Thread: RIP Randy Weaver (Ruby Ridge)
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Originally Posted By residesinAZ⏩
Country is the best part of 90% white, my area is 95% white-it sure as hell isn't happening in my lifetime. The same argument used by KKK members for decades against interracial relationships & blacks generally-yet the black population isn't even 15%This is why you're being overrun by migrants lmao. Have fun losing your country fgt.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Wanted to neg for being a cuck but apparently have negged recently.It is documented reality. I didn't say the authorities couldn't have handled it better, just like with Waco & after the initial incident they went beyond the scope of what they had been authorised to do-in endangering others lives. The point is this individual is not some hero or to be admired.
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
1. Yeah, he watched some crappy movie & decides to move his family there with his equally insane religious lunatic wife-nobody forced him to, likely he moved there because like most of his type they have similar views to white supremacists.A real ****ed up case. As far as I'm concerned Randall Weaver was a champion of the nth degree for all of this.
Lol he also won his case against the federal government and was awarded millions of dollars, and ATF, US Marshalls, etc have had to undergo retraining as a direct result of this incident. But yeah random contrarian chitbrains on the internet know more than what has been repeated for decades.
-Becomes untrusting of the government, moves to Idaho
-Area he moves to is known for White Supremacy
-Builds a home with his bare hands, for his family
-Has no job, needs to feed his family, ingratiates himself with the community to get money. Deliberately tells them he has no intention of joining their Aryan Brotherhood movement
-Undercover ATF agent offers to pay Randall Weaver money for sawn-off shotguns
-Needs money so he does it, gets arrested, furthers his contempt for the government
-Doesnt have the money for a legal defense so he skips his court hearing.
-US Marshalls enter his property unannounced while the family is out hunting.
-Marshalls run into the Weavers and all hell breaks loose. Son gets killed and so does one US Marshal.
-Govt brings in the whole ****ing military on Randall Weaver's family. Snipe at them when they leave their home, killing the mother as she is re-entering their home.
-Randall Weaver has a standoff for another week or so, eventually gives himself up.
-Local community outraged they killed the mother and son, standoff with protesters. Further insanity.
-After an investigation the federal government awards Randall Weaver like 13 million dollars for the incident.
-jimbob is a retarded inbred who thinks this award somehow means Randall Weaver was completely at fault.
Lol he also won his case against the federal government and was awarded millions of dollars, and ATF, US Marshalls, etc have had to undergo retraining as a direct result of this incident. But yeah random contrarian chitbrains on the internet know more than what has been repeated for decades.
-Becomes untrusting of the government, moves to Idaho
-Area he moves to is known for White Supremacy
-Builds a home with his bare hands, for his family
-Has no job, needs to feed his family, ingratiates himself with the community to get money. Deliberately tells them he has no intention of joining their Aryan Brotherhood movement
-Undercover ATF agent offers to pay Randall Weaver money for sawn-off shotguns
-Needs money so he does it, gets arrested, furthers his contempt for the government
-Doesnt have the money for a legal defense so he skips his court hearing.
-US Marshalls enter his property unannounced while the family is out hunting.
-Marshalls run into the Weavers and all hell breaks loose. Son gets killed and so does one US Marshal.
-Govt brings in the whole ****ing military on Randall Weaver's family. Snipe at them when they leave their home, killing the mother as she is re-entering their home.
-Randall Weaver has a standoff for another week or so, eventually gives himself up.
-Local community outraged they killed the mother and son, standoff with protesters. Further insanity.
-After an investigation the federal government awards Randall Weaver like 13 million dollars for the incident.
-jimbob is a retarded inbred who thinks this award somehow means Randall Weaver was completely at fault.
2. Has no job-he decided to jack in his life & go there, so why didn't he get a job to provide for his family? Doesn't want to join their movement but spends years going to their meetings.
3. Again, why can he only make money via crime after six or so years in this area? What about all the people there who live an honest life to make money?
4. Marshall was shot dead by his buddy Harris first, they in return shot the dog as it was giving their position away & then the retard kid starts shooting at them so is dispatched.
5. Mother was clearly trying to use the baby as a human shield-yes the Marshalls overstepped their remit & that is why they were found against & the payout was given.
6. Local community are also a bunch of inbred racist, government hating rednecks-that is why he move there & went around spouting off about Blacks, Jews, making threats to kill Reagan etc.
