theres already been obvious issues with the timeline but everything else fits perfectly with the lore and history that it is OBVIOUSLY gandalf not to mention the obvious interest it creates in the show.

This show is about the convergence of the end of the second age and the beginning of the third. The history of the Istari is only that they came about sometime around the time "the necromancer" who is also obviously Adar, and why there is a transitional period of him going from Adar, the first orc to "the necromancer" to eventually Sauron.

Its all being tied together very obvious to anyone who has read the books and has half a brain.

But it is Gandalf because the writers are absolute garbage and have zero respect for the source material. Only pushing dumb **** like yass dwarf queens without beards.

Interesting that you the the subject matter of the show is mostly about its connection to battles that happened in english history. I mean i dont disagree there but its such a minor aspect of what makes the show the show and has nothing to do with the character storylines and the drama in the show which is the subject matter i was discussing, aka the wokeism.

but go right ahead and continue giving a history lesson on the battles of game of thrones and their connection to the battles of english history because thats ABSOLUTELY what i was talking about, if the battles in house of dragons were connected to english history.

but this still isnt wokeism

in fact, i would argue making dwarven females have beards would be correct to the lore of dwarves but more Woke than fully shaven feminine looking female dwarves


so points to them for that one actually

The show is literally just a civil war between two families both led by a couple of sloots who hate each other. They destroy the country until one kills the other. That’s it, that’s the story. This isn’t a narrative about female empowerment, believe all women and weak ineffectual men, you idiot, lmfao that’s literally ROP and lmfaoo at saying it’s 95% unwoke.

Just look at the Numenoreans. In the book, they’re supermen chads who stand 7ft tall and live up to 300 years old. They’re way stronger than dainty little Elves like Galadriel and single-handedly wipe out Sauron’s forces after he almost genocides her and her ppl. Sauron had to resort to manipulation to destroy Numenor from within, using Pharazon’s fear of death and wish for immortality.

But in the show, they’re just regular racist maga hat wearing nationalists who hate Elves because “they gonna take our jobs!” Instead of them being jealous of their godlike status. This show is also written by Jews, too. And low test man-hating men and a grandson who wants to step out of his grandfather’s shadow and make LOTR his own.

The problem with this show is in its execution. Doesn’t matter if we get to see all the things that sound good on paper if the way it’s shown is hamfisted garbage

i enjoy it
i dont care if things are played out exactly as they were in the books i care about the effort put into it and if it keeps a good storyline, which I feel is being fulfilled with this show. I dont think its being rushed, under funded, poorly acted, pushing any agendas, the main focus seesm VERY MUCH on the storyline of middle earth, lots of character development, lots of action, lots of drama. Dont really see the issue people have with it other than being upset the timelines/stories dont match with the silmerillion.

Who is sauron? Srs

ROP >>>> House of Dragons

Nerd

They have more respect for it than you think. Wait and see.

the villain of LotR and Rings of Power

hes a Valar which are highly powerful beings above humanoids(dwarves, elves, humans, hobbits) think Wizards but immortal and unique powers/devoted to an archtype god

valar are servants of the Maiar, simply put the Maiar are like the Greek Gods, small in number, immense in power, ruling beings of the worlds.

Sauron was the more powerful Valar serving the "dark" Maiar named Morgoth who was the villain of the 1st age of middle earth(begginning times of lord of the rings world)

Forgive English I am Russia. Sauron is not a Valar. He is a Maiar. Serve Putin. You have Maiar and Valar backwards. Serve Putin.

They're not hobbits, they're called Harfoot, they're like a distant relative to Hobbits.

The show is fine, Amazon doesn't have the full rights to the Silmarillion so they're kinda adding their own spin onto events here and there (creating their own characters/etc).

The show is clearly for people that never read the books and only watched the movies once or twice. Its not for hardcore LotR aficionados that watch the trilogy every year and have read the books extensively. Those are the only people nit picking about every little thing. I've been watching weekly and I understand its not going to be perfect. Im watching it because its an interesting fantasy series.

With that said, the memes are hilarious;

It is consistent with the books though. The changes can still be explained. You have to keep an open mind.

Always thought this story was lame tbh. It’s just fantasy so who really cares? I actually don’t mind fantasy except for the ones that nerds take too seriously. It is what it is. Nothing important.

LAWD DEM RANGS DOE

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees these things. I try not to just label people automatically stupid but when people talk like that I really have to wonder how many are really just brain dead. And it does explain how woke and libtard chit has spread so far.

Strong 10% brain degradation from all that juice. Valar are the strongest by far. Morgoth = Valar. Sauron, Gandalf etc were lesser beings called Maiar. You mixed them up.

He just got the words mixed up is all.

According to thus far accurate leaks of the entire show :

Spoiler!

Only reason to think he is Sauron is his conversation with Galadriel about feeling attached to battle or some chit. Like his spirit could be free or whatever. I'm like 90% sure Sauron is actually the dude who fell from the sky. And those following him are trying to find him and help him remember who he is. Haven't seen the latest episode yet tho.

you should be embarassed that you are watching that trash.

