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post 1661695763 05-21-2022, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Skeptical_Hippo
Its interesting the cops stood behind the cops?

Have you been in a coma for the last 20 years
I guess I've seen too many departments turn their backs on their officers lately. The chief, who's retired now, is still standing behind Darby. I know cops back each other, and that bad departments want to save face all the time, but the lengths they are going to get this chit overturned seems more than just covering for each other. That could have been dropped after he was convicted, but it's not.

If the officer was trained to react in that way, do you think he should be convicted? It seems wrong to me to put a person in jail, especially one who's putting their own life on the line every day...for something he was trained to do.
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post 1661695783 05-21-2022, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
I mean the guy wanted to kill himself.... Why is the cop going to prison?

Im tired of seeing cops go down for retarded people. Killing some guy who is minding his own business - then sure jail the cop.... But this guy who died isnt some top tier contributing member of society, so who really cares?
He’s going to prison because he broke the law. Simple. Somebody being suicidal doesn’t mean you can legally kill them.
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Originally Posted By Johnez
If the officer was acting in accordance to his training, I just can't see this officer's sentence holding up. Its interesting to me that the mayor, the police chief, the city and police department all stood behind the officer. It's unfortunate, but I can't e this as a bad shoot.
The law > a police officers training and department protocol

This shows how many people have the mindset that police are above the law. They’re not. If your boss tells you to do something illegal and you do it, congratulations, you still broke the law.
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Originally Posted By navid93
The law > a police officers training and department protocol

This shows how many people have the mindset that police are above the law. They’re not. If your boss tells you to do something illegal and you do it, congratulations, you still broke the law.
This, jesus christ. Cant belive this needs to even be explained
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Originally Posted By navid93
This shows how many people have the mindset that police are above the law. They’re not
There are many things a cop can do legally that a civilian cannot.
Originally Posted By navid93
If your boss tells you to do something illegal and you do it, congratulations, you still broke the law.
LMAO. Not sheriff srs....

For what it's worth I think the first 2 cops had the right idea and Darby fukked it up.
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Originally Posted By Johnez
There are many things a cop can do legally that a civilian cannot.


LMAO. Not sheriff srs....

For what it's worth I think the first 2 cops had the right idea and Darby fukked it up.
Police officers are legally allowed to use lethal force when they REASONABLY fear they are in danger of death or great bodily harm. Same as civilians. Also when a dangerous suspect of a violent crime is attempting to flee.

Neither of those things happened
post 1661697913 05-22-2022, 01:05 AM
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Being a cop sucks so hard. Imagine throwing your life away over some dude that was going to kill himself anyway. Looks like the Darwin award will have to be shared this year.
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Originally Posted By akferd
Being a cop sucks so hard. Imagine throwing your life away over some dude that was going to kill himself anyway. Looks like the Darwin award will have to be shared this year.
this.

Why would you even want to be a cop?

oh this guy overdosed while resisting arrest and died, brb cop gets 30 years in jail.

oh this suicidal guy wouldn't drop his gun, brb cop gets 25 years in jail.

Cops are dealing with the absolute bottom tier of society... We should be giving them a TON of slack.
post 1661709683 05-22-2022, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted By akferd
Being a cop sucks so hard. Imagine throwing your life away over some dude that was going to kill himself anyway. Looks like the Darwin award will have to be shared this year.
Anyone who says being a cop is hard is legitimately low IQ.

Of course, its not easy either. But its not as difficult as some folks make it out to be. All you do is clock in, patrol, write up some tickets, and once in a while you'll have to respond to some domestic violence calls.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
I mean the guy wanted to kill himself.... Why is the cop going to prison?

Im tired of seeing cops go down for retarded people. Killing some guy who is minding his own business - then sure jail the cop.... But this guy who died isnt some top tier contributing member of society, so who really cares?
What?? He fuking shot the guy! There was no need to do that whatsoever.
Camera 2 shows how cop just runs up like he just couldn't wait to shoot somebody.
Female cop mannerism doesn't even change. She's like welp ok you deescalated the situation. Let's go to Arby's
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Originally Posted By tunafishha
Anyone who says being a cop is hard is legitimately low IQ.

Of course, its not easy either. But its not as difficult as some folks make it out to be. All you do is clock in, patrol, write up some tickets, and once in a while you'll have to respond to some domestic violence calls.
Don’t be biased. It’s obviously a very difficult and stressful job

If you live in a small town with like 100 people maybe not but otherwise it is
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Originally Posted By navid93
Don’t be biased. It’s obviously a very difficult and stressful job

If you live in a small town with like 100 people maybe not but otherwise it is
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Good. Most cops are scum and are eager to kill.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
I mean the guy wanted to kill himself.... Why is the cop going to prison?