Stop worshiping this pos-he wasn't a hero, he was a criminal who thought he was above the law.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
You can't reason with gubment hating white trash mate. Theyreallythink they are out to get them, it's borderline paranoid schizophrenia. The situation was fuked and mistakes were made, but they take it way too far. Nothing was done anywhere near as nefarious as the white trash militia people think. They're really not much better than blm to be honest. I'm ashamed of them.1. Yeah, he watched some crappy movie & decides to move his family there with his equally insane religious lunatic wife-nobody forced him to, likely he moved there because like most of his type they have similar views to white supremacists.
2. Has no job-he decided to jack in his life & go there, so why didn't he get a job to provide for his family? Doesn't want to join their movement but spends years going to their meetings.
3. Again, why can he only make money via crime after six or so years in this area? What about all the people there who live an honest life to make money?
4. Marshall was shot dead by his buddy Harris first, they in return shot the dog as it was giving their position away & then the retard kid starts shooting at them so is dispatched.
5. Mother was clearly trying to use the baby as a human shield-yes the Marshalls overstepped their remit & that is why they were found against & the payout was given.
6. Local community are also a bunch of inbred racist, government hating rednecks-that is why he move there & went around spouting off about Blacks, Jews, making threats to kill Reagan etc.
Stop worshiping this pos-he wasn't a hero, he was a criminal who thought he was above the law.
2. Has no job-he decided to jack in his life & go there, so why didn't he get a job to provide for his family? Doesn't want to join their movement but spends years going to their meetings.
3. Again, why can he only make money via crime after six or so years in this area? What about all the people there who live an honest life to make money?
4. Marshall was shot dead by his buddy Harris first, they in return shot the dog as it was giving their position away & then the retard kid starts shooting at them so is dispatched.
5. Mother was clearly trying to use the baby as a human shield-yes the Marshalls overstepped their remit & that is why they were found against & the payout was given.
6. Local community are also a bunch of inbred racist, government hating rednecks-that is why he move there & went around spouting off about Blacks, Jews, making threats to kill Reagan etc.
Stop worshiping this pos-he wasn't a hero, he was a criminal who thought he was above the law.
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Originally Posted By natypes⏩
Isn't that what they did to David Koresh and the Branch Davidians? The Feds knew Koresh's schedule/habits and could have pulled him over during one of his many trips into town, but decided it was a better idea to initiate a massive conflict at his compound and kill numerous women and children who did absolutely nothing wrong.This. So much tinfoil hat shyt about this incident. If you really think Federal agents can just kill a family w/o justification and oversight you're an idiot. Ever think you MIGHT not know everything about the case b/c it's federal? They don't tell you everything and extremist nuts fill in the blanks with whatever they want and make it seem like a completely different story.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Is this a British thing? Where you believe the government has absolute authority over you in your own home? What happened to every Englishman being king of his own castle? Cuck.Don't shoot & kill government agents when you are a fugitive-then none of this would have happened. The 14 year old decided he would start taking shots at agents as well-which is why he was killed.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
why do you keep mentioning that he was a white supremacist?Stop putting common criminals on a pedestal-he could have avoided all this by not going to white supremacist meetings & selling illegal guns to people & by going to court-rather than hiding away for 16 months. He ended up doing 18 months for his crime anyway-he basically got his wife, son & dog killed for no reason.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Lmao where the hell did you get any of that? You don't know what happened and how the situation went down when the marshals ran into the Weavers. Someone trespassing on my property, shoots my dog, they're going to get shot at.Come on dude-use your brains. He had already threatened agents at gunpoint there several months earlier, him & Harris knew full well who they were shooting at. He had plenty of chances to surrender to face justice for 16 months & chose not to-he bought it all on himself. What were authorities supposed to do? Just let him get away with it because he doesn't like the government & law enforcement & so thinks he isn't subject to the same laws as everybody else?
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Originally Posted By mingrey02stg2⏩
It was total incompetence-the agent they sent in undercover was spotted right away as he bragged about guns but had zero knowledge about them, yet he remained & they were feeding him bs to report back. The whole thing like this was amateur hour planning.Isn't that what they did to David Koresh and the Branch Davidians? The Feds knew Koresh's schedule/habits and could have pulled him over during one of his many trips into town, but decided it was a better idea to initiate a massive conflict at his compound and kill numerous women and children who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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I dated one of his daughters when I lived in Northern Mt and met him several times.