But during the second age, Sauron was already Sauron, but went byAnnatar& tried to con Gil-Galad, but failed, then conned Celebrimbor into making the rings with him... THEN he became "the necromancer" to eventually reveal himself as Sauron.

STRONG English learning "comrade"

Michael bay was ahead of his time

IQs are dropping

There either needs to be no storyline or have it spelled out plainly. Explosions, lots of explosions or magic

If you want a story watch European cinema

Doesn't need to, not even in the same time period
Also not in middle earth the whole timeNot sure if srs3 types of hobbits,
harfoots are the one in the show
Smeagol is the 2nd type of hobbit
Frodo n friends are the 3rd type of hobbitNot made upApparently they do have beards in the show they're just subtle and you can't actually see it without a a microscope

Nobody cares except for irrelevant ****s from these 2 categories

1) total nerds

2) contrarian dumbasses who want to find reasons to be mad

Amazon spent like a billion dollars on the show. That means it needs to appeal to a mass market audience to produce a return on investment.
Which means tolkien nerds are irrelevant... and the contrarian dumbasses are cucking themselves by being polarizing and generating more attention for the show

So...

Shut up nerds. You don't matter
And contrarian dumbasses, definitely don't keep talking about how woke the show is... oh nooo, you better stop...

Peter Jackson tried making a trilogy that appealed to Tolkien fans but instead made movies that will live on forever. Amazon tried making a show that appeals to everyone, but instead made a show that appeals to no one except a minority who will forget about this show by the end of next month.

BRB hype for this show dead asfuk. Viewership down, ratings abysmal, actors/writers/directors/fans of the show lashing out at “nerds” all salty af, articles written to blame the show’s failures on white supremacy, etc. This series will bankrupt Amazon studios unless they line up their showrunners for summary execution and beg for some competency in the writer’s room.

And idc that Tolkien created the word “harfoot” they’re nothing like the disgusting, dirty little bastards in RoP.

Oh lawd...watching episode 8 and just saw Halbrand suggest using an alloy of mithril...and he called it a gift.

Annatar = bringer of gifts in Quenya = SAURON!!!

HALBRAND CONFIRMED AS SAURON

The first season isn't even over yet... it's a little early to compare the show to 3 movies released over 2 years.

Viewership decreased because 1) viewership for any show will virtually never stay as high as it was at the premier, and 2) viewership has only been published for the first ~3 episodes...

And it's still the 2nd most watched show in the world after Cobra Kai (which is on Netflix... the service way more people use).

More importantly, the slow started just like Fellowship of the Ring... slow as ****. It's only getting interesting in the 2nd half of the season. The creators admitted that, and it's my personal opinion based on 1 rewatch. I skipped like the first 4 completely on the 2nd watch.

Polarizing articles will just get more attention on the show which helps viewership.

And if the finale isn't ****, we can expect the show to get a ton of word of mouth in the next few days... so the only show in the world it will continue to lose to in viewership is Cobra Kai. Which is also good as **** - and appeals to a much wider audience than a fantasy series ever will.

In conclusion, wait and see. The finale is gonna be hype AF.

[QUOTE=TooAnabolic post_id=1669448083]
Amazon spent like a billion dollars on the show. [/b]That means it needs to appeal to a mass market audience to produce a return on investment.
Which means tolkien nerds are irrelevant... and the contrarian dumbasses are cucking themselves by being polarizing and generating more attention for the show[/b]
[/QUOTE]Except trying to cater to everyone almost always makes the product worse. The LotR movies did not cater to the diversity crowd by adding token colored people to angelo mythic races and it didn't have to add a bunch of women empowerment to become the blockbuster movies they were. Very few women care about fantasy shows/movies, seems like a dumb idea to try to cater to them when they aren't the main audience.


[QUOTE=Jestbrah post_id=1669437113]the whole show is about empowering women and piidophilia and degeneracy in the libcuck society, even the politics in the show mirror liberal politics to a "t"

i mean really is it that difficult for you to see it?[/QUOTE]RoP has a ton of women empowerment... Galadriel is pretty much the biggest main character and she is made out to be the strongest warrior alive.
The main hobbit is also now a female with Nori being the courageous small folk character.
Miriel another female and ruler of Numenor, she gets way more screen time than say Gil-galad.
Bronwyn isn't from any of Tolken's writing, but of course need a peasant woman who just has more courage than any of her fellow male villagers, and she's actually the one that rally's the troops and is also the best fighter among them all.
And then Durin is made out to be such a pu**ified whipped dwarf with this beardless black dwarf woman wearing the pants and he's just a poor sap that needs her counseling as he cries about fathers approval.

I wanted to like it, but it is 100% woke, and the acting in parts isn't that great, the story telling isn't that great. It's like movies that you would say the quality is such they would go straight to video and not theaters. Except this is a TV series so i don't know an equivalent phrase, but it's just like an average show that could have and should have been better for the budget that was spent on it.