remainder of his body of work.
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post 1653280153 12-27-2021, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
The difference is that Allen's stats reflect the quality of his competition. Lamars do not. His 13 INTs are not because Dobbins is out, he was not playing well all year and his 4th quarter comebacks against garbage competition don't wipe out the remainder of his body of work.
Yea I've said if you ignore the first half of the season and only look at like Lamars last 3 or 4 games, the wheels came off for sure.

But if you dont do that and you take into account the entire season, he played great and was in the mvp conversation at the mid way point for sure. That counts.

To say he wasnt playing well all year is just a complete lie. If you would say, you are clearly extremly biased against him

And just as a note on picks, stats decieve. Allen is top 5 in the league in turnover worthy plays. He hasnt been punished for his chit passes as badly as some players, but hes made them. Even juust yestrerday he threw a potentially game losing interception on the last drive the NE player dropped it.
post 1653280693 12-27-2021, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
It has nothing to do with his race, its the constant Jackson haters who i believe hate him because of his race.

He's done everything his haters said he couldn't. He beat the chiefs, had several comebacks where he threw and came back from behind. Won mvp. Won a playoff game.

Allen won the fan vote for pro bowl, Jackson won among players and coaches. That says it all. Jackson is better than he gets credit for for reasons unknown
My post was for gaydawg. In which case everything is about race since he wishes he was a black guy.
post 1653288783 12-27-2021, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
The bills were expected to be even better than they are though. The bills have underachieved and allen had some chit games that was a big reason for that.

Jackson was a strong mvp candidate the first half of the year. The entire season matters
Lamar MVP candidate

LMAOOOOOOOOO
post 1653291933 12-27-2021, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Yea I've said if you ignore the first half of the season and only look at like Lamars last 3 or 4 games, the wheels came off for sure.

But if you dont do that and you take into account the entire season, he played great and was in the mvp conversation at the mid way point for sure. That counts.

To say he wasnt playing well all year is just a complete lie. If you would say, you are clearly extremly biased against him

And just as a note on picks, stats decieve. Allen is top 5 in the league in turnover worthy plays. He hasnt been punished for his chit passes as badly as some players, but hes made them. Even juust yestrerday he threw a potentially game losing interception on the last drive the NE player dropped it.
You keep saying it matters he was in the MVP discussion at the midpoint. So was Allen. Allen kept improving. Lamar got worse and missed games because tummy ache. That's not Pro Bowl caliber.
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post 1653345983 12-28-2021, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
What Lamar has done with the most injured team in the league deserves some recognition.. that team shouldn't be in playoff contention at all. It's amazing that they are
Originally Posted By Jaydawg08⏩
The Ravens are the most injured team in the NFL and it isn't close. There is a reason they are 8-6 and that reason is Lamar. It's literally Lamar or bust on the offensive side of the ball. He def understands this and has been pressing on some throws, and needs to not try and be superman on every play, but there is no doubt that this carry job by him is up there as far as elite

They have 22 players on IR, and have a combined missed of over 81 games.. JK Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Ronnie Stanely, Marcus Peters. these players were all out basically at the beginning of the year and they are all cornerstones for this franchise
You make stuff up a lot, so this is nothing new.

They are not the “most injured team and it isn’t even close.” Here’s a list that actually shows you how hurt teams are (as of two weeks ago):




Garoppolo is dealing with a more injured team and has a higher QB rating and total QBR than Lamar. Surely you think Garoppolo deserves some “recognition”, right?

Also wild that the Ravens average over 24 points without Lamar. Granted it’s a small sample size, but still that’s more points than when he’s playing. Yet it’s “Lamar or bust” lol ok
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post 1653361653 12-29-2021, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
You keep saying it matters he was in the MVP discussion at the midpoint. So was Allen. Allen kept improving. Lamar got worse and missed games because tummy ache. That's not Pro Bowl caliber.
Allen was not even close to mvp at halfway point. He was extremely up and down at that point, the main narrative was regression. He has been up and down all season

I feel like some people didn't actually watch the bills this year and are just looking at stats or a narrative. Allen has had a good season but people have been trying to force him into the mvp conversation all year when he hasn't deserved it. Sunday was a signature performance but he has not played that way most of the season
post 1653361803 12-29-2021, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted By Blasting⏩
You make stuff up a lot, so this is nothing new.

They are not the “most injured team and it isn’t even close.” Here’s a list that actually shows you how hurt teams are (as of two weeks ago):




Garoppolo is dealing with a more injured team and has a higher QB rating and total QBR than Lamar. Surely you think Garoppolo deserves some “recognition”, right?

Also wild that the Ravens average over 24 points without Lamar. Granted it’s a small sample size, but still that’s more points than when he’s playing. Yet it’s “Lamar or bust” lol ok
Everything about the ravens being the most injured and Lamar playing well applies to first half of the season. At that point it was true that basically the entire backfield and their top corners were all hurt and Lamar was doing everything and they were winning.
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