Im tired of seeing cops go down for retarded people. Killing some guy who is minding his own business - then sure jail the cop.... But this guy who died isnt some top tier contributing member of society, so who really cares?
This. Nothing of value was lost. Meanwhile, you have 1 less cop on the street saving lives, and make no mistake, cops save lives. Just look at NY and defund the police crap.

My first rule as a president: obey the cop and don’t endanger yours and his life or you deserve to die.

That’s it. Now if the cop abuses their power, forces someone to do something that is not within the law. Give them the electric chair.

Authority works both ways. You’ve been given great power so people should respect that power if you abuse that authority then you deserve 10x the punishment since you had 10x the power.

Cops shouldn’t lose their life cos they made a bad call, that happens. Imagine we go back and sentence judges 25 years in prison cos they made 1 bad call in the past, given a harsher sentence than they should have. Or give jurors 25 years cos they judged guilty on an innocent person.

Everyone makes mistakes on the job, cops just happen to have a lot more on the line. That’s why it’s extremely important that since their mistake has so much on the line, we minimise those mistakes as much as possible. One of the ways to minimise mistakes is to comply. To not comply and be a “tough guy” is basically endangering yours and the cops life, for that you deserve to die.
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Originally Posted By Exiled93
Good. Most cops are scum and are eager to kill.
I’ve ran into maybe 20+ cops in my life? Usually there’s 2+ per encounter. Every single one has been nice, except for when I called them a pig.

So based on that anecdotal alone, where y you estimate AT LEAST 51% of cops want to kill, I’d say you are wayyyyyy off the mark statistically speaking.

I mean technically, if we go by “most” as 51% at the very least, then the chances of a cop not wanting to kill me would only be 49%. The chances of a cop not wanting to kill me 20 times in a row is like 0.00006%.
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Originally Posted By plsmire
Cops shouldn’t lose their life cos they made a bad call, that happens. Imagine we go back and sentence judges 25 years in prison cos they made 1 bad call in the past, given a harsher sentence than they should have. Or give jurors 25 years cos they judged guilty on an innocent person..
actually a very good point....
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Another pig thrown in the pen. Big win
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stupid fkn cop walked in and thought he was Darth Vader wtf

Hope he gets his throat dry r@aped every day and night in prison fkn stupid pig
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Originally Posted By Johnez
If the officer was acting in accordance to his training, I just can't see this officer's sentence holding up. Its interesting to me that the mayor, the police chief, the city and police department all stood behind the officer. It's unfortunate, but I can't e this as a bad shoot.
The cop escalated the situation unnecessarily though.
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Originally Posted By plsmire
This. Nothing of value was lost. Meanwhile, you have 1 less cop on the street saving lives, and make no mistake, cops save lives. Just look at NY and defund the police crap.

My first rule as a president: obey the cop and don’t endanger yours and his life or you deserve to die.

That’s it. Now if the cop abuses their power, forces someone to do something that is not within the law. Give them the electric chair.

Authority works both ways. You’ve been given great power so people should respect that power if you abuse that authority then you deserve 10x the punishment since you had 10x the power.

Cops shouldn’t lose their life cos they made a bad call, that happens. Imagine we go back and sentence judges 25 years in prison cos they made 1 bad call in the past, given a harsher sentence than they should have. Or give jurors 25 years cos they judged guilty on an innocent person.

Everyone makes mistakes on the job, cops just happen to have a lot more on the line. That’s why it’s extremely important that since their mistake has so much on the line, we minimise those mistakes as much as possible. One of the ways to minimise mistakes is to comply. To not comply and be a “tough guy” is basically endangering yours and the cops life, for that you deserve to die.
I don't think your argument really holds water. If a surgeon amputates the wrong limb during a surgery should they not be accountable either becuase thier job is diificult? Furthermore with your judge example I'd argue that if a judge sentences someone to life in prison/death despute there being plenty of evidence pointing to their innocence then yes the judge should be punished harshly. Society needs less retard cops, not more.
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Originally Posted By plsmire
This. Nothing of value was lost. Meanwhile, you have 1 less cop on the street saving lives, and make no mistake, cops save lives. Just look at NY and defund the police crap.

