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Underrated hedge against inflation? (No crypto, stocks, real estate etc)
01-07-2022, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
Imo the market is gonna tank, it’s all but done srsStocks and real estate are fantastic. Also, owning a business.
01-07-2022, 06:52 PM
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You could flip exotic cars and flip luxury watches. If you study the market for cars and watches and you learn how to invest in them and find good deals, you could probably double or triple your money every flip. Look up exotic car hacks and watch trading academy
01-07-2022, 06:57 PM
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I can’t see a good gun ever going down in price
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01-07-2022, 07:01 PM
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01-07-2022, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Such as? and before you say real estate remember houses are going for double what they were worth in 2019 there is absolutely no way to buy one rn without feeling like a total cuckI don't know why you'd own something like cash, gold, crypto, etc rather than assets that produce income and especially assets that can produce more income by passing inflation (at least some of it) on to their customers
Really don't think you'll find a better hedge against inflation
Really don't think you'll find a better hedge against inflation
01-07-2022, 07:34 PM
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Just buy stocks in strong companies with bulletproof balance sheets and pricing power.
Really not much more to it - everything will correct big time very soon, just waiting for the first domino to fall.
Financials (Berkshire) are also an incredible hedge against inflation with their market exposure (real estate, insurance, etc).
Really not much more to it - everything will correct big time very soon, just waiting for the first domino to fall.
Financials (Berkshire) are also an incredible hedge against inflation with their market exposure (real estate, insurance, etc).
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01-07-2022, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted By knightofday⏩
Investing rule #1:Imo the market is gonna tank, it’s all but done srs
Don’t listen to anyone who says they know what the stock market will do.
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01-07-2022, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
Do you remember what happened the last time the Fed legit tried to raise interest rates?Check my post history on the subject of economics, then check yourself.
The elite gameplan is to make dummies believe lies that sound true.
If you fully invest, fed raises rate, workers go back - deflation.
The elite gameplan is to make dummies believe lies that sound true.
If you fully invest, fed raises rate, workers go back - deflation.
Hint: It almost crashed the economy.
We're in a much, much worse state now than we were then. There's no way in hell they ever raise rates again.
Know how communist countries live off the wealth of the rich until they devolve into something like Venezuela where people are starving?
The Fed is currently doing that with the wealth of the American people.
Just LOL if you think they're ever going to raise rates. They're going to continue to bleed the American people dry until the dollar, and in turn the massive amount of debt in this country, is worthless.
That's the end game.
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01-07-2022, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
thing is..it's still dependent the president's word. Look at Nixon and how quickly it wasn't backed by gold anymore. Just own gold at this point.If the dollar were gold-backed, I'd buy that.
The Fed can just make the printers go brrrrrrrr.
QE killed deflation.
Should it happen? Yes. Will it happen? Not while the Fed is around.
The Fed can just make the printers go brrrrrrrr.
QE killed deflation.
Should it happen? Yes. Will it happen? Not while the Fed is around.
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01-07-2022, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
this guy financesDo you remember what happened the last time the Fed legit tried to raise interest rates?
Hint: It almost crashed the economy.
We're in a much, much worse state now than we were then. There's no way in hell they ever raise rates again.
Know how communist countries live off the wealth of the rich until they devolve into something like Venezuela where people are starving?
The Fed is currently doing that with the wealth of the American people.
Just LOL if you think they're ever going to raise rates. They're going to continue to bleed the American people dry until the dollar, and in turn the massive amount of debt in this country, is worthless.
That's the end game.
Hint: It almost crashed the economy.
We're in a much, much worse state now than we were then. There's no way in hell they ever raise rates again.
Know how communist countries live off the wealth of the rich until they devolve into something like Venezuela where people are starving?
The Fed is currently doing that with the wealth of the American people.
Just LOL if you think they're ever going to raise rates. They're going to continue to bleed the American people dry until the dollar, and in turn the massive amount of debt in this country, is worthless.
That's the end game.
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01-07-2022, 08:40 PM
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S&P 500 which averages about 10% interest every year since it's conception is pretty much a hedge, also like 80% or so of people in the market can't beat it's return according to some random guy I believe but did not verify. Huge is true though that so many plebs would be better off investing in the S&P
however with recent inflation, certain things like houses going up by 25% year over year and gas 50%
however with recent inflation, certain things like houses going up by 25% year over year and gas 50%
01-07-2022, 08:48 PM
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This "wait for the market crash and buy cheap properties" is pure bullsht. When in history has the value of land significantly decreased? Even when it does decrease a little bit it is still higher than it was 5 years previously. Also, all the huge corporations wouldn't be buying property if they know they will have to sell at a loss soon. If this mythical crash did happen do you know what will happen? All the big corporations will buy even more and every person who has been stocking cash will buy it all up as well, therefore preventing any sort of crash to begin with.
I can only think of gold and silver as hedges against inflation as they retain value in and of themselves and do not depend upon the dollar. We are all fked regardless if there is any sort of significant crash.
I can only think of gold and silver as hedges against inflation as they retain value in and of themselves and do not depend upon the dollar. We are all fked regardless if there is any sort of significant crash.
