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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
EMF =/= Devil or 'God'...Well if it's only in your head, but because we are all one consciousness connected at various levels, we are all able to access the devil, or the god... depends on what you want.
You might think I sound crazy, but there was some CIAA documents leaked about this and how the heart releases an EMF.
You might think I sound crazy, but there was some CIAA documents leaked about this and how the heart releases an EMF.
We're getting to the point now where the definition of "God" of his/her antithesis is so personal/arbitrary that it loses meaning altogether.
If by 'God' we simply mean a universal force we cannot see or yet comprehend... then fine... but most of the time people mean a mono-theistic being who created humans in their 'image' (whatever that means).
I am more open to the former, but only a possibility, not a certainty or strong likelihood.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Yes. Super interesting.Are you reffering to my post?
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Let’s look at back at the garden of Eden. Adam and Eve only had it pure thoughts. Our thoughts are what God originally gave us, and how we should behave. When Adam and Eve ate the apple, “their eyes were opened”. Now they had bad and evil thoughts. Now they had thoughts of temptation.
In my interpretation, a “deal with the devil”, is the negotiation that you have within your head between your good and evil thoughts. This is where the angel and demon on the shoulders of a man having a conversation. The deal is based on the temptation, and the thought that you will be greatly rewarded taking a not so good path. The part that sell your soul, is that you now have a guilty conscience for the rest of your life, and that you will eventually suffer in other ways in the physical world, like losing everything (family, money, freedom…). This is the “freedom” that Christians refer to with having responsibility. The more responsibility you take on, and the more you do good, the more meaningful life becomes.
In my interpretation, a “deal with the devil”, is the negotiation that you have within your head between your good and evil thoughts. This is where the angel and demon on the shoulders of a man having a conversation. The deal is based on the temptation, and the thought that you will be greatly rewarded taking a not so good path. The part that sell your soul, is that you now have a guilty conscience for the rest of your life, and that you will eventually suffer in other ways in the physical world, like losing everything (family, money, freedom…). This is the “freedom” that Christians refer to with having responsibility. The more responsibility you take on, and the more you do good, the more meaningful life becomes.
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Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
Riiiiight... so... it's because you're enlightened and i'm not... sure. Or, maybe you licked a frog and have a persistent mental trip going; how can we be sure?it's not really a riddle, you are just not attuned to be able to grasp what I am trying to say.
you come across as someone who is severely lacking in the spiritual aspects of life. i reckon you would say spirituality doesn't exist either, but that is also not true.
liken to a dull gray color, as opposed to something that is vibrant, even black or brown can be a vibrant color if the energy is there to accompany it.
Or a low vibrational energy being. How could a low energy being even conceptualize that which is of a higher frequency than it? It would prefer to build walls to encapsulate itself so that it feels the safety and security - when in reality those walls are a stronghold of the mind
you come across as someone who is severely lacking in the spiritual aspects of life. i reckon you would say spirituality doesn't exist either, but that is also not true.
liken to a dull gray color, as opposed to something that is vibrant, even black or brown can be a vibrant color if the energy is there to accompany it.
Or a low vibrational energy being. How could a low energy being even conceptualize that which is of a higher frequency than it? It would prefer to build walls to encapsulate itself so that it feels the safety and security - when in reality those walls are a stronghold of the mind
I'm not lacking in this spiritual concept at all, I just scoff when people speak in absolutes and certainties with such fervor when it comes to ideas that are unproveable and immediately resort to insults to try and defend themselves. It's a weak position...
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Ah yes... that's a fun story. Frodo and Sam are actually my personal favorite fantasy novel characters but Adam and Eve are cool too.Let’s look at back at the garden of Eden. Adam and Eve only had it pure thoughts. Our thoughts are what God originally gave us, and how we should behave. When Adam and Eve ate the apple, “their eyes were opened”. Now they had bad and evil thoughts. Now they had thoughts of temptation.
In my interpretation, a “deal with the devil”, is the negotiation that you have within your head between your good and evil thoughts. This is where the metaphorical angel and demon on the shoulders of a man having a conversation. The deal is based on the temptation, and the thought that you will be greatly rewarded taking a not so good path. The part that sell your soul, is that you now have a guilty conscience for the rest of your life, and that you will eventually suffer in other ways in the physical world, like losing everything (family, money, freedom…). This is the “freedom” that Christians refer to with having responsibility. The more responsibility you take on, and the more you do good, the more meaningful life becomes.
