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post 1655068403 01-26-2022, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By Olympia2018⏩
Stop it you’re scaring him!

Libs dont think they just do what they’re told to do when voting. I’m honestly shocked how they try to defend them on things they have no clue what they’re talking about.


Wonder if These Libtards are signing up to fight Bidens war he just created
What a miserable life to see everything through a partisan political lens. Srs.



Still claiming your gf is a nurse turned MD, even though that isn't a thing and 2 different schooling paths?

Lmaooooo.
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post 1655068423 01-26-2022, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
So I did some quick scrolling... most of these "severe reactions" don't even have a name attached to them. They are like screenshots of a text message that read "my former co worker died from vaccine." Then when there I'd an actual name, like Maddie de Garay, it falsely claims she is a quadriplegic and attributes it to the vax, when in fact she isn't paralyzed at all and her official diagnosis is some sort of anxiety disorder.


Skepticalhippo.jpeg.
yes, you're right, every single one of those tweets are fake news and false. myocarditis and any adverse reactions from the vaccine is impossible. if it is possible, it's less chance from the vaccine than covid for everybody. if they feel any heart issues a few days after taking the vaccine, it's clearly in their head and not the vaccine. they're technically unvaccinated so probably covid got them. we don't need to work on the safety profile of these vaccines, change policies surrounding them, stratify at risk age groups vs benefits received because it's safe for everybody. also VAERS data is completely bunk even though many studies, including ones from the CDC use it.
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post 1655068603 01-26-2022, 04:46 PM
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I wasn't going to visit this thread. Srs.

But I did. And are you watching this video at the link? Attorney giving testimony claiming that his information was given under oath? Mentions Project Salus.



My impression is that this information is from 3 insider experts who have access to the data being collected and have given testimony under oath at risk of perjury.

- miscarriages increased by 300% above the 5 year average

- almost a 300% increase in cancer above the 5 year average

- over a 1000% increase in neurological issues [863,000 in one year, 10X the usual number]

- while Fauci and friends were claiming that 99% of the hospitalized were unvaccinated they had data showing that 71% of cases and 60% of hospitalization were for fully vaccinated people

The only thing not too hard to verify about Project Salus is that it is an AI program being run by DARPA. This appears to be the 9/28 document referred to in the video clip:

https://dreddymd.files.wordpress.com...21_09_28-2.pdf
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post 1655068853 01-26-2022, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Same reason you get chills, cold sweats, achy joints, and a fever after a flu shot?

Notsureifsrs?
You get the flu shot as well? Do you get off on treating your shoulder like a pin cushion?
post 1655069023 01-26-2022, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
I wasn't going to visit this thread. Srs.

But I did. And are you watching this video at the link? Attorney giving testimony claiming that his information was given under oath? Mentions Project Salus.



My impression is that this information is from 3 insider experts who have access to the data being collected and have given testimony under oath at risk of perjury.

- miscarriages increased by 300% above the 5 year average

- almost a 300% increase in cancer above the 5 year average

- over a 1000% increase in neurological issues [863,000 in one year, 10X the usual number]

- while Fauci and friends were claiming that 99% of the hospitalized were unvaccinated they had data showing that 71% of cases and 60% of hospitalization were for fully vaccinated people

The only thing not too hard to verify about Project Salus is that it is an AI program being run by DARPA. This appears to be the 9/28 document referred to in the video clip:

https://dreddymd.files.wordpress.com...21_09_28-2.pdf
Doesn't claim to be under oath. It's actually carefully worded to purposefully mislead. I believe the exact verbiage is something like "this is information we INTEND to submit under threat of perjury. He isn't under oath and that isn't even a courtroom.

Even if he were under oath, which he isn't, perjury is only applicable when knowingly giving false statements under oath. It doesn't mean what said under oath is true. Dude could have bad numbers and not know it.

However doesn't matter, cause he isn't under oath. The question I'd ask is, why purposefully mislead?? Reminds me of all the crazy claims trumps lawyers would make at town halls and what not, that somehow would be omitted from every official court document.
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post 1655069303 01-26-2022, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
yes, you're right, every single one of those tweets are fake news and false. myocarditis and any adverse reactions from the vaccine is impossible. if it is possible, it's less chance from the vaccine than covid for everybody. if they feel any heart issues a few days after taking the vaccine, it's clearly in their head and not the vaccine. they're technically unvaccinated so probably covid got them. we don't need to work on the safety profile of these vaccines, change policies surrounding them, stratify at risk age groups vs benefits received because it's safe for everybody. also VAERS data is completely bunk even though many studies, including ones from the CDC use it.
gtfo of here with this sarcasm.