My first rule as a president: obey the cop and don’t endanger yours and his life or you deserve to die.

That’s it. Now if the cop abuses their power, forces someone to do something that is not within the law. Give them the electric chair.

Authority works both ways. You’ve been given great power so people should respect that power if you abuse that authority then you deserve 10x the punishment since you had 10x the power.

Cops shouldn’t lose their life cos they made a bad call, that happens. Imagine we go back and sentence judges 25 years in prison cos they made 1 bad call in the past, given a harsher sentence than they should have. Or give jurors 25 years cos they judged guilty on an innocent person.

Everyone makes mistakes on the job, cops just happen to have a lot more on the line. That’s why it’s extremely important that since their mistake has so much on the line, we minimise those mistakes as much as possible. One of the ways to minimise mistakes is to comply. To not comply and be a “tough guy” is basically endangering yours and the cops life, for that you deserve to die.
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He deserves 25 years in prison. A lot of police have gotten away with so much murder and violence and theft it is nice to see that once in a while an actually guilty cop gets punished.


There's controversy with this one, though.
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Originally Posted By plsmire
This. Nothing of value was lost. Meanwhile, you have 1 less cop on the street saving lives, and make no mistake, cops save lives. Just look at NY and defund the police crap.

My first rule as a president: obey the cop and don’t endanger yours and his life or you deserve to die.

That’s it. Now if the cop abuses their power, forces someone to do something that is not within the law. Give them the electric chair.

Authority works both ways. You’ve been given great power so people should respect that power if you abuse that authority then you deserve 10x the punishment since you had 10x the power.

Cops shouldn’t lose their life cos they made a bad call, that happens. Imagine we go back and sentence judges 25 years in prison cos they made 1 bad call in the past, given a harsher sentence than they should have. Or give jurors 25 years cos they judged guilty on an innocent person.

Everyone makes mistakes on the job, cops just happen to have a lot more on the line. That’s why it’s extremely important that since their mistake has so much on the line, we minimise those mistakes as much as possible. One of the ways to minimise mistakes is to comply. To not comply and be a “tough guy” is basically endangering yours and the cops life, for that you deserve to die.
First, let me start by saying I couldn't care less that the guy died, but the cop was ****ing retarded. Nothing of value was lost toyou. That guy's family is likely devastated, as is that cop's family, so plenty of value was lost.

Not all cops save lives. Hate that ****. Not every soldier is a hero, either. One's occupation =/= hero.

Cops DO deserve 10x the punishment, but they more often than not get away with stuff because they're cops. That idiot was there less than 15 seconds and he killed someone. He didn't even have time to assess the situation.

Yes, they should, if the call is bad enough. That guy could've been going through some kind of mental issue. The cop had no ****ing clue. ELEVEN SECONDS. You want people to respect cops but that moron tookmaking eye contactand a shoulder shrug as justification to kill him. Think about that for a second. Eye contact and a ****ing shoulder shrug. Judges also deserve 10x the punishment if they end someone's life like that. You're reaching with the jurors. That's asinine unless it's racially motivated or something like that.

They signed up for the job. They knew what they were getting in to.

I'm 100% with you on the complying thing. People that commit a crime, don't comply, and get hurt often deserve it. Stupid games, stupid prizes. The cop was the one playing stupid games this time, though.
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The police department should not have to respond for subjects feeling suicidal in their own home. Its not a criminal matter to feel suicidal or to be armed in his own home. As long as he isn't a threat to the public it should be hands off. I bet they have crap policy/training around dealing with these kind of people. If you can't call them/talk to them over the phone its a mistake to go up to the door and talk to them that close.



Dealing with suicidal people is extremely high risk because occasionally they'll shoot at the police/attempt to kill the first cop so the second one kills them.. Its just really not worth getting killed and/or having to shoot someone and deal with the legal liabilities.


I've seen guys suicide by cop before and I've also safely negotiated people to drop their gun and get some medical help. Also nearly been shot twice by suicidal people. Overall in my experience 'saving a life' isn't worth the risk or stress. Its literally all risk & no real reward. Even if you 'save' them you'll be dealing with them and their crazy on another day in the future. Furthermore if you do have to shoot and kill a suicidal person you'll be demonized by the family/media.


Its going to sound harsh but in my experience there is absolutely no upside to preventing a suicide. Especially the type individual that arms themself with a firearm. Its definitely not worth getting killed/going to prison over. Officer should have stayed far in the back so he wouldn't put himself in that position.
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