In my interpretation, a “deal with the devil”, is the negotiation that you have within your head between your good and evil thoughts. This is where the metaphorical angel and demon on the shoulders of a man having a conversation. The deal is based on the temptation, and the thought that you will be greatly rewarded taking a not so good path. The part that sell your soul, is that you now have a guilty conscience for the rest of your life, and that you will eventually suffer in other ways in the physical world, like losing everything (family, money, freedom…). This is the “freedom” that Christians refer to with having responsibility. The more responsibility you take on, and the more you do good, the more meaningful life becomes.
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
no, my context of god can be any god where people are praying or meditating on a higher power of selflessness.EMF =/= Devil or 'God'...
We're getting to the point now where the definition of "God" of his/her antithesis is so personal/arbitrary that it loses meaning altogether.
If by 'God' we simply mean a universal force we cannot see or yet comprehend... then fine... but most of the time people mean a mono-theistic being who created humans in their 'image' (whatever that means).
I am more open to the former, but only a possibility, not a certainty or strong likelihood.
We're getting to the point now where the definition of "God" of his/her antithesis is so personal/arbitrary that it loses meaning altogether.
If by 'God' we simply mean a universal force we cannot see or yet comprehend... then fine... but most of the time people mean a mono-theistic being who created humans in their 'image' (whatever that means).
I am more open to the former, but only a possibility, not a certainty or strong likelihood.
Once you experience a certain dimension called love, you can understand god by having that love towards all life, since that will make you selfless, so you view all as equal. Who do you prefer a selfish or selfless person in your life?
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
In my experience there is only selfish or selfless thoughts - live your life for yourself or for all of life.Let’s look at back at the garden of Eden. Adam and Eve only had it pure thoughts. Our thoughts are what God originally gave us, and how we should behave. When Adam and Eve ate the apple, “their eyes were opened”. Now they had bad and evil thoughts. Now they had thoughts of temptation.
In my interpretation, a “deal with the devil”, is the negotiation that you have within your head between your good and evil thoughts. This is where the metaphorical angel and demon on the shoulders of a man having a conversation. The deal is based on the temptation, and the thought that you will be greatly rewarded taking a not so good path. The part that sell your soul, is that you now have a guilty conscience for the rest of your life, and that you will eventually suffer in other ways in the physical world, like losing everything (family, money, freedom…). This is the “freedom” that Christians refer to with having responsibility. At the more responsibility you take on, and the more you do good, the more meaningful life becomes.
In my interpretation, a “deal with the devil”, is the negotiation that you have within your head between your good and evil thoughts. This is where the metaphorical angel and demon on the shoulders of a man having a conversation. The deal is based on the temptation, and the thought that you will be greatly rewarded taking a not so good path. The part that sell your soul, is that you now have a guilty conscience for the rest of your life, and that you will eventually suffer in other ways in the physical world, like losing everything (family, money, freedom…). This is the “freedom” that Christians refer to with having responsibility. At the more responsibility you take on, and the more you do good, the more meaningful life becomes.
Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
What do you want to know? My knowledge and understanding is limited, but I will try my best. In essence it all has to do with a survival mechanism gone haywire.Yes. Super interesting.
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I'm talking legit deals with demons etc. Not weird jungian archetype metaphors.
I.e. a person wants their fashion brand to take off so they start praying to demons, doing rituals, attending Satan groups and a "deal" is made with a legit force/being.
Does this happen? Anyone actually do this or know someone that did?
I.e. a person wants their fashion brand to take off so they start praying to demons, doing rituals, attending Satan groups and a "deal" is made with a legit force/being.
Does this happen? Anyone actually do this or know someone that did?
11-27-2022, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted By AdamWW⏩
not that i am enlightened and your not, i mean we are all on this same journey in Life and some of us may be farther ahead of us by means of genetics and spiritual capacities. It is a blessing and a curse, depending on your mindset.Riiiiight... so... it's because you're enlightened and i'm not... sure. Or, maybe you licked a frog and have a persistent mental trip going; how can we be sure?