The vaccines are safe and effective. I hear it all the time on TV and the radio.
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Ah, yes...twitter the most reliable source for accurate information.
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post 1655069353 01-26-2022, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Doesn't claim to be under oath. It's actually carefully worded to purposefully mislead. I believe the exact verbiage is something like "this is information we INTEND to submit under threat of perjury. He isn't under oath and that isn't even a courtroom.

Even if he were under oath, which he isn't, perjury is only applicable when knowingly giving false statements under oath. It doesn't mean what said under oath is true. Dude could have bad numbers and not know it.

However doesn't matter, cause he isn't under oath. The question I'd ask is, why purposefully mislead?? Reminds me of all the crazy claims trumps lawyers would make at town halls and what not, that somehow would be omitted from every official court document.
My guess is that he wanted to quickly establish the quality of the sources of the information. If these source are from the Department of Defense and from Salus then the numbers should at least be as good as any numbers that have been collected. The DoD has access to VA/TriCare medical data and Salus used Medicare data.
This session presents the use of Medicare claim data from a Medicare cohort of 17 million beneficiaries for the Department of Defense Joint Artificial Intelligence Center Project Salus, to map at the local county and zip code level COVID-19 cases, severe disease risk and outcomes to track and predict hospital-based service use. The platform is also monitoring the COVID-9 vaccination program for both safety and efficacy in this high-risk Medicare population targeted to be vaccinated in priority.
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post 1655069633 01-26-2022, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
yes, you're right, every single one of those tweets are fake news and false. myocarditis and any adverse reactions from the vaccine is impossible. if it is possible, it's less chance from the vaccine than covid for everybody. if they feel any heart issues a few days after taking the vaccine, it's clearly in their head and not the vaccine. they're technically unvaccinated so probably covid got them. we don't need to work on the safety profile of these vaccines, change policies surrounding them, stratify at risk age groups vs benefits received because it's safe for everybody. also VAERS data is completely bunk even though many studies, including ones from the CDC use it.
Yall really need to stop with the strawman arguments. Never said every single one of those tweets is fake. I have made no definitce statements about the overall safety of the vax. No doubt with the hundreds of millions of doses administered that there are alot of people who have suffered adverse reactions.

Yes the cdc uses vaers, not in the way you're thinking. Look into it. Srs. Even b4 covid they understood they needed to account for the validity or lack of being self reported. Now with the anti vax trolls inundation of it, it's lost its ability to be a valuable tool.
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post 1655069903 01-26-2022, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
My guess is that he wanted to quickly establish the quality of the sources of the information. If these source are from the Department of Defense and from Salus then the numbers should at least be as good as any numbers that have been collected. The DoD has access to VA/TriCare medical data and Salus used Medicare data.



https://academyhealth.confex.com/aca.../Session/26595
Ok, but insinuating your under oath, or at least the videos editing to start at that moment is precariously misleading and certainly doesn't add to it's validity or quality. They aren't under oath or even in court. Hell, in your screenshot, there is a guy blatantly on his cellphone. Don't know how much time you've spent in court rooms, but that's not allowed.


I can claim right now that I plan to testify under oath that you strangle trannies for fun every Saturday. Until I actually take that step, it means nothing. You get that right? It's nothing more than a sales pitch strategy
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post 1655069943 01-26-2022, 05:09 PM
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something tells me that, yes, the vaxx is fukkin deadly and has side effects that are not rare at all but that the more deadly decision is to take the boosters.

no fukkin way would i take the double dose mrna, but nooooooo fukking way would i take a booster.
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Originally Posted By HayZues
How many of that 10k died?


And it's not like this is a politically charged topic or anything. Nobody would ever be motivated to falsely report "terrible vax side effects " on the highly verified and reliable Twitter.



You guys will believe anything, no questions asked,, as long as it confirms an already held bias..

Stop doing that. Not only is it incredibly low iq, it negatively affects the credibility of legit questions about mandates/for profit vaccines/etc.
Originally Posted By HayZues
So I did some quick scrolling... most of these "severe reactions" don't even have a name attached to them. They are like screenshots of a text message that read "my former co worker died from vaccine." Then when there I'd an actual name, like Maddie de Garay, it falsely claims she is a quadriplegic and attributes it to the vax, when in fact she isn't paralyzed at all and her official diagnosis is some sort of anxiety disorder.


