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post 1663470893 06-26-2022, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
On the other hand, we need to see this duplicated in other population groups. If it isnt, then we have better case that there is behavioral or some other factor. Looking for US data for 2022, cant find much.
Honestly if the numbers were this staggering, it would be hidden/shadow banned.

We all know the CPI numbers aren't right, why would this be any different?
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Wont go that far, births are a hard number to skew. You can mislabel other things but births? That would require way too much coordination among a large group of people to skew.
As opposed to the fact that a gallon of milk costs 60% more, but they tell me it's 13%?

They'll lie, and not care if everyone knows the truth.
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Depopulation is the name of the game, and has been since they started working on manmade viruses and mRNA shots.
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post 1663471313 06-26-2022, 09:12 AM
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post 1663471373 06-26-2022, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
what I mean is each state or country reports vital statistics. In the US, that would require all 50 states to lie about births. Can the CDC get each state to inflate numbers? I dont think so imo.
If the last 2 years have taught me ANYTHING, then yes..... Yes they will.
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
This is another textbook example ofpost hoc, ergo propter hoc.: After this, therefore because of this.

It's a very common argument by the Chicken Nugget Crew, and notice there's not actually any rigorous scientific argument as to why it's causing infertility; just a vague hand wave to the LNPs.

The actual pharmacovigilance data ( the gold standard when assessing a vaccine safety) on the vaccines are fairly unanimous: The vaccines are safe and well-tolerated in hundreds of millions of cases--with a system sensitive enough to detect one in a thousand % events--and there is no biochemical plausibility by which the vaccine could cause a long-term issue down the road.

Response to this? Insults and childishness, as per usual.
Sigh...

It's a signal and a hypothesis.

And I've posted up re: safety and effectiveness. One recent study was still in pre-print. This one is published.



Link to study in my post:

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1663451373
Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
That quarter data is alarming but it is possible that the effects of the vaccine cause shorter term issues with pregnancy and eventually the effects of thr vaccine wear off over time as the body heals. We would need to track the pregnancy rate over time to ascertain if there is a permanent change in the ability of women to get pregnant.

That being said, even if the vaccine does cause reproductive issues even in the short term but resolve over time ,it is not supposed to do that and that is a massive issue
Completely fair.
Originally Posted By keels141
Maybe...will be interesting to see the births and deaths figures come out this year.

Birth rates and all cause mortality are two data points that are hard to manipulate, and the frustrating thing is how much manipulation of the data there has been over the last two years:

- Covid deaths being manipulated (any death with a positive PCR within 28 days was treated as a covid death - even if you died from a car accident on day 27 and tested positive)
- Deaths within 14 days of taking the vaccine treated as an "unvaccinated death"
- PCR tests themselves being run at >35 cycles, making them meaningless. PCR test inventor Kary Mullis has said the PCR test should never have been used as a diagnostic tool in the first place.

The list goes on...anyway the data will trickle out slowly one way or the other.
One would think, yeah. The main media have remained very quiet on the spike in all cause mortality.
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I don't know brah but I'd start with asking myself whereJikkyleaks (Fan account)took the data from
From the German government. Not exactly a hotbed of conspiracy theories...
Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Fair point. This does show a drop off in 2022, but still need more data.What the OP was showing was the average monthly birth rate for the first quarter of 2022. The graph was accurate, just unclear.

https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/So...E28E07.live732
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
If that's monthly average, that would correlate with the 800k.... And is troubling.
Yes, like the big jump in all cause mortality if this continues it may be quite bad.

We were already facing a shrinking economic picture [falling birth rates, aging population].

higher all cause mortality + lower birthrates = population falling even faster, less time to adapt
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post 1663480113 06-26-2022, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
The actual pharmacovigilance data ( the gold standard when assessing a vaccine safety) on the vaccines are fairly unanimous:The vaccines are safe and well-tolerated in hundreds of millions of cases--with a system sensitive enough to detect one in a thousand % events--and there is no biochemical plausibility by which the vaccine could cause a long-term issue down the road.


Response to this? Insults and childishness, as per usual.
Is this why Pfizer falsified their findings?
Is this why they wanted to seal their trials data for 75 years?

LOL!
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel
Depopulation is the name of the game, and has been since they started working on manmade viruses and mRNA shots.
Gawd I wish this were real. If so, I wouldn’t even be mad.

In reality, there is no conspiracy. We just have an ineffective and potentially risky vaccine that was pushed through because of greed and hubris.
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Originally Posted By explosiveMidget
it's literally a lethal injection and billions of people will be dead by 2030
2030??
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Originally Posted By explosiveMidget
that's a generous estimate
explanation??
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
This is another textbook example ofpost hoc, ergo propter hoc.: After this, therefore because of this.



It's a very common argument by the Chicken Nugget Crew, and notice there's not actually any rigorous scientific argument as to why it's causing infertility; just a vague hand wave to the LNPs.


The actual pharmacovigilance data ( the gold standard when assessing a vaccine safety) on the vaccines are fairly unanimous: The vaccines are safe and well-tolerated in hundreds of millions of cases--with a system sensitive enough to detect one in a thousand % events--and there is no biochemical plausibility by which the vaccine could cause a long-term issue down the road.


