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Did you schedule your Bruce surgery yet op?
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is it contagious?
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Originally Posted By litljay⏩
well myself and other coaches I know and am close with on an intellectual level(as in sharing information with each other) have seen countless people on all sorts of hormone rangesThere is still a lot of unknowns in the world of hormones. The general thought process is that if they can keep you in the normal range, very little side effects or other problems are likely to arise. Once you surpass the normal range, the likelihood of side effects increases dramatically (acne, aggression, hair loss, etc.). Also, most doctors I've spoken to suggest that going past normal range increases the risk of other catastrophic ailments. There is some research (shaky research) that suggests it will increase the risk of prostate cancer.
so my evidence based response is that levels of 300 is more than enough to still make progress beyond a 210 bench for a healthy male. There are VERY likely other reasons that bench is not going up before turning to "well my test is just too low to make gains now no WONDER"
I have also seen TONS of bloodwork with people at this level and know TONS of males taking 200-300mg weekly for a decade or more and they are fine with no cardiovascular issues, no organ issues, no bloodwork issues. There is definitively no negative effects they are facing from it.
over reliance of only doctors and studies for information is not wise
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11-15-2022, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted By litljay⏩
Yeah wells there’s plenty of solid research letting your girlfriends boyfriend peg you in the ass causes prostate cancer but I don’t see you shying away from thatThere is still a lot of unknowns in the world of hormones. The general thought process is that if they can keep you in the normal range, very little side effects or other problems are likely to arise. Once you surpass the normal range, the likelihood of side effects increases dramatically (acne, aggression, hair loss, etc.). Also, most doctors I've spoken to suggest that going past normal range increases the risk of other catastrophic ailments. There is some research (shaky research) that suggests it will increase the risk of prostate cancer.
11-15-2022, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Lucas5814⏩
That’s a good dose. I’m at biweekly at same and I was lower. I think I’m in the 600-700s now. I was in my mid 30s when I started. Just woke up one day tired as fuk, couldn’t get out of bed to do anything. Got tested and it was double digits.Dr I got bloodwork from said he's put me on 200mg a week to get me up to 1100
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Originally Posted By i3oosted⏩
Damn bruh.That’s a good dose. I’m at biweekly at same and I was lower. I think I’m in the 600-700s now. I was in my mid 30s when I started. Just woke up one day tired as fuk, couldn’t get out of bed to do anything. Got tested and it was double digits.
11-15-2022, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By i3oosted⏩
What are the benefits you have noticed since taking test?That’s a good dose. I’m at biweekly at same and I was lower. I think I’m in the 600-700s now. I was in my mid 30s when I started. Just woke up one day tired as fuk, couldn’t get out of bed to do anything. Got tested and it was double digits.
11-15-2022, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Lucas5814⏩
My quality of sleep skyrocketed. No more old man 2AM pee breaks. Sex drive went through the roof.What are the benefits you have noticed since taking test?
11-15-2022, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Lucas5814⏩
200 mg a week is too much. I would start with 120mg a week and go from there. 200 mg is A LOT of test trust me ive been on TRT for like 9 years so far.Dr I got bloodwork from said he's put me on 200mg a week to get me up to 1100
11-15-2022, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Lucas5814⏩
A lot more energy, sex drive up. They say it takes a few weeks to start feeling it, I felt it in a couple days. It will drop your sperm count if you are planning a family. I stopped and 2 months later I was able get my girl pregnant and went back on it.What are the benefits you have noticed since taking test?
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11-15-2022, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
poor sleephow does double digits test even happen srs? is that from a brain injury or something?
@Jesbtrah / other scientists explain
@Jesbtrah / other scientists explain
put in an environment that caters to estrogen dominance/low need for testosterone(see prison studies and how prisoners have high test)
bad nutrition
high stress
pornography
those are going to be the leading causes
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Originally Posted By i3oosted⏩
You could have probably just hopped on HCG and continued your test. I take HCG twice a week with my 100mg/test twice a week and haven't had any atrophy of my balls and my loads are huge. If I don't bust at least once a day, my balls will hurt from ejaculating so hard. I had my sperm count checked and it was in the normal range. (Ded fkn Srs)A lot more energy, sex drive up. They say it takes a few weeks to start feeling it, I felt it in a couple days. It will drop your sperm count if you are planning a family. I stopped and 2 months later I was able get my girl pregnant and went back on it.
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Originally Posted By shmobin⏩
Sure, blame the food supply......Thanks a lot food supply.
And not the lifestyle one lives to reach thst low of a level.