Skepticalhippo.jpeg.
Originally Posted By HayZues
Again, this 10k number is nowhere near verified let alone a full accounting even if it was. However, you are comparing it to death numbers only from covid. How does that make any logical sense to you? So either covid had 0 affect on a person, or it killed them? So my MIL that was in hospital for 7 days, but lives, doesn't count in your math?

Jfc.

Trust me, if 870k people had died from the vax in the US, we'd all know about it. If 1/10th of that number was true... we'd all know about it.
Originally Posted By HayZues
Same reason you get chills, cold sweats, achy joints, and a fever after a flu shot?

Notsureifsrs?
Originally Posted By HayZues
Do you think you just made a point? Just lol.


Lmaooooooooo
Originally Posted By HayZues
Back when the vax was believed to stop the spread, I could have made the argument that you owed it to society to get vaxxed. However since it doesn't, I don't think it makes much of a difference at all if you get vaxxed or not.

I still believe the vax to be safer than covid, but will take 5-10 yrs to flesh that out.

I've never tried to force the vax on anybody, I'm pro questions, however most of these antivaxxer types aren't genuine in their questions or "rESeArCh."

I'm pro unbiased science.


I had to Google the US deaths to make that post, that's the number it gave. I'm well aware that number likely inflated, but I'm not following every daily news conference on this epidemic.


I currently have covid btw. My symptoms are far worse than my reaction to my one J&J shot, and still I suspect 72 hrs I'll be fine.
Originally Posted By HayZues
What a miserable life to see everything through a partisan political lens. Srs.



Still claiming your gf is a nurse turned MD, even though that isn't a thing and 2 different schooling paths?

Lmaooooo.
Originally Posted By HayZues
Doesn't claim to be under oath. It's actually carefully worded to purposefully mislead. I believe the exact verbiage is something like "this is information we INTEND to submit under threat of perjury. He isn't under oath and that isn't even a courtroom.

Even if he were under oath, which he isn't, perjury is only applicable when knowingly giving false statements under oath. It doesn't mean what said under oath is true. Dude could have bad numbers and not know it.

However doesn't matter, cause he isn't under oath. The question I'd ask is, why purposefully mislead?? Reminds me of all the crazy claims trumps lawyers would make at town halls and what not, that somehow would be omitted from every official court document.
Originally Posted By HayZues
Yall really need to stop with the strawman arguments. Never said every single one of those tweets is fake. I have made no definitce statements about the overall safety of the vax. No doubt with the hundreds of millions of doses administered that there are alot of people who have suffered adverse reactions.

Yes the cdc uses vaers, not in the way you're thinking. Look into it. Srs. Even b4 covid they understood they needed to account for the validity or lack of being self reported. Now with the anti vax trolls inundation of it, it's lost its ability to be a valuable tool.
Originally Posted By HayZues
Ok, but insinuating your under oath, or at least the videos editing to start at that moment is precariously misleading and certainly doesn't add to it's validity or quality. They aren't under oath or even in court. Hell, in your screenshot, there is a guy blatantly on his cellphone. Don't know how much time you've spent in court rooms, but that's not allowed.


I can claim right now that I plan to testify under oath that you strangle trannies for fun every Saturday. Until I actually take that step, it means nothing. You get that right? It's nothing more than a sales pitch strategy
bruh I like you a lot but how much does Phizer pay you a year?
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Yall really need to stop with the strawman arguments. Never said every single one of those tweets is fake. I have made no definitce statements about the overall safety of the vax. No doubt with the hundreds of millions of doses administered that there are alot of people who have suffered adverse reactions.

Yes the cdc uses vaers, not in the way you're thinking. Look into it. Srs. Even b4 covid they understood they needed to account for the validity or lack of being self reported. Now with the anti vax trolls inundation of it, it's lost its ability to be a valuable tool.
what way am I thinking then? enlighten me. all ive heard from people of your like and opinion is "vAeRs Is nOt A lEgItImAtE dAtAbAsE!" or the study used vaers so it is a bunk study.

you're literally in every covid thread dismissing everything that goes against your worldview and when you get called out on it you backtrack and are like "no i didn't say that, no obviously not everyone" as if you believe you are providing any balanced perspective on any of this when the main reason you entered it was to be a dismissive shill thinking you're "debunking" anything. you go out of your way and make 100 posts just to be a contrarian.

it was tweeted, it must be fake, then you turn around and say not all tweets. just lol. i'm just playing your game, just in the opposite way.
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Oh look, it's this thread again. This time it's HayZues who volunteered to deal with the idiots.
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Originally Posted By jeshelton⏩
bruh I like you a lot but how much does Phizer pay you a year?
Not nearly enough.
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post 1655070753 01-26-2022, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
imagine being this stupid and in denial

just lol

acting so particular about wording and then prefacing such a retarded argument with "I believe the exact verbiage is something like". what happened with being 1000% accurate you dumb piece of chit?
Lmao. The irony.

