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09-16-2022, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
i'm not sure if you're arguing that the vaccines are safe and effective and are saying that the 40% increase in all cause mortality is due to covid.And you don't think that the mandates and how we handled COVID might have contributed to increased deaths, rather than COVID itself which has been shown to be barely lethal to anyone who is in good health and under 70? IE stuffing nursing homes full of sick old people and forcing them to stay in close quarters, or stopping people from being able to do anything resulting in an increase in drug/alcohol abuse, depression, etc?
and I'm the retarded one...
Interesting how the uptick in deaths started right when lockdowns began, rather than back in November when COVID first became a thing...must have been because COVID is so dangerous
and I'm the retarded one...
Interesting how the uptick in deaths started right when lockdowns began, rather than back in November when COVID first became a thing...must have been because COVID is so dangerous
if you are:
97% of the covid deaths are attributed to old people with 1 or more comorbidities. this is straight from the italian government.
the 40% increase in all cause mortality is in people from ages 18 - 64.
the data confirms, they did not die from covid. the important distinction is, they didn't die WITH covid either. if someone died WITH covid, they were still marked as a covid death.
since that is the case, it is impossible for the 40% increase in mortality to be from covid.
this 40% increase is also considered a one in 200 year event. so was it the vaccines, or did 40% more people start dying because of lockdown related things?
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Originally Posted By heiltrump2024⏩
We're on the same page budi'm not sure if you're arguing that the vaccines are safe and effective and are saying that the 40% increase in all cause mortality is due to covid.
if you are:
97% of the covid deaths are attributed to old people with 1 or more comorbidities. this is straight from the italian government.
the 40% increase in all cause mortality is in people from ages 18 - 64.
the data confirms, they did not die from covid. the important distinction is, they didn't die WITH covid either. if someone died WITH covid, they were still marked as a covid death.
since that is the case, it is impossible for the 40% increase in mortality to be from covid.
this 40% increase is also considered a one in 200 year event. so was it the vaccines, or did 40% more people start dying because of lockdown related things?
if you are:
97% of the covid deaths are attributed to old people with 1 or more comorbidities. this is straight from the italian government.
the 40% increase in all cause mortality is in people from ages 18 - 64.
the data confirms, they did not die from covid. the important distinction is, they didn't die WITH covid either. if someone died WITH covid, they were still marked as a covid death.
since that is the case, it is impossible for the 40% increase in mortality to be from covid.
this 40% increase is also considered a one in 200 year event. so was it the vaccines, or did 40% more people start dying because of lockdown related things?
Your last sentence is what I'm arguing.
The 40% increase couldn't have been the vaccines because the vaccines weren't introduced until November. I'm of the opinion it's due to lockdowns and the effects of such, rather than COVID itself like the other guy said. The increase didn't happen until lockdowns began in March, whereas COVID was first introduced in November the year prior. We just didn't care because it was isolated to China.
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