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Originally Posted By Ken-O
I do want a family. I want kids. My parents are getting too old and id want them to meet their grand kids.

I just feel like every guy in my shoes goes for both options lol. Have the traditional family while having other chicks on the side. Never thought of myself as a hypersexual person that cant stay in control of his desires but lately, as im reaching my prime, the attention im getting is way too intriguing.
I get where you're coming from but my dad cheating on my mom screwed my life up in several different ways. I've always made it fine but my life was a hell of a lot harder than it would have been if my dad could've kept his dink in his pants so that's why I'm the way I am. Kids are always collateral damage when chit goes south
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Originally Posted By WHChampion
I don't believe this unless you were a 1 out of a million turbochad like a movie star.
She approached me first too (srs). Im not 1 in a 1,000,000, you dont need to be. Maybe 1 in 10,000
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Wait a minute bro. In all of our exchanges you have always had the stance that the world is different for your generation vs mine. How dating is different etc and I was accepting of the fact that the world is in fact different but also foundationally pretty much the same.

Come to find out you are dating some instagram chick you met at the gym while secretly/subtly grinding on sloots at a bar. Doesnt sound like much has changed. Its you and your surroundings bro.

Part of it is time (men tend to mature as they get older) and the other part of it is you (you dont seem to surround yourself with quality people - at least from your stories - example - no way would i "date" an instagram model chick and expect it to be anything more than a fling/fun." And if thats the case, its really not cheating if you are up front and honest about it right?
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
I do want a family. I want kids. My parents are getting too old and id want them to meet their grand kids.
You can't have it all. I'm trying to remember that one internet celebrity who told women this all the time but the name is slipping me. Anyway, every major choice in life comes with consequences and responsibilities. If you want to be free and bang women around the world, you can do it but at the expense of a family. If you want to settle and have kids, as a man you sign an invisible but powerful contract of duty towards keeping your family safe and together. You cannot live the degen lifestyle and cheat on your wife all the time and still raise decent, well adjusted kids.


All that being said, I'd never wife up a girl who is extremely hot, has 50k subs and an intensely high libido. You don't gain 50k subs by not getting off on attention from men.

Godspeed OP.
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1
It's almost if the miscers are dysfunctional even when they've got it good.

Only a small percentage of people have good relationships here.

lol at taking advice
It's the curse, man. Brahs who fukk can relate.

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Originally Posted By VSVP84
Getting older, I began thinking more with my post-nut mind. As in, what happens after I nut? Cause that's what's most important.

Will she be chill to be around everyday?
Does she have an income/network to tap into?
How will she age?
Are her friends bad influences?
Natural motherly instincts?

These are the questions I try to think about if something more serious is developing. Then when someone new comes along, and the above qualifications are met, it's more of a safe bet to cheat. If you get caught there's someone better already on your arm.
1000% this. This is the clarity and maturity I am talking about. You bang for maybe what....1 hour a day max? What about the rest of your waking hours?
That chick better checka lot of boxes vs just "looks great with a big arse and slim waste" LOL GTFO
post 1662541313 06-08-2022, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted By donblaximus
Wait a minute bro. In all of our exchanges you have always had the stance that the world is different for your generation vs mine. How dating is different etc and I was accepting of the fact that the world is in fact different but also foundationally pretty much the same.

Come to find out you are dating some instagram chick you met at the gym while secretly/subtly grinding on sloots at a bar. Doesnt sound like much has changed. Its you and your surroundings bro.

Part of it is time (men tend to mature as they get older) and the other part of it is you (you dont seem to surround yourself with quality people - at least from your stories - example - no way would i "date" an instagram model chick and expect it to be anything more than a fling/fun." And if thats the case, its really not cheating if you are up front and honest about it right?
Every attractive woman has Instagram nowadays. And as I said in OP she’s willing to delete all of that btw.