Is he under oath or not? I'll wait...
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
what way am I thinking then? enlighten me.

you're literally in every covid thread dismissing everything that goes against your worldview and when you get called out on it you backtrack and are like "no i didn't say that, no obviously not everyone" as if you believe you are providing any balanced perspective on any of this when the main reason you entered it was to be a dismissive shill thinking you're "debunking" anything.

it was tweeted, it must be fake, then you turn around and say not all tweets. just lol. i'm just playing your game, just in the opposite way.
I get why it seems that way. This is an anti vaxx echo chamber. So anybody bringing "balance" will come across in that manner..

If I were a memeber of a forum that was a pro vaxx echo chamber,, I think I'd probably be accused of the opposite.


I believe you think the cdc takes vaers at face value, which isn't true at all. I could be wrong, I shouldn't assume your position. My bad.


Please.show me where I said "it's tweeted, it MUST be fake?" In fact every post of mine itt was just quoted. Should be easy to find.


"And it's not like this is a politically charged topic or anything. Nobody would ever be motivated to falsely report "terrible vax side effects " on the highly verified and reliable Twitter."

My only mention of twitter itt. If you interpret that as "it's on Twitter, must be fake," that's on you. You jumped 3 levels on your own accord.


That's the problem with you guys, zero nuance. I promise the answer isn't black and white.
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Originally Posted By CanuckGame⏩
So opposed to the .03% chance ofdieingfrom covid.

Enjoy your boosters dumb fukk.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Nobody here is worried that they might die or suffer a severe reaction from the measles, polio, or flu vaccine
I haven't misc'd in a while, are people here worried they might die from the covid vaxx?
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Explain how someone not wanting the vaccine (created under the Trump administration and even endorsed by Trump) due to concerns over safety makes it political.

Further, explain how speaking negatively about the vaccine gives someone a political advantage?

I'll wait.
Explain to me why if it isn't political, everyone of these threads is libcuck this, democrats that. Bide Biden Biden.


Youre being dense if you are claiming this vaccine isn't political. Of course it shouldn't be, some of you are incapable of removing your political lens. It's sad and pathetic.
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
yes, you're right, every single one of those tweets are fake news and false. myocarditis and any adverse reactions from the vaccine is impossible. if it is possible, it's less chance from the vaccine than covid for everybody. if they feel any heart issues a few days after taking the vaccine, it's clearly in their head and not the vaccine. they're technically unvaccinated so probably covid got them. we don't need to work on the safety profile of these vaccines, change policies surrounding them, stratify at risk age groups vs benefits received because it's safe for everybody. also VAERS data is completely bunk even though many studies, including ones from the CDC use it.
I agreed with everything you said up until not having to work on the safety profile. We absolutely have to but it requires ALOT of data. Like 55 years worth of data, cuz like theres a lot of information on them and how safe they are.
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I got a very sore shoulder after my second shot. My afib also coincidentally got a bit worse soon after. No chills though. I got Pfizer.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Stop comparing this mRNA shot to the flu vaccine. Not even in the same league in terms of adverse reactions and side effects.

You're too dumb to realize the amount of lobbying done by Pharma towards every single institution out there, and the amount of censorship by Big tech regarding anything negative said about the vaccines.

You're still clinging on to the number stated in the OP not realizing 10,000 reactions is a microcosm of the entire amount of reactions that happened throughout the world.

Go look up the history of adverse reactions for any other vaccine out there and then compare to these mRNA jabs. Not even in the same league.

And to reiterate: you're one of those people who thinks that there is no foul play involved when a person takes the jab and has a severe side effect merely days later (such as death). cAnT pRoVe ThE vAcCiNe CaUsEd It

Tell me, how many people had severe adverse reactions days after the flu shot?

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Bob Saget dead in hotel bed with hand on chest days after getting booster he was reluctant to take so he could do his comedy tour

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post 1655073723 01-26-2022, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted By HayZues
Back when the vax was believed to stop the spread, I could have made the argument that you owed it to society to get vaxxed. However since it doesn't, I don't think it makes much of a difference at all if you get vaxxed or not.

I still believe the vax to be safer than covid, but will take 5-10 yrs to flesh that out.

I've never tried to force the vax on anybody, I'm pro questions, however most of these antivaxxer types aren't genuine in their questions or "rESeArCh."