My mistrust for the govt started here and has only grown worse.
The part I'm not seeing in here is the fbi set him up with that shotgun. It was entrapment.
My mistrust for the govt started here and has only grown worse.
The part I'm not seeing in here is the fbi set him up with that shotgun. It was entrapment.
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Originally Posted By yewotm8⏩
The difference is he wasn't an average citizen minding his own business, he was a criminal refusing to face justice & sticking two fingers up. The kind of man who sent his children out armed with guns to intercept visitors, knowing they could be shot dead if they started firing at the authorities-rather than just man up & cop a plea deal. As I said he ended up doing 18 months for it anyway-so he basically got his wife, son & dog killed, along with his buddy seriously injured from the bullet that went through his wifes head & struck Harris for no reason.Is this a British thing? Where you believe the government has absolute authority over you in your own home? What happened to every Englishman being king of his own castle? Cuck.
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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩
Because the agent befriended him at the white supremacist meetings he attended. Also to point out he is not somebody to look up to.why do you keep mentioning that he was a white supremacist?
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Okay dude you're obviously just either making **** up or you were horribly misinformed on the details of the case. I didn't even bother going past point one. A movie? He was a farmer who got shafted during the farming crisis, hated the government as a result.1. Yeah, he watched some crappy movie & decides to move his family there with his equally insane religious lunatic wife-nobody forced him to, likely he moved there because like most of his type they have similar views to white supremacists.
2. Has no job-he decided to jack in his life & go there, so why didn't he get a job to provide for his family? Doesn't want to join their movement but spends years going to their meetings.
3. Again, why can he only make money via crime after six or so years in this area? What about all the people there who live an honest life to make money?
4. Marshall was shot dead by his buddy Harris first, they in return shot the dog as it was giving their position away & then the retard kid starts shooting at them so is dispatched.
5. Mother was clearly trying to use the baby as a human shield-yes the Marshalls overstepped their remit & that is why they were found against & the payout was given.
6. Local community are also a bunch of inbred racist, government hating rednecks-that is why he move there & went around spouting off about Blacks, Jews, making threats to kill Reagan etc.
Stop worshiping this pos-he wasn't a hero, he was a criminal who thought he was above the law.
2. Has no job-he decided to jack in his life & go there, so why didn't he get a job to provide for his family? Doesn't want to join their movement but spends years going to their meetings.
3. Again, why can he only make money via crime after six or so years in this area? What about all the people there who live an honest life to make money?
4. Marshall was shot dead by his buddy Harris first, they in return shot the dog as it was giving their position away & then the retard kid starts shooting at them so is dispatched.
5. Mother was clearly trying to use the baby as a human shield-yes the Marshalls overstepped their remit & that is why they were found against & the payout was given.
6. Local community are also a bunch of inbred racist, government hating rednecks-that is why he move there & went around spouting off about Blacks, Jews, making threats to kill Reagan etc.
Stop worshiping this pos-he wasn't a hero, he was a criminal who thought he was above the law.
He wasn't perfect and he did fuk up in a couple areas, could have prevented it from getting worse, but to say he had it coming just sounds retarded as all hell.
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Originally Posted By gixxer0.6g⏩
Set-up would be a plant, he willingly sold a gun illegally not caring what purpose it would be used for. Nobody had a gun at his head making him do it, he chose to & then like the coward he was refused to face justice & got his family killed.I dated one of his daughters when I lived in Northern Mt and met him several times.
My mistrust for the govt started here and has only grown worse.
The part I'm not seeing in here is the fbi set him up with that shotgun. It was entrapment.
My mistrust for the govt started here and has only grown worse.
The part I'm not seeing in here is the fbi set him up with that shotgun. It was entrapment.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
The area he moved to was thick in the white supremacists movement, he was only involved in the separatist sect of the community. He has said numerous times he had no interest in the Aryan Brotherhood. Unless you have some proof he was a white supremacist otherwise... But of course you got nothingBecause the agent befriended him at the white supremacist meetings he attended. Also to point out he is not somebody to look up to.
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
The agents popped out of a bush and shot his dog in front of him while wearing fatigues and not announcing themselves. If a man popped out of a bush and shot your dog and then pointed a gun at you, what would you do?Don't shoot & kill government agents when you are a fugitive-then none of this would have happened. The 14 year old decided he would start taking shots at agents as well-which is why he was killed.