I'm not lacking in this spiritual concept at all, I just scoff when people speak in absolutes and certainties with such fervor when it comes to ideas that are unproveable and immediately resort to insults to try and defend themselves. It's a weak position...
Believe what you want, no harm done, but don't pretend it's a fact.
I'm not lacking in this spiritual concept at all, I just scoff when people speak in absolutes and certainties with such fervor when it comes to ideas that are unproveable and immediately resort to insults to try and defend themselves. It's a weak position...
Believe what you want, no harm done, but don't pretend it's a fact.
with that said, your thought processes stop at the 'synagogue of Satan' trope where you think no further than to question whether it to be an actual building as opposed to a metaphorical concept - some of us are thinking too literally into things that are not of the literal world, but of the spiritual world. If you can't read between the lines and garner even a rudimentary understanding, i'm not faulting ya for it, that's just genetic disposition i suppose.
for example, when i say open your mind i do not literally mean tear open your skull (which is where we might think our mind resides, in our brains) but rather to consider a new way of thinking, that there might be more to this world than meets the eye, to have curiosity in the unknown and to be humble enough to assert you (or I) may not know things that are of this world or beyond
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Adam and Eve were closer to perfection. Closer to god genes . The food, soil, and water were pure and perfect too. Do Adam and Eve could breed and their children with their siblings without coming out retards and all mutated and ****. By the time of Moses everything was corrupted genetics, soil and the foods water men consumed. That is why sex between close relatives only became outlawed then in Leviticus. By then tribes of men had multiplied enough.
Not the Adam itt. That one is a complete and utter jackass. I’m taking about the first man crested in gods perfect image . Closer to gods genes than men of today.
Not the Adam itt. That one is a complete and utter jackass. I’m taking about the first man crested in gods perfect image . Closer to gods genes than men of today.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Explain to me then how these documents (which hopefully you read before committing to them) result in a measurable connectedness?Well if it's only in your head, but because we are all one consciousness connected at various levels, we are all able to access the devil, or the god... depends on what you want.
You might think I sound crazy, but there was some CIA documents leaked about this, and how the heart releases an EMF and allows you to infer that we are all connected.
BTW I know this all to be true from personal experience, but you should not believe what I say, but use your mind and the other resources at your disposal to try and discover something new in your life, about life.
You might think I sound crazy, but there was some CIA documents leaked about this, and how the heart releases an EMF and allows you to infer that we are all connected.
BTW I know this all to be true from personal experience, but you should not believe what I say, but use your mind and the other resources at your disposal to try and discover something new in your life, about life.
I'm not sure how this infers anything... perhaps, for you, it intuits something, but infer? Not that I can see... this feels like a huge, HUGE leap of reason you have there.
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
Oh hey, it's the guy who ONLY eats meats and is in horrible health, then wonders why!Adam and Eve were closer to perfection. Closer to god genes . The food, soil, and water were perfect tok. Do Adam and Eve could breed and their children with their siblings without coming out retards and all mutated and ****. By the time of Moses everything was corrupted genetics, soil and the foods water er consumed. That is why sex between close relatives only became outlawed then in Leviticus. By then tribes of men had multiplied enough.
Not the Adam itt. That one is a complete and utter jackass. I’m taking about the first man crested in gods perfect image . Closer to gods genes than men of today.
Not the Adam itt. That one is a complete and utter jackass. I’m taking about the first man crested in gods perfect image . Closer to gods genes than men of today.
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
Those demons exist as energetic forms and if you know how to access them you can, just like you can access high vibration beings, such as with the spiritual process that Sadhguru offers - i.e., Kriya Yoga.I'm talking legit deals with demons etc. Not weird jungian archetype metaphors.
I.e. a person wants their fashion brand to take off so they start praying to demons, doing rituals, attending Satan groups and a "deal" is made with a legit force/being.
Does this happen? Anyone actually do this or know someone that did?
I.e. a person wants their fashion brand to take off so they start praying to demons, doing rituals, attending Satan groups and a "deal" is made with a legit force/being.
Does this happen? Anyone actually do this or know someone that did?