I'm pro unbiased science.

I had to Google the US deaths to make that post, that's the number it gave. I'm well aware that number likely inflated, but I'm not following every daily news conference on this epidemic.

I currently have covid btw. My symptoms are far worse than my reaction to my one J&J shot, and still I suspect 72 hrs I'll be fine.
I've said this in another thread. The really interesting thing about the vaccine is. Nobody is really investigating to see if it is causing deaths. I'm a cop. We respond to in home deaths all the time.

Lets assume you get a booster today and have a heart attack and die in home tomorrow or even in the next month. As the investigating officer. Even if your wife/parents/friends tell me you just got vaxed/ boosted. I'll say ok and note it in my report. The portion of the report where your medical history is noted is not public record. Further more, there is no data-base that this goes into. I'll mention it to the coroner as we stuff your body into the bag. He'll do an autopsy. The death will be ruled as 'natural causes' with no sign of foul play. And again nothing about you being vaccinated right before or that the vaccine possibly contributed to the death goes into any kind of official data base. A large portion of vaccinated people trust the government and assuming you get vaccinated or boosted and die a couple of months later nobody is going to even mention it unless questioned.


Assuming you didn't have an over-dose from 'illegal' street drugs. And weren't obviously murdered. Nobody will put any effort into determining your real cause of death. Assuming your family has a sh!tload of money and influence they can order separate autopsy's and try to determine if the vaccine caused it. But even if the medical investigators they hire determine the vaccine contributed to your death. There is still no national database that this goes into. And if you try to put it on social media it will get censored/deleted.




People die all the time. Nobody is really keeping track/trying to determine if the vaccine causes increased mortality risks. As the guy who often investigates in home deaths and stuffs a few dozen bodies into bags with the coroner per year. I find the topic interesting. But I don't necessarily even care enough to keep track. Local coroner certainly doesn't care either. Its not a criminal matter.


So when people talk about vaccine deaths I really just question the source. There is no unified effort into this. Nobody gives a fukk. Nobody is monitoring vaccinated individuals for unrelated deaths months later.
post 1655074583 01-26-2022, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I read your entire post and it seems mostly neutral, but this sentence stuck out in particular. In my opinion, it is a criminal matter. The threshold for vaccine related deaths is extremely low for all previous vaccines combined. If more effort was placed into determining the potential relation between this mRNA vaccine and deaths, people would find far more deaths than are reasonable for a vaccine (this is an opinion). If that were the case, the fact that the government is colluding with Big tech and Pharma to suppress this information and provide a false sense of safety in favor of the jabs, is absolutely criminal. It is incredible that there is a trifecta of the biggest organizations in the world working together to push these jabs and suppress information. This is how you get massive casualties with zero justice.
I'd agree except there is no legislation around it yet. Even if a couple of officers and the local coroners office go on a personal crusade and try and investigate & document this. Its still going to be very hard to prove. And as far as I'm aware big pharma kind of has criminal immunity in this. With the amount of people that have been vaccinated. This is something that's going to take the next 10-15 years to really learn about. But nothing is really being documented.

The only real numbers we can look at going forward is seeing the percentages of natural deaths and if they increase beyond what we've normally had. They already have in many areas and the funny thing is I've seen some sources try to claim its a side effect of Covid 19.


From what I can tell whether or not someone is vaccinated + boosted or a pureblood is not recorded in any unified data base. Furthermore with the government, mainstream media, social media and the medical community we have I don't suspect this will ever be investigated/documented. If anyone tries it'll get removed/censored.




I'm literally the guy who would be documenting this stuff. I'm the one who would be asking these questions of the family. Which is precisely why I know nothing is being investigated.
post 1655074603 01-26-2022, 06:35 PM
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post 1655074643 01-26-2022, 06:37 PM
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I just had unvaxxed covid and literally it was a joke.

so there's that....
post 1655074783 01-26-2022, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
I just had unvaxxed covid and literally it was a joke.

so there's that....
I am still trying to understand. So if OG covid (the original) isn't around much anymore and Delta is less common now and less deadly, why are people still getting vax for ominicrome or whatever it's called? Most people say it's like a cold.... i don't get it.

What am i missing other than liberals making a big deal out of nothing?
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post 1655074893 01-26-2022, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted By pengh⏩
I am still trying to understand. So if OG covid (the original) isn't around much anymore and Delta is less common now and less deadly, why are people still getting vax for ominicrome or whatever it's called? Most people say it's like a cold.... i don't get it.
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