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Not sure how you equate Saturn with Satan since he predates Hebrew writing by a millennium. And he's basically the Roman/Greek version of Santa Claus.

Encyclopedia Britannica

Saturn, Latin Saturnus, in Roman religion, the god of sowing or seed. The Romans equated him with the Greek agricultural deity Cronus. The remains of Saturn’s temple at Rome, eight columns of the pronaos (porch), still dominate the west end of the Forum at the foot of the Clivus Capitolinus. The temple goes back to the earliest records of the republic (6th century BCE). It was restored by Lucius Munatius Plancus in 42 BCE and, after a fire, in the 4th century CE. It served as the treasury (aerarium Saturni) of the Roman state. Saturn’s cult partner was the obscure goddess Lua, whose name is connected with lues (plague or destruction), but he was also associated with Ops, another obscure goddess (perhaps the goddess of abundance), the cult partner of Consus, probably a god of grain storage.

In Roman myth Saturn was identified with the Greek Cronus. Exiled from Olympus by Zeus, he ruled Latium in a happy and innocent golden age, where he taught his people agriculture and other peaceful arts. In myth he was the father of Picus.

Saturn’s great festival, the Saturnalia, became the most popular of Roman festivals, and its influence is still felt in the celebration of Christmas and the Western world’s New Year. The Saturnalia was originally celebrated on December 17, but it was later extended to seven days. It was the merriest festival of the year: all work and business were suspended; slaves were given temporary freedom to say and do what they liked; certain moral restrictions were eased; and presents were freely exchanged. The weekday Saturday (Latin Saturni dies) was named for Saturn.
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You do realize the tarot that a lot of this made up mysticism comes from was just an ancient every day card game?

All of the occult mumbo jumbo sprang from 18th century and on conspiracy theorists trying to sell books.
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The whole Saturn movement is a push to get you focused on the Creation and Satan/Saturn, rather than the Creator. The Zodiac did originate from the Judeo-Christian religion. Virgo-Virgin Birth of Christ, Leo-The lion of Judah (Christ), I looked into this Saturn stuff awhile ago, and though there are some nuggets of truth, that's what the enemy does, presents a bit of truth to take you down a path of destruction...when you research deep enough, you'll see how Satanic it all is.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel⏩
Occult symbolism represents almost every major company. Like sigils of demonic entities. One could argue the power some monopolies holds is like the manifestation of demonic entities into culture itself.
Ah, yeah, that does make sense as he starts the discussion of the cube with Apple and their big glass cube [prison] with an apple that has a bite taken out of it [original sin]. Also that squares and other occult symbolism is used in a lot of logos.



And, to riff off of that, if you start from the premise that Satan wants humans to fall in love with their prison [the World] then it seems rather blatant that many corporations appeal to the seven deadly sins to promote the sale of their products.
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Already really with familiar with the Saturn stuff. It's certainly interesting....I wasn't aware of the theory that some people think there are fallen angels residing on Saturn.I do know some believe the rings are artificial (and there have been photos of large objects in the rings found that allegedly look like they are pumping shyt into the rings to maintain them) and potentially serve as like some sort of broadcasting like device.

The moon is supposed to have a lot of odd characteristics that some believe suggest it is inhabited and possibly even an artificial craft (giant space craft essentially).

Interesting theories...


TFS. I wasn't aware of those stories.
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Dates of 9/11 and the Vegas massacre both have interesting/coincindental charts
I've never looked into it, but after watching this I can't say that the 9/11 one is at all surprising. I looked it up and saw that the date for the mass shooting in Las Vegas was 10/01/2017 though I'm not aware of the significance. I have seen rumors online that it was some sort of intentional operation and not just a random person going off.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
Not sure how you equate Saturn with Satan since he predates Hebrew writing by a millennium. And he's basically the Roman/Greek version of Santa Claus.