And yeah, humans haven’t changed, just technology and ideals.
Originally Posted By Coal
You can't have it all. I'm trying to remember that one internet celebrity who told women this all the time but the name is slipping me. Anyway, every major choice in life comes with consequences and responsibilities. If you want to be free and bang women around the world, you can do it but at the expense of a family. If you want to settle and have kids, as a man you sign an invisible but powerful contract of duty towards keeping your family safe and together. You cannot live the degen lifestyle and cheat on your wife all the time and still raise decent, well adjusted kids.


All that being said, I'd never wife up a girl who is extremely hot, has 50k subs and an intensely high libido. You don't gain 50k subs by not getting off on attention from men.

Godspeed OP.
You’ve got a good point at the end. That’s a major red flag regardless of her being willing to let all that go
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Originally Posted By DDSF1
You are self-destructive.
This.

And you can be monogamous, but you won’t be. There’s a big difference. Either is fine but be honest about it, you’re simply unwilling to do so.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Yeah, im fully aware of that. In todays society you cant really be open and honest about that. I consider myself a top 5% kind of guy, but to openly get away with that id have to be a top .01% or something like that, where the woman goes "okay yeah makes sense fuk it".

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I have met a lot of people in my adult life both casually and professionally. I have been around some big money with some smoke show wives. I have yet to find one self respecting woman that would be old fashion and classy enough to be marraige material in my mind that would be "ok" with the set up of "ill be your main chick and im totally fine with you hooking up with others while I dont"

Thats an immediate sign of lack of self respect which is a no go.
Now if you had a relationship that was truly open......say both say they love one another and are just banging other people to fulfill their "primal needs" then that would seem more plausible.
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Same thing happens to me i have a loyal gf but can't go anywhere without girls flirting

Even milfs that have husbands will come up trying to flirt like aren't you married lmao
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Every attractive woman has Instagram nowadays. And as I said in OP she’s willing to delete all of that btw.

And yeah, humans haven’t changed, just technology and ideals.
I can agree with you there. I wouldnt say "all" but I would say majority do have instagram or social yes. That being said I have cousins that are in their early 20's. They are good looking women. A few are in med school, one in consulting and one owns a bakery. I also have a few that are average looking but they are not part of the equation in this disucssion. They do have instagram but its really just for friends and family. They post dumb pics like all other girls but i dont see any in bikinis, lingerie, sexual etc. They dont have a bunch of followers that they dont know etc. Really just friends and family. They have self respect and were raised with old school morals.

You say she is willing to delete it all. But the fact that she had it at all like that in the first place is the issue. You are either raised to be classy or you are not. There are very very few women that are both good looking and classy in this world. I dont care if you are 22, 42. Everyone generation has majority trash women/people in general and only a very small amount of high quality.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus
I have met a lot of people in my adult life both casually and professionally. I have been around some big money with some smoke show wives. I have yet to find one self respecting woman that would be old fashion and classy enough to be marraige material in my mind that would be "ok" with the set up of "ill be your main chick and im totally fine with you hooking up with others while I dont"

Thats an immediate sign of lack of self respect which is a no go.
Now if you had a relationship that was truly open......say both say they love one another and are just banging other people to fulfill their "primal needs" then that would seem more plausible.
Yeah, on paper every high value man is supposedly a righteous knight with impeccable morals.

We all know what’s really going on behind closed doors
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Originally Posted By donblaximus
I can agree with you there. I wouldnt say "all" but I would say majority do have instagram or social yes. That being said I have cousins that are in their early 20's. They are good looking women. A few are in med school, one in consulting and one owns a bakery. I also have a few that are average looking but they are not part of the equation in this disucssion. They do have instagram but its really just for friends and family. They post dumb pics like all other girls but i dont see any in bikinis, lingerie, sexual etc. They dont have a bunch of followers that they dont know etc. Really just friends and family. They have self respect and were raised with old school morals.
Then they are high quality girls and a rare breed .
"The flowers bloom, then wither... The stars shine and one day become extinct. This earth, the sun, the galaxies and even the big universe, someday will be destroyed. Compared with that, the human life is only a blink, just a little time. In that short time - people are born, laugh, cry, fight, are injured, feel joy, sadness, hate someone, love someone. All in just a moment. And then, are embraced by the eternal sleep called death."
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Joined a new gym in january and saw this 9/10 ridiculously hot girl on the first day, find out that she has like 50k followers on instagram, she has tiktok, you know the typical generation z dream for young girls. Fast forward 4 months and we are seeing each other. Picture below, could post hundreds but dont want misc detectives ruining my life:






