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post 1666400343 08-19-2022, 03:28 PM
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This article is exactly why the term bluepill exists.

In a generation from 1990-2020, we've gone from 5% of dudes not getting any to 30% of dudes not getting any. The marriage rate and birth rate are both diving off a cliff. It's legitimate to ask why so many men are single today vs even just 20 years ago.

In this case, the New Yorker answers it with a comfortable lie - that these guys are all just entitled rapists and domestic terrorists andshouldbe single - rather than looking into some uncomfortable truths.
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The article was 100% on point. Incels are nothing but sad little angry snowflake boys who feel that they deserve something from life.

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post 1666400513 08-19-2022, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By FA*******
This article is exactly why the term bluepill exists.

In a generation from 1990-2020, we've gone from 5% of dudes not getting any to 30% of dudes not getting any. The marriage rate and birth rate are both diving off a cliff. It's legitimate to ask why so many men are single today vs even just 20 years ago.

In this case, the New Yorker answers it with a comfortable lie - that these guys are all just entitled rapists and domestic terrorists andshouldbe single - rather than looking into some uncomfortable truths.
Everything the anti-incel types say is a comfortable lie. Incels are simply their scapegoats, an easy target for them to point at and blame all their problems on.
post 1666400713 08-19-2022, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By FA*******
It's always been a mainstream-leftist rag.
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post 1666400873 08-19-2022, 03:36 PM
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post 1666401203 08-19-2022, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted By FA*******
This article is exactly why the term bluepill exists.

In a generation from 1990-2020, we've gone from 5% of dudes not getting any to 30% of dudes not getting any. The marriage rate and birth rate are both diving off a cliff. It's legitimate to ask why so many men are single today vs even just 20 years ago.

In this case, the New Yorker answers it with a comfortable lie - that these guys are all just entitled rapists and domestic terrorists andshouldbe single - rather than looking into some uncomfortable truths.
It's definitely legitimate to ask why so many men feel isolated, alone, and are single. More attention should be paid to that.

What's not legitimate is the incel mindset: Never look inward, externalize all faults.
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Originally Posted By leafs43
Most incels have lived a life of loneliness, have little to no accomplishments and are largely an afterthought in society. They don't know how to socialize with other people.
Yeah wtf im not part of some terrorist org looking to get pussy as my jihad. I just cant.
post 1666401453 08-19-2022, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
What's not legitimate is the incel mindset: Never look inward, externalize all faults.
Funny, that's also the female mindset.
post 1666401813 08-19-2022, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
It's definitely legitimate to ask why so many men feel isolated, alone, and are single. More attention should be paid to that.

What's not legitimate is the incel mindset: Never look inward, externalize all faults.
Yeah, the problem is that when more incels look inward about how it’s their fault that they are bald, short and ugly, some arrive at the conclusion that they need to shoot people.
post 1666402883 08-19-2022, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Funny, that's also the female mindset.
we can't change the world unless we change ourselves
post 1666405343 08-19-2022, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Funny, that's also the female mindset.
Brah, you're actually displaying the mindset I was referring to with this post.
post 1666405453 08-19-2022, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Everything the anti-incel types say is a comfortable lie. Incels are simply their scapegoats, an easy target for them to point at and blame all their problems on.
Jay has one of the highest IQ's on the misc dude is always spitting facts

Incel is literally a feminist label put on men who don't get laid
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post 1666405623 08-19-2022, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By eod8989
Jay has one of the highest IQ's on the misc dude is always spitting facts

Incel is literally a feminist label put on men who don't get laid
Then why do so many self-indentify and seek out toxic online spaces?
post 1666406203 08-19-2022, 05:34 PM
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clearly written by a fat, ugly feminist
post 1666410633 08-19-2022, 06:56 PM
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post 1666410943 08-19-2022, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002
Society does suck, but bitterness and resentment are never the answer.
Fairness is not guaranteed, but there is a better way to try.

Lots dismiss ideals because they do not seem fair, which does not make it better to not try for what you do want.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Funny, that's also the female mindset.
this is what fear in the face if adversity looks like.

you can only fight your own fight
post 1666422713 08-19-2022, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Yeah men are total scum bags for that, meanwhile women are strong and beautiful for all their antics on social media.