Encyclopedia Britannica

Saturn, Latin Saturnus, in Roman religion, the god of sowing or seed. The Romans equated him with the Greek agricultural deity Cronus. The remains of Saturn’s temple at Rome, eight columns of the pronaos (porch), still dominate the west end of the Forum at the foot of the Clivus Capitolinus. The temple goes back to the earliest records of the republic (6th century BCE). It was restored by Lucius Munatius Plancus in 42 BCE and, after a fire, in the 4th century CE. It served as the treasury (aerarium Saturni) of the Roman state. Saturn’s cult partner was the obscure goddess Lua, whose name is connected with lues (plague or destruction), but he was also associated with Ops, another obscure goddess (perhaps the goddess of abundance), the cult partner of Consus, probably a god of grain storage.

In Roman myth Saturn was identified with the Greek Cronus. Exiled from Olympus by Zeus, he ruled Latium in a happy and innocent golden age, where he taught his people agriculture and other peaceful arts. In myth he was the father of Picus.

Saturn’s great festival, the Saturnalia, became the most popular of Roman festivals, and its influence is still felt in the celebration of Christmas and the Western world’s New Year. The Saturnalia was originally celebrated on December 17, but it was later extended to seven days. It was the merriest festival of the year: all work and business were suspended; slaves were given temporary freedom to say and do what they liked; certain moral restrictions were eased; and presents were freely exchanged. The weekday Saturday (Latin Saturni dies) was named for Saturn.
Well it wasn't me personally. Nothing about the myths of Saturn remind me of Santa Claus. He is often pictured eating babies.

But Saturn worship, like Sun worship seems to be a very old thing...
Originally Posted By TomPaine⏩
Jordan Maxwell did some real good Saturn videos back in the day.


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See above.

Perhaps one was grafted on to the other. There are a lot of examples of the Judeo-Christian religions co-opting pagan traditions. Like the link above that says "keeping the Sabbath [Saturday]" is a continuation of the worship of Saturn.
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
Pleasure. I’m reading through it ALL. The topic IS relevant to my interest. I am Just skimmed this one at first due to busy Sunday household cleaning. I am gleefully Using my swiffer mop, my swifter duster, some paper towels/spray bottles, and various household cleaning products. Oh and my favorite appliance, which I use every day of my life.. my SHARK vacuum!!!!!! Every time I use it I think of you because it got your seal of approval. I love these vacuums! The brand is full of WIN. Like YoU. I have more I’d like to read and to add. This is going to be great! I can’t wait wooo!

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Sly reference to my laundry room pics?
Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
You do realize the tarot that a lot of this made up mysticism comes from was just an ancient every day card game?

All of the occult mumbo jumbo sprang from 18th century and on conspiracy theorists trying to sell books.
No, never knew of tarot as an everyday card game, only as a divination tool. Not that strange an idea given the 4 suits w/knights, queens, and kings + the non-suit cards which I guess could serve sort of like Jokers.
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The whole Saturn movement is a push to get you focused on the Creation and Satan/Saturn, rather than the Creator. The Zodiac did originate from the Judeo-Christian religion. Virgo-Virgin Birth of Christ, Leo-The lion of Judah (Christ), I looked into this Saturn stuff awhile ago, and though there are some nuggets of truth, that's what the enemy does, presents a bit of truth to take you down a path of destruction...when you research deep enough, you'll see how Satanic it all is.
No idea that it was a "movement". Thought this specific video does hold the position that Satan wants to make humans fall in love with the creation and gives specific instances of deceit. Using a little truth to sell a big lie is an old tactic.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
You do realize the tarot that a lot of this made up mysticism comes from was just an ancient every day card game?

All of the occult mumbo jumbo sprang from 18th century and on conspiracy theorists trying to sell books.
I thought tarot was invited by jews during time of persecution to hide their beliefs.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Well it wasn't me personally. Nothing about the myths of Saturn remind me of Santa Claus. He is often pictured eating babies.

But Saturn worship, like Sun worship seems to be a very old thing...





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See above.