Surprisingly, she is willing to delete her social media and all that bull****. Told her all the typical **** that i post here on the misc about everything and somehow she understood and agreed on how toxic it is, and apparently shes willing to move on from that to more important things like a healthy relationship and etc.

Shes smart, insanely hot (perfect big ass on an LTC waist and shape), beautiful face, etc. Sexually we are a perfect match (may be a bit of a redflag since im a freak lol)

Yes, sounds like im bragging, maybe i am, but the point of this thread isnt that. I always saw myself as a man of integrity and that someday id be able to settle down, have a traditional family, kids, private school, WITHOUT needing to fool around outside of the marriage. Never considered myself to be a person that falls weak to their natural instincts.


But lately i cant take the though out of my mind of fuking other chicks. Im perfectly happy with new girl but even then i cant see myself just fukin her for the rest of my life. Hot young women look at me and flirt with me everywhere i go (no EOD), and makes me wonder how the fuk could a man with those kind of options possibly be monogamous? When girls give me those eyes, i cant help myself to not picture them naked on my bed. Last week we were at a crowded bar, i was clearly with her, holding hands and ****, and i locked eyes with some LTC brunette on another side of the bar, she gave me the eyes. Half an hour later and this girl gets behind me, we are back to back, and shes grinding on me while im facing my girl, it was very crowded so it didnt really look weird, but i knew what she was doing and i think it was hot as fuk...


On top of that, there's always the thought of "sloots gonna sloot", and i know it most likely its just my turn with current girl, nothing else. She claims to be sure but we all know how human beings are, things can change in one day.


So basically my options are either stay single and slay HBBs as long as i can, or marry someone and be a cheater just like anybody else. What do?
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Yeah, on paper every high value man is supposedly a righteous knight with impeccable morals.

We all know what’s really going on behind closed doors
A lot of those big net worth people had problems. Everyone has problems.
Having thoughts about other people is not abnormal. I think thats human nature. Acting upon them if you had an oath to another individual which you chose to have kids with is a completely different thing. That takes a ton of conscious decision making. You dont have kids yet. It would take a pretty crazy circumstance for me to crush my kid's world for a nut.
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Originally Posted By Evolutionary1
She's willing to delete socials so you should be able to not smash Randoms in exchange is what I'm seeing
Yeah I was going to say this. She's willing to resist her biological urges of being an attention whore but you're not willing to resist your urges of being a manwhore. Strong hypocrisy, double standards, sloots gonna sloot, etc.

By the way I think it's funny men use the spread muh seed muh biology excuse to validate their behavior but you're pulling out each time. It's all really just masturbation at it's core when you think about it.

If your biological urges are okay unchecked then so are her's. Except they're not and neither are yours.
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My experience is that women are willing to 'share' you if you are a mega Chad and open with your intentions. They might get jealous or whatever if you **** another girl but 9 times out of 10 they will just accept it and move on. If you make them feel a certain way they will not leave you regardless of how many sloots you want to go and bang
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
She approached me first too (srs). Im not 1 in a 1,000,000, you dont need to be. Maybe 1 in 10,000
I'd like to be leaf but social media is the entire lives of these young sloots. Gym, traveling, food, etc are all done to be documented for the gram srs.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
Then they are high quality girls and a rare breed .
Thats what a top 1% person should be looking for. Dont accept anything less. (Everyone needs to be honest with themselves about where they sit)
There is no way a self respecting old school chick has a pic like the one you posted on the internet. Call me old fashioned. The first thing I did after the first date with my now wife was google her name and information to see if there were any pics like that or worse on the web. I would have instantly put her in a box.