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Originally Posted By ralphlaurenbrah⏩
You've been on it since you were 22 years old????200 mg a week is too much. I would start with 120mg a week and go from there. 200 mg is A LOT of test trust me ive been on TRT for like 9 years so far.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
It doesn't matter if his body 'stops producing naturally'. His body is barely producing as is. If I didn't get the negative sides I'd be blasting at 1500 ng/dl for life. When I got on TRT I was at 420ng/dl. Mainly because of severe sleep Apnea. Only sleep about 5-6h a night and never reach deep sleep. First started TRT and I stayed in the 1500 range. Life literally on godmode. Dialed it back to a moderate 1000Ng/DL now and its still amazing.I think you're borderline. I think you could do other things to raise test naturally first. At your age, you are making a 40-50 year commitment to taking test and your body is going to stop producing it if you are supplementing.
check out this clip, dude describes it real well the trt issue.
check out this clip, dude describes it real well the trt issue.
I think if I'd get my sleep issues sorted I could probable cycle off TRT and get my natural production back up. (It can be done). I most likely will try at some point just to see if I can get my 'natural' levels in a respectable range (700-800 ng/dl).
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200mg a week is where most hormone doctors that know what the fook they are doing start their patients. Then adjust from there. If your at 800 total test at 200 most doctors will stop you there. If you’re over 1200 total they will lower the dosage.
Everyone’s body is different.
Everyone’s body is different.
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Bro before you hop on change your lifestyle and optimize that to see where you can get it. Trt is for life. You want to do that every week the rest of your life?
How are men these days so low? Stop fapping, fix your stress, get good sleep, get your diet in check, and exercise consistently. Put yourself in an environment that demands discomfort.
Is that why you got a blood test? Either way I am high test master race. Insane morning wood every morning, wake up feeling like I should be going to battle instead of fooking work like a slave, always hungry, beard is uncontrollable at this point. I couldn't imagine ever taking a bike ride/juicing. I'd probably think I was a God.
How are men these days so low? Stop fapping, fix your stress, get good sleep, get your diet in check, and exercise consistently. Put yourself in an environment that demands discomfort.
Is that why you got a blood test? Either way I am high test master race. Insane morning wood every morning, wake up feeling like I should be going to battle instead of fooking work like a slave, always hungry, beard is uncontrollable at this point. I couldn't imagine ever taking a bike ride/juicing. I'd probably think I was a God.
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Fuarrkk man, I thought mine were normal. Apparently this is low? Free T same, 7.8 pg/ml, T 14.59nmol/L (417ng/dl conversion).
I'm depressed(not really sad, I just feel like everyday is the same, I dont have a purpose, I'm not going anywhere). Barely any morning wood in the past years. Had no sex in like 5 years cuz pretty much no interest in fking(and no, not attracted to dudes lewl). Not fat, not swole either(anymore, used to in Highschool, avi).
Did 2 cycles of vitamin T at 18&19, never really felt the same ever since. I was natty in avi tho, I was about 17 then. 25 nowdays.
I'm depressed(not really sad, I just feel like everyday is the same, I dont have a purpose, I'm not going anywhere). Barely any morning wood in the past years. Had no sex in like 5 years cuz pretty much no interest in fking(and no, not attracted to dudes lewl). Not fat, not swole either(anymore, used to in Highschool, avi).
Did 2 cycles of vitamin T at 18&19, never really felt the same ever since. I was natty in avi tho, I was about 17 then. 25 nowdays.
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Males need test to function you might have found the source of all your issues srs
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Originally Posted By Ramoneb87⏩
Endocrinologists probably won't but trt clinics willThe worst part is most doctors won't subscribe TRT unless you are below 300
11-15-2022, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Lucas5814⏩
How much per month?hell yeah
I'm gonna start in January.
I'm gonna start in January.
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Originally Posted By CelkyN6⏩
Wait what? I have heard that onions are actually good for testosterone.Start water-filtering if you're not already, imo that's like at least 50% of the problem
Edit: Also avoid plastics, avoid eating onions/soy/plant-protein, eat plenty of red meat, etc. Basically just websearch how to avoid estrogen and increase testosterone from some non-cucked source and do that.
Edit: Also avoid plastics, avoid eating onions/soy/plant-protein, eat plenty of red meat, etc. Basically just websearch how to avoid estrogen and increase testosterone from some non-cucked source and do that.
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Gonna transition back to being a man, nice op
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11-15-2022, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted By omnip0tent⏩
Same, I got total test 678 ng/dL, and I haven't been in gym for 3 years now. I should start training soon for them gainz. Wonder would it be a bit higher then? Age: 31.Got mine tested recently just for ****s and giggles.
Total test: 575 ng/dL
Free: 105.2 pg/mL
Total test: 575 ng/dL
Free: 105.2 pg/mL
Has anyone tried nofap day 7 and then went to blood test? I've heard from a study that testosterone peaks at the 7th day.
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Originally Posted By Mic9⏩
They are. I'll bet $10 that poster was tripped up by the 4chan filter that changes "soy" to onion lol.Wait what? I have heard that onions are actually good for testosterone.
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