Perhaps one was grafted on to the other. There are a lot of examples of the Judeo-Christian religions co-opting pagan traditions. Like the link above that says "keeping the Sabbath [Saturday]" is a continuation of the worship of Saturn.
Regarding Satan as Saturn even though it's "pre-Christian" It's known as "perennial philosophy" or perennialism. It's practiced in various "secret" societies like Freemasons. The idea being that all religions share common truths and also that different Gods are known by different names in different religions. Aldous Huxley was a modern proponent of it

And yeah Kronos is nothing like Santa Claus. Also Christians have the view that all religious worship pre-Christianity was worshiping Satan or demons in some way. Personally I view Christianity in its original form of Crusade and worldwide conquest as the original NWO, with elite bankers like the Medicis being Pope multiple times from the one family. It was the previous "reset" where all native culture, religion, tradition and knowledge was banned and outlawed in all converted nations imo.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Well it wasn't me personally. Nothing about the myths of Saturn remind me of Santa Claus. He is often pictured eating babies.

But Saturn worship, like Sun worship seems to be a very old thing...





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Perhaps one was grafted on to the other. There are a lot of examples of the Judeo-Christian religions co-opting pagan traditions. Like the link above that says "keeping the Sabbath [Saturday]" is a continuation of the worship of Saturn.
No, the German tribes that conquered Rome just didn't have a deity that aligned well with Saturn so they kept that name. The others were replaced with Norse gods. Tyrs day, Wodens day, Thors day, Friggs day. Sun day and Moon day were kept as well.

There is nothing occult about it, they just named days after their version of marvel superheroes.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
I thought tarot was invited by jews during time of persecution to hide their beliefs.
I don't think anyone knows for sure, but I think it's believed to come from/has been traced back to middle ages Italy. Whether or not that's where it actually originated or not, I don't think anyone really knows.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
- the XX also is found in the Seal of Saturn




- now see the pillars shown on either side of the square and compass in Masonry




- this represents IXXI, which in Roman numerals is two numbers- IX for 9 and XI for 11



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No that is incorrect lol. That's not what that stands for but damn you all are reaching on this **** lmao

There are tons of pillar like with random masonic symbols. It's not what that even looks like in a real lodge lol.
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro⏩
32nd degree Freemason checking and proud.


No that is incorrect lol. That's not what that stands for but damn you all are reaching on this **** lmao

There are tons of pillar like with random masonic symbols. It's not what that even looks like in a real lodge lol.
Why do Masons wear Aprons? Lets see if you answer, or if you know
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro⏩
32nd degree Freemason checking and proud.


No that is incorrect lol. That's not what that stands for but damn you all are reaching on this **** lmao

There are tons of pillar like with random masonic symbols. It's not what that even looks like in a real lodge lol.
Feel free to spill the tea ITT.

I just relayed what was in the video. My brother thought it was freaky and would be interesting to watch.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
I don't think anyone knows for sure, but I think it's believed to come from/has been traced back to middle ages Italy. Whether or not that's where it actually originated or not, I don't think anyone really knows.
Tarot as a card game dates to the 1400s. Charlatans didn't start using it for "divination" until the late 1700s.

Saturnalia, Saturn’s holiday was co-oped into Christmas by the Catholic church has a lot of pagan rituals that followed ancient Roman and German/Norse traditions.

It was always about Saturn being the harvest God and late December being the midpoint between last years harvest and next year's planting. Ancient agriculture wasn't perfect so people led a life of feast or famine. This was probably the last celebration they could afford before the worst part of winter set upon them.

And yes I'm sure children were eaten during years of famine. It happens to this day when people are starving to death like with the Donner party. Kids being small, with less energy reserves are going to die first. So Saturn being the god of feast or famine probably did have some association with eating children. Out of necessity.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Feel free to spill the tea ITT.

I just relayed what was in the video. My brother thought it was freaky and would be interesting to watch.
Well what do you want to know so I can debunk most of it? I was appointed officer for a year so I can answer most questions lol.