It's impossible to hate on incels without insane double standards for women these days.
Correct

Incels are partially responsible because they're usually terrible looking (either genetically or self inflicted) have crappy jobs (partly due to the former; halo effect) but also cos they have no drive or ambition - and have terrible social skills due to lack of experiences (due to the former 2 points) but also cos they dedicate their lives to computer games.

Re. Computer games incels typically play RPGs because they hate their life so much so they create a dual fantasy existence online. That's the only genre you can do this in. This just exacerbates the problem though because they now have even less reason reason to improve their life.

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WITH ALL THAT SAID

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yes incels are partly the problem due to above but also its the immensely unrealistic standards women have for men, feminism, poor cultural values, poor family values raise slurry ignorant and downright disrespectful women, etc etc. Social media, online dating (which is aimed at women).

As has been posted before, women follow. They are to blame but only by proxy. Society tells them covertly what to do and how to think/feel. Men are supposed to take charge (and see through this programming) but we have weak men as well so they don't ergo incels.

Women [read: society] is to blame but also weak men raising weak children results in incels. As an aside, absent fathers usually have the same affect. Due to divorce or just non chalance. Most of the guys I know who had divorced parents ended up fukked up in some way psychologically [they can't see it but I/a healthily socialised person could] or are incels/or they get laid but with like 3/10s.

The problem is so, so convoluted. I didn't even read the article in the op but I guarantee you the woman has no fukking clue what she's talking about.

This is an IMMENSE problem in our current society and is going to be one of the main reasons for the downfall. Articles like this are exacerbating the problem. But it's written by an ugly feminist as someone else pointed out, so why would she have any societal awareness outside her instagram feed.
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Originally Posted By smashedurgfx10
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This is an IMMENSE problem in our current society and is going to be one of the main reasons for the downfall. Articles like this are exacerbating the problem. But it's written by an ugly feminist as someone else pointed out, so why would she have any societal awareness outside her instagram feed.
Organizing society with the values from modern religions, without the supernatural part, more or less answers all major questions everyone falls off with.

Comparing most problems against the framework of traditional religious order shows social mistakes virtually 100% of the time, similar to how you compare a child of divorce with a healthy family.
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just fkn lol at people being so supportive of pride/lgbt when it basically all boils down to sex, but then have zero empathy for incels (who are usually in their situation basically out of failed genetics)
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
everything is stacked in womens favor in modern society

if i didnt make decent money and have decent looks with a well above average penis and great sex skills, i would be roping.

20 years ago below average men just married someone from their social circle, usually the first woman to show them attention. these days below average women are all fuking Chad on tinder and their looks match are stuck rotting, they have given up
Not all sub-8 women are fuking chad though, and many women are not even on tinder.
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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Meanwhile they have no problem with the current dating app culture where women want an extremely limited and specific demographic of men, where they are able to have sex on demand with young beautiful men, and the media seems to think that's all natural, healthy, and a right.

Sorry ladies but you gotta fix yourselves before you can point your fingers at anyone else creating problems in the dating world.
This, but you can't mention it because it would be seen as sexist.....The double standards and hypocrisy in society is staggering.
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Originally Posted By Rebel012
According to the author: "What incels want is extremely limited and specific: they want to be able to have sex on demand with young, beautiful women. They believe that this is a natural right."

In other words, entitlement. Thoughts?

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cu...-of-the-incels
They expect a charity service. Yet, when the young beautiful women ask them to lift a finger, they refuse. "Help me because I'm getting raped at home by my old man." Response from incel: "do it yourself." Fukk human males. They take the sex, and give nothing, not even a bottle of fukking water.
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Originally Posted By MegaSloot
They expect a charity service. Yet, when the young beautiful women ask them to lift a finger, they refuse. "Help me because I'm getting raped at home by my old man." Response from incel: "do it yourself." Fukk human males. They take the sex, and give nothing, not even a bottle of fukking water.
Lots of unpacked trauma here.
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Originally Posted By MegaSloot
They expect a charity service. Yet, when the young beautiful women ask them to lift a finger, they refuse. "Help me because I'm getting raped at home by my old man." Response from incel: "do it yourself." Fukk human males. They take the sex, and give nothing, not even a bottle of fukking water.
shut up sloot, every woman i sex already gets multiple orgasms and now you think i should give them water too. women want everything.
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Who cares what they want
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