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JFL at these gubbermint simps.
All gun laws are an infringement. Weaver got screwed and his whole family got killed, defending the ATF or FBI and whoever else was involved is retardation in NYPat's level
All gun laws are an infringement. Weaver got screwed and his whole family got killed, defending the ATF or FBI and whoever else was involved is retardation in NYPat's level
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
What? Who's turning this into a white privilege thing now? And no I've been critical of cops during *some* of the well-known cases BLM cites, but not all. I'm always critical when people step out of line.Do y'all seriously deny that if Weaver was black, you wouldn't be supporting the government and saying he should've just complied? LOL.
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Originally Posted By DolphinPilot⏩
Oh, based on your untrained, half-informed opinion. jflI'm always critical when people step out of line.
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps⏩
You gave me reps, not negs while calling me a stupid ass.JFL at these gubbermint simps.
All gun laws are an infringement. Weaver got screwed and his whole family got killed, defending the ATF or FBI and whoever else was involved is retardation in NYPat's level
All gun laws are an infringement. Weaver got screwed and his whole family got killed, defending the ATF or FBI and whoever else was involved is retardation in NYPat's level
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Wrong. They provided the gun and cash. Said they'd pay him (a lot of money to him because he wasn't working) to cut the stock so he did. Then said be a snitch for the fbi or go to jail.Set-up would be a plant, he willingly sold a gun illegally not caring what purpose it would be used for. Nobody had a gun at his head making him do it, he chose to & then like the coward he was refused to face justice & got his family killed.
Entrapment
the action of tricking someone into committing a crime in order to secure their prosecution
If this wasn't a massive fuk up by the govt why did each surviving member of the family get $1M?
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Damn you dated one of his daughters
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra⏩
this..Do y'all seriously deny that if Weaver was black, you wouldn't be supporting the government and saying he should've just complied? LOL.
thread would be filled with "play stupid games, win stupid prizes", etc..
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Originally Posted By gixxer0.6g⏩
There are plenty of actual entrapment cases-like the documentary one recently where 2 cops using other cops as pretend dealers etc got a guy who they suspected of a murder from decades earlier to commit various crimes under the guise of them being a crime bigwig & his underling & ended up with them getting him to dispose of a dead body which was really a dummy rolled up in carpet/tarp & bound & then tried forced him under threat of killing him that he had to tell them about something bad he had done & of course he said he had killed the woman-he ended up in jail for 5 years before the bs was thrown out. Nobody forced Weaver to modify guns illegally.Wrong. They provided the gun and cash. Said they'd pay him (a lot of money to him because he wasn't working) to cut the stock so he did. Then said be a snitch for the fbi or go to jail.
Entrapment
the action of tricking someone into committing a crime in order to secure their prosecution
If this wasn't a massive fuk up by the govt why did each surviving member of the family get $1M?
Entrapment
the action of tricking someone into committing a crime in order to secure their prosecution
If this wasn't a massive fuk up by the govt why did each surviving member of the family get $1M?
I didn't say it wasn't an f up-the lawsuit was paid because after the initial incident the agents had been authorised to engage him in gunfire as long as nobody else was endangered-clearly shooting his wife through the head while she was holding a baby was wrong & in fragrant breach of that. However, as I have said him & his wife bought it all on themself by their behaviour & him hiding away for 16 months refusing to face justice, his idiot friend Harris killing an agent & them sending their kids out armed with guns to intercept anybody coming onto their property-knowing either the agents wouldn't go any further or the kids would fire & be shot/killed in return. He ended up doing 18 months for the 1989 crime anyway-so what was the point of it all?
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Originally Posted By SleepWithFan89⏩
Would be like banging one of the Phelps daughters.Damn you dated one of his daughters
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Originally Posted By jimbob007⏩
Oh well. I got you next time.You gave me reps, not negs while calling me a stupid ass.
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps⏩
That just evens out, so pointless really-just like Weaver's actions.Oh well. I got you next time.
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Originally Posted By Leonydus⏩
This but LET'S ALL GIVE UP OUR GUNS BOYOS!!! IT'LL BE A MUCH SAFER PLACE AFTERWARDS, SURELY!!! hueheuRip


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