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ยป Heart disease soars after having covid
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post 1656145043 02-13-2022, 08:05 PM
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50% more likely to have a stroke sounds terrifying... trouble is only 8 in 1000 people had a stroke in the control group, which increased to 12 in 1000 in the covid-recovered group. Brb they could have also said an additional 1 out of every 250 people who caught covid had a stroke compares to the control group... Brb doesn't sound scary enough to put it that way, let's go with percentage increases on dismally low incidence rates to get maximum alarm bells ringing.

No chit having a flu that puts strains on your organs will increase risk of organ diseases. But at that rate it's a pretty small risk.

Also let's not be totally ignorant of the fact that the control group was PRE covid, meaning death rates were far lower for things like drug overdoses and rates of alcoholism were also lower.... Both of which are probably more common in vets. That doesn't seem to have been factored into consideration at all.

They do mention that rates increased for people who were not hospitalized for covid, however I would be interested to see by how much-- it's entirely possible the bulk majority of increases were in fact seen in hospitalized patients who we know may have have been treated with organ damaging substances or devices like remdesivir or ventilators


I have seen good studies published by Nature but I don't really know if this is thorough enough.
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post 1656145943 02-13-2022, 08:19 PM
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am i missing anything in my stack? vitamin k?

also make sure getting enough potassium
post 1656146073 02-13-2022, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted By rjones416
multi
fish oil
vitamin b complex
vitamin b12
vitamin c
vitamin d
vitamin e
calcium
magnesium
iron
garlic
ginger
turmeric
probiotics
psyllium husk (fiber)
melatonin

am i missing anything in my stack? vitamin k?

also make sure getting enough potassium
lol I just live healthy and make sure I get some sun and vitamin C regularly
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post 1656147053 02-13-2022, 08:46 PM
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post 1656148153 02-13-2022, 09:10 PM
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I remember reading the difference between colds and the flu (or virus') is that a virus can leave permanent problems.

Report is probably true to some extent.
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post 1656148473 02-13-2022, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Peacening
50% more likely to have a stroke sounds terrifying... trouble is only 8 in 1000 people had a stroke in the control group, which increased to 12 in 1000 in the covid-recovered group. Brb they could have also said an additional 1 out of every 250 people who caught covid had a stroke compares to the control group... Brb doesn't sound scary enough to put it that way, let's go with percentage increases on dismally low incidence rates to get maximum alarm bells ringing.

No chit having a flu that puts strains on your organs will increase risk of organ diseases. But at that rate it's a pretty small risk.

Also let's not be totally ignorant of the fact that the control group was PRE covid, meaning death rates were far lower for things like drug overdoses and rates of alcoholism were also lower.... Both of which are probably more common in vets. That doesn't seem to have been factored into consideration at all.

They do mention that rates increased for people who were not hospitalized for covid, however I would be interested to see by how much-- it's entirely possible the bulk majority of increases were in fact seen in hospitalized patients who we know may have have been treated with organ damaging substances or devices like remdesivir or ventilators


I have seen good studies published by Nature but I don't really know if this is thorough enough.
There is more information at the study link.

The increase is much higher for those who were hospitalized or in ICU.





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These charts are comparing those who had covid with a "contemporary cohort", or IOW a group of people that were not diagnosed with covid during the same time period [during the pandemic].

They also compared to a second cohort of historical records prior to the pandemic and didn't put charts in for that. You can look at the tables.

https://static-content.springer.com/...MOESM1_ESM.pdf

Contemporary Cohort:

Stroke- 7.94 per 1000

Dysrhythmia- 29.64 per 1000

Myocardial Infarction- 4.73 per 1000

Heart Failure- 16.48 per 1000

Thrombotic Disorders- 7.25 per 1000

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Historical Cohort:

Stroke- 8.1 per 1000

Dysrhythmia- 31.92 per 1000

Myocardial Infarction- 4.49 per 1000

Heart Failure- 17.92 per 1000

Thrombotic Disorders- 6.5 per 1000

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COVID-19 Patients Who Survived 30 Days:

Stroke- per 1000

Non-hospitalized- 9.79 [vs. 8] From 0.8% to 0.98%
Hospitalized- 24.08
ICU- 34.06

Dysrhythmia- per 1000

Non-hospitalized- 39.36 [vs. 30-32] From about 3% to about 4%
Hospitalized- 110.50
ICU- 212.25

Myocardial Infarction- per 1000

Non-hospitalized- 1.14 [vs. 5 ] Unlikely to have a heart attack = unlikely to be hospitalized for covid.
Hospitalized- 20.42
ICU- 37.27

Heart Failure- per 1000

Non-hospitalized- 22.52 [vs. 17-18] From 1.7- 1.8% to 2.25%
Hospitalized- 63.27
ICU- 95.67

Thrombotic Disorders [blood clots]- per 1000

Non-hospitalized- 12.56 [vs. 6-7] From .6 - .7% to 1.25%
Hospitalized- 46.44
ICU- 100.24

So for those NOT hospitalized the risk increase for most of these is in the range of 1% or less.

The largest increase was for "thrombotic disorders" aka:blood clots, which you could say "doubled". Stay hydrated. Maybe take some low dose aspirin for a little while. *not medical advice* lol
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post 1656148923 02-13-2022, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Iron_Chef
The study is on unvaxxed.
Too bad "elevated heart disease" diagnosis counted within 2 weeks after being jabbed is labeled as "Unvacinated"

Come on OP. We all know the Omicron is way more beneficial than mRNA.
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