Don't expect the freemasons to take over everything. Yeah they're a group that help each other out but they're just old men getting out of the house on the week day.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
this idiot here didn't even know who albert pike was when I asked him about freemasonry a year ago and now he is going to debunk things here lmao.
lmao
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
this idiot here didn't even know who albert pike was when I asked him about freemasonry 2 years ago and now he is going to debunk things here lmao.
I wasn’t done all the way bud. Well aware of Albert pike and his theories now.
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro⏩
I wasn’t done all the way bud. Well aware of Albert pike and his theories now.
his theories?? 100% sure you don't understand the occult stuff he was talking about.
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro⏩
I wasn’t done all the way bud. Well aware of Albert pike and his theories now.
What do you think about British Intelligence and Queen Elizabeth using Freemasonry as a worldwide spy ring for intelligence gathering, using Mi6 agents like Aleister Crowley?
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Occult stuff is 100 percent just a way for people to grift money from stupid people.

(Just like actual religions)

It's all fake and gay.
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
his theories?? 100% sure you don't understand the occult stuff he was talking about.
Oh no I do. Guy was a bit of a loon. Not everyone follows pike. Its what you make of it yourself. I can also guarantee what ever stuff you’ve read or researched is probably incorrect because their are a lot of bullchit books out there and dumb chit on line.

If you’re so inclined why don’t you just go to your nearest lodge to find out what’s right and wrong
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Bro most Freemasons are just a fraternal club where they go there to drink and socialize and act out some Pythagoras role play.

Some are also history nerds and feel like they’re reliving a part of history.
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Originally Posted By Kay4Kool⏩
Bro most Freemasons are just a fraternal club where they go there to drink and socialize and act out some Pythagoras role play.

Some are also history nerds and feel like they’re reliving a part of history.
Yep at least this guy gets it
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro⏩
Oh no I do. Guy was a bit of a loon. Not everyone follows pike. Its what you make of it yourself. I can also guarantee what ever stuff you’ve read or researched is probably incorrect because their are a lot of bullchit books out there and dumb chit on line.

If you’re so inclined why don’t you just go to your nearest lodge to find out what’s right and wrong
Friend of mine did it for a while. He quit because they always kept asking him to organize stuff and it was just becoming an unpaid part time job.
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Originally Posted By jiujitsubro⏩
Well what do you want to know so I can debunk most of it? I was appointed officer for a year so I can answer most questions lol.

Don't expect the freemasons to take over everything. Yeah they're a group that help each other out but they're just old men getting out of the house on the week day.
33rd degree = the Enlightened
Originally Posted By Kay4Kool⏩
Bro most Freemasons are just a fraternal club where they go there to drink and socialize and act out some Pythagoras role play.

Some are also history nerds and feel like they’re reliving a part of history.
One of my great grandfathers from Switzerland was a Free Mason. I have his old membership card.

OTOH I knew a woman some time back [20 years?] who claimed that her father was 33rd degree and some kind of grand poobah of Free Masonry. Said they were into dark evil scary stuff.

Not saying I know a damn thing, just saying that most of the people might just be there as part of a civic organization.
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Originally Posted By Kay4Kool⏩
Bro most Freemasons are just a fraternal club where they go there to drink and socialize and act out some Pythagoras role play.

Some are also history nerds and feel like they’re reliving a part of history.
Some are shape shifting reptilians engaged in nefarious deeds and the dark arts.
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Significance of big black mainframe computer?








































































ConCERNing.
B'nai B'rith origins:
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CIA of Switzerland origins:
https://www.sites.google.com/site/gr...ligence-agency






Greenland = Rome 2.0
The Largest FUTURISTIC cities in the world with 8-10 foot Nephilim/Human Crossbreeds.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
Occult stuff is 100 percent just a way for people to grift money from stupid people.

(Just like actual religions)

It's all fake and gay.
Well I did give $3 to a palm reader at a cool carnival/art exhibition once. She told me I was strong.

Spoiler!
I was working out regularly at the time and *might* have had some visible muscle.




They got me. lol

It was neat though. I think I remember the fire jets the most. And there was definitely one of those swing the hammer/ring the bell jobbies.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
Occult stuff is 100 percent just a way for people to grift money from stupid people.

(Just like actual religions)

It's all fake and gay.
WRONG.
Alchemy is REAL.
Jewish Female Witches run the world.
























https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/a...cy-theory.html





















South Korea was run by WITCHES.
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