Most people go through life not being honest with themselves. They create a world of subtle BS that feeds their ego. I do it.......and I know many others that do.
Thats why I picked up Jiu Jitsu. It is one of the very few things that I have experienced in life that brings all truths to light. You cant fake your way through any of it. You either know it or you dont.....and every day on that matt you will know where you stand......and everything is exposed.
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Originally Posted By donblaximus
Thats what a top 1% person should be looking for. Dont accept anything less. (Everyone needs to be honest with themselves about where they sit)
There is no way a self respecting old school chick has a pic like the one you posted on the internet. Call me old fashioned. The first thing I did after the first date with my now wife was google her name and information to see if there were any pics like that or worse on the web. I would have instantly put her in a box.

Most people go through life not being honest with themselves. They create a world of subtle BS that feeds their ego. I do it.......and I know many others that do.
Thats why I picked up Jiu Jitsu. It is one of the very few things that I have experienced in life that brings all truths to light. You cant fake your way through any of it. You either know it or you dont.....and every day on that matt you will know where you stand......and everything is exposed.
I think you are spot on. Still don’t know if I’d be able to stay monogamous to that type of girl but chances are def higher.

Im just being 100% honest, I don’t know if I can turn off that switch of wanting other women.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O
I think you are spot on. Still don’t know if I’d be able to stay monogamous to that type of girl but chances are def higher.

Im just being 100% honest, I don’t know if I can turn off that switch of wanting other women.
As stated, I think its completely human to want other women. Whether you indulge upon it or not is the key.
I also think its completely human to be a lazy fock with zero discipline. Nobody wants to get out of bed at 4 am to get on a matt and get their arse kicked by a 25 year old kid.
Most people want to sit around and do jack chit and ask someone else to take care of them. And thats what they do.
Same for sexual instincts. A lot of people indulge. And like others have said.....if you are single or open/honest about it......I dont see an issue.
But if you are trying to raise a family and are running around indulging....I see issue as kids will pick up on the lack of trust in the relationship etc.

Be young, have fun maybe your priorities change and maybe they dont. Just be open and honest with yourself and others. Some fall into the trap and say "i will change when it matters".....but the true test of a person is how they act when nobody is watching or when they think "it doesnt matter"
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Originally Posted By TBO1313
It's called self control boyo. If you want a family learn it and if you don't want a family there's no reason to tie yourself down
Or learn to keep your lips tight or buy escorts if you decide to have a family.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Meh she looks 7/10 absolute max being generous.
This is some quality trolling right here.
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Sounds like you need to ask yourself what you're missing in this relationship if you can't 'turn that switch off'.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
How would you know what those “big money” guys do in their personal time lmao. They are prob all cheating on their wives srs
A lot of these big money guys were my business partners and colleagues. How do I know what they do on their "personal time"......i have been on trips with them. We have travelled all through the world together. Its pretty easy to tell what a person is all about if you are looking at enough details. You also have to remember these are people that you have built trust with over time. People are usually pretty damn open about their lives if you are looking at details.

And I never said those guys werent cheating on their wives. If you re-read my statement....I have yet to run into one wife that was openly cool about their man banging other women while they remained faithful.
post 1662543613 06-08-2022, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted By littlemissy
Sounds like you need to ask yourself what you're missing in this relationship if you can't 'turn that switch off'.
I dont believe something has to be missing if he happens to have wondering eyes for a hot girl at a bar. Going anything beyond a quick thought however should be examined.
For this scenario my read is this......I think OP comes across as a logical and smart dude. Deep down inside he knows his current girl is probably a sloot. Thats why hes subconsciously protecting himself from the inevitable.
post 1662543653 06-08-2022, 02:04 PM
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LOL @ mentally ill OP rustling all the misc incels and fappers.
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post 1662543823 06-08-2022, 02:10 PM
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I too thought I was a man of integrity (in regards to women) OP. I have a good 1 that checks every box and its a struggle to not be a degen.


Edit: I constantly remind myself that the grass isn't always greener.
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