01-07-2022, 09:14 PM
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01-07-2022, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted By p100⏩
2007/8 crash was a ****ing goldmine for exactly this sort of thing. My BiL bought a pallet factory and house on a joint property for 110K, turned the pallet factory into a mechanic and car storage business, rented the house for 10 years then sold them both off last year for 500K. There were classic cars that would fetch 40-50K with for sale signs on them asking for 10K. Without the 'enhanced' UE benefits of the last 2 years you would have seen the same thing again and it would have been glorious.This "wait for the market crash and buy cheap properties" is pure bullsht. When in history has the value of land significantly decreased? Even when it does decrease a little bit it is still higher than it was 5 years previously. Also, all the huge corporations wouldn't be buying property if they know they will have to sell at a loss soon. If this mythical crash did happen do you know what will happen? All the big corporations will buy even more and every person who has been stocking cash will buy it all up as well, therefore preventing any sort of crash to begin with.
I can only think of gold and silver as hedges against inflation as they retain value in and of themselves and do not depend upon the dollar. We are all fked regardless if there is any sort of significant crash.
I can only think of gold and silver as hedges against inflation as they retain value in and of themselves and do not depend upon the dollar. We are all fked regardless if there is any sort of significant crash.
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01-08-2022, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By jafomofo⏩
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Treasury inflation-protected securities (TIPS) are another alternative
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01-08-2022, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By floridamancan⏩
I believe energy and financials tend to be the best performers in a high-inflation environment. People still need to drive, still need to power and heat/cool their homes, still want access to funds, etcSuch as? and before you say real estate remember houses are going for double what they were worth in 2019 there is absolutely no way to buy one rn without feeling like a total cuck
In consumer goods, strong brands and necessities (groceries etc) are probably the leaders in terms of having pricing power. A company like Apple has a strong af ability to pass on price increases and people will happily gobble it up.
That's off the top of my head anyways, not an expert in this category by any means
01-08-2022, 12:43 PM
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10-15 year old small work trucks. Toyota Tacoma, mazda b2200, etc...
Edit lol at people listing bonds and metals as underrated. They are definitely not.
Edit lol at people listing bonds and metals as underrated. They are definitely not.
01-08-2022, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
So what are we supposed to do buy a bunch of groceries and gas then turn around and sell them? Maybe I’m just a dumb redneck but the only way to invest in energy I could think of would be to buy the proper tools to cut and sell firewoodI believe energy and financials tend to be the best performers in a high-inflation environment. People still need to drive, still need to power and heat/cool their homes, still want access to funds, etc
In consumer goods, strong brands and necessities (groceries etc) are probably the leaders in terms of having pricing power. A company like Apple has a strong af ability to pass on price increases and people will happily gobble it up.
That's off the top of my head anyways, not an expert in this category by any means
In consumer goods, strong brands and necessities (groceries etc) are probably the leaders in terms of having pricing power. A company like Apple has a strong af ability to pass on price increases and people will happily gobble it up.
That's off the top of my head anyways, not an expert in this category by any means
01-09-2022, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted By DivineMasculine⏩
If only this comes true. Cash is fukin trash currently!Cash is king during these times, hold the line. Things will be cheap soon (end of 2022) and then you buy (equities, real estate etc).
01-09-2022, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted By floridamancan⏩
There are ETF's that cover those things. Vanguard has them for financials, utilities, energy, tech, consumer good, etc. You could either buy the ETF that covers those sector or buy the companies stock directly.So what are we supposed to do buy a bunch of groceries and gas then turn around and sell them? Maybe I’m just a dumb redneck but the only way to invest in energy I could think of would be to buy the proper tools to cut and sell firewood
But here's the thing, if you compare the ETFs that cover all of these various sectors Vs the S&P 500 etf VOO. VOO outperforms them all over a long term basis (and over a short term for most of them).
Its boring and its not sexy at all but its pretty hard to out-perform the S&P 500 over a long term basis.
01-09-2022, 10:43 AM
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NNN property with a long term tenant that’s recession and pandemic proof, fast food or coffee etc. Find one with a good cap rate and sit on it for a couple years before 1031 exchange into something else.
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08-05-2022, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted By lockdev⏩
Lol I can't believe how hard I was trying to save you people lolThis is horrible advice.
Look at any country that has ever had a period of hyperinflation.
What happened to their currency?
These countries did not experience a magical period of deflation. With central banks around, this will definitely not happen.
Cash is not an investment. It's a currency. It's nothing more than a means an end.
I feel bad for anyone holding cash right now. The Fed has been, and will continue to use the wealth that lies in the dollar as its personal savings account to bail equity markets out when they fall.
TL;DR The Fed holds the cards, and they've proven time and time again that they will sacrifice the dollar for equity markets.
Look at any country that has ever had a period of hyperinflation.
What happened to their currency?
These countries did not experience a magical period of deflation. With central banks around, this will definitely not happen.
Cash is not an investment. It's a currency. It's nothing more than a means an end.
I feel bad for anyone holding cash right now. The Fed has been, and will continue to use the wealth that lies in the dollar as its personal savings account to bail equity markets out when they fall.
TL;DR The Fed holds the cards, and they've proven time and time again that they will sacrifice the dollar for equity markets.
Just goes to show, you can't save anyone
You have to save yourself
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