Response to this? Insults and childishness, as per usual.
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...en-donors.aspx
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Originally Posted By thigoonar
LMFAOOO!

what a bunch of lying cnts LOL who would listen to these fcks
post 1663486763 06-26-2022, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted By thigoonar
LMFAOOO!

Love this video. The intentional dishonesty is astounding.

I read the first pfizer trial, and NONE of what they're saying was displayed in that trial. They basically just made it up.
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Originally Posted By thigoonar
LMFAOOO!

Nice work whoever compiled this...

"...but we never said that."

ETA:
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Love this video. The intentional dishonesty is astounding.

I read the first pfizer trial, and NONE of what they're saying was displayed in that trial. They basically just made it up.
And this. They straight up lied. Said stuff that wasn't in the trial data at all.





More recently you get people saying that the shots are safe. The science is in and the government watchdogs are on the case.

And then it came out that the promised safety evaluations weren't being done.



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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Jikkyleaks.

Strong AF source.
This account is actually quite credible based on their track record over the last 2 years.

Unfortunately this anonymous twitter account has provided more accurate info than the authorities we are supposed to rely on.

Sad state of affairs when the government authorities have proven themselves to be so corrupt and morally bankrupt. It is human nature to trust others and this has been abused.

I would like nothing more than to believe what the people in power are telling me, but they have proven time and again that they are flat out lying (you won't get covid if you get the vaccine, you won't spread it) or manipulate data (PCR tests, deathsfromcovid vwithcovid etc). It is not good for people to be armchair epidemiologists, but many feel forced to because the CDC, FDA, Pfizer and Moderna are so untrustworthy.

I can understand that Pfizer and Moderna have a profit motive, but for the people that are supposed to be regulating them to be so corrupt is terrible. The FDA and CDC have likely done decades of damage to public health with their conduct, it will likely spill over to distrust in other proven vaccines (such as polio).

I think the problems are:
- regulatory capture and
- conflicts of interest

Regulatory capture because the FDA and CDC get a massive amount of funding from Big Pharma.

Conflicts of interest because all the government employees are getting royalties from Big Pharma as well.

And that's before we even get to Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, CEPI, Wellcome Trust etc. funding the WHO.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
That quarter data is alarming but it is possible that the effects of the vaccine cause shorter term issues with pregnancy and eventually the effects of thr vaccine wear off over time as the body heals. We would need to track the pregnancy rate over time to ascertain if there is a permanent change in the ability of women to get pregnant.

That being said, even if the vaccine does cause reproductive issues even in the short term but resolve over time ,it is not supposed to do that and that is a massive issue
This is my initial thought as well.

I’m reserving judgment on this, until I see more information and see how this study was conducted.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
That quarter data is alarming but it is possible that the effects of the vaccine cause shorter term issues with pregnancy and eventually the effects of thr vaccine wear off over time as the body heals. We would need to track the pregnancy rate over time to ascertain if there is a permanent change in the ability of women to get pregnant.

That being said, even if the vaccine does cause reproductive issues even in the short term but resolve over time ,it is not supposed to do that and that is a massive issue
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
its not a study, its just raw data. We need a longer time of data collection to see if the pattern continues, then a study to find out why.
Right.

But also I just saw this on Taiwan:



Link to report that is claimed as the source of this data:

https://www.ris.gov.tw/app/en/2121?sn=22161405

ETA: important caveat from the publisher of the chart-
I inputted historical birth rate data from Macrotrends for the years 2009-2021, and added the year 2022 as year 2021 adjusted down by 23.24%. Obviously, 2022 is not over and the number of Taiwanese babies to be born this year (or during the next 12 months) is unknown. So the chart below is an illustration of what would happen in the next 12 months if the 23.24% drop stays constant.
Also:
Taiwan was a poster child for successful vaccination. 91% of all Taiwanese residents received a vaccine dose. By October 1, 2021, 56% of ALL people of Taiwan received Covid vaccines.
Link:

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/de...tion-of-taiwan
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Originally Posted By katya422
Right.

But also I just saw this on Taiwan:



Link to report that is claimed as the source of this data:

https://www.ris.gov.tw/app/en/2121?sn=22161405

ETA: important caveat from the publisher of the chart-



Also:



Link:

https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/de...tion-of-taiwan
Homie took data from 3 months, extrapolated it to a full year, and then "published" data saying the 23% drop was for the year.

I'm all for evaluating the data but fuk me, at least have some honesty beyond a minor caveat that NO ONE except Katya is going to read.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Homie took data from 3 months, extrapolated it to a full year, and then "published" data saying the 23% drop was for the year.

I'm all for evaluating the data but fuk me, at least have some honesty beyond a minor caveat thatNO ONE except Katya is going to read.
Yeah I'm weird like that about things that seem important...reading, that is.

But even I don't read the massive multi-page tiny print crap "disclosures".

When I first saw the claim of lowered birth rates I tried to find a single source with recent data, or even a source that covered a large area like the EU. IIRC I didn't find anything post 2019 or 2020. Doesn't mean there is a cover up, but seemed odd that 2021 birth statistics wouldn't be easy to find this far in to 2022.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Did you get your second booster of Comirnaty yet?

Oh wait, you actually admitted that your government published intentionally misleading information on their website, and Comirnaty wasneveravailable in beaverland. Only took about six months of flopping all over the place while you desperately tried to find a singular vial of Comirnaty to take a pic of.
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