Because I believe in free will, I can tell you that this is certainly a possibility, and to start off with you can just idolize somebody who would do things to you and your child that would disgust most people, their mother, and maybe even you - then you will fit into this vibration quite quickly and swiftly.
Start doing what they do and harboring the thoughts they do and the devil(s) will appear into your life - superficiality, lies, deceit, greednish, hate, selfishness, the typical corporate america stuff.
I personally have no interest, but I would recommend Sadhguru as a spiritual teacher who can help you not want to deal with the devils of this world.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Love isn't a 'dimension'....no, my context of god can be any god where people are praying or meditating on a higher power of selflessness.
Once you experience a certain dimension called love, you can understand god by having that love towards all life, since that will make you selfless, so you view all as equal. Who do you prefer a selfish or selfless person in your life?
Once you experience a certain dimension called love, you can understand god by having that love towards all life, since that will make you selfless, so you view all as equal. Who do you prefer a selfish or selfless person in your life?
If we define God this loosely... then yeah, I believe in God... because to me God is a bowl of cereal. And I looooove cereal.
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I would if I could. I'd pledge to serve him and help him get revenge on God. Pretty sure he was the good guy in the bible anyway. In exchange, I'd only ask one thing of him -- that he unmake everything and leave it in the perfect harmony of the void. Then, God's crimes against order, peace, and justice by creating existence would be fully answered for. There would be nothing. And nothing is beauty.
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Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
Talk about a red herring.not that i am enlightened and your not, i mean we are all on this same journey in Life and some of us may be farther ahead of us by means of genetics and spiritual capacities. It is a blessing and a curse, depending on your mindset.
with that said, your thought processes stop at the 'synagogue of Satan' trope where you think no further than to question whether it to be an actual building as opposed to a metaphorical concept - some of us are thinking too literally into things that are not of the literal world, but of the spiritual world. If you can't read between the lines and garner even a rudimentary understanding, i'm not faulting ya for it, that's just genetic disposition i suppose.
for example, when i say open your mind i do not literally mean tear open your skull (which is where we might think our mind resides, in our brains) but rather to consider a new way of thinking, that there might be more to this world than meets the eye, to have curiosity in the unknown and to be humble enough to assert you (or I) may not know things that are of this world or beyond
Peace to you!
with that said, your thought processes stop at the 'synagogue of Satan' trope where you think no further than to question whether it to be an actual building as opposed to a metaphorical concept - some of us are thinking too literally into things that are not of the literal world, but of the spiritual world. If you can't read between the lines and garner even a rudimentary understanding, i'm not faulting ya for it, that's just genetic disposition i suppose.
for example, when i say open your mind i do not literally mean tear open your skull (which is where we might think our mind resides, in our brains) but rather to consider a new way of thinking, that there might be more to this world than meets the eye, to have curiosity in the unknown and to be humble enough to assert you (or I) may not know things that are of this world or beyond
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Concrete examples/methods people. Thread derailing fast.
I believe in God and Satan but am fully mind blown if people are legit summoning demons to further careers and businesses.
I believe in God and Satan but am fully mind blown if people are legit summoning demons to further careers and businesses.
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
Yeah guess what op, they’re all phaags, sign-up if you wantI'm talking legit deals with demons etc. Not weird jungian archetype metaphors.
I.e. a person wants their fashion brand to take off so they start praying to demons, doing rituals, attending Satan groups and a "deal" is made with a legit force/being.
Does this happen? Anyone actually do this or know someone that did?
I.e. a person wants their fashion brand to take off so they start praying to demons, doing rituals, attending Satan groups and a "deal" is made with a legit force/being.
Does this happen? Anyone actually do this or know someone that did?
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
I don't consort with what you refer to as demonic entities, but you can if you wantConcrete examples/methods people. Thread derailing fast.
I believe in God and Satan but am fully mind blown if people are legit summoning demons to further careers and businesses.
I believe in God and Satan but am fully mind blown if people are legit summoning demons to further careers and businesses.
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11-27-2022, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
you want to try it? speak it into existence and call out to one of those spirits and tell us how it fares - but it will come at a great cost (as all things do)Concrete examples/methods people. Thread derailing fast.
I believe in God and Satan but am fully mind blown if people are legit summoning demons to further careers and businesses.
I believe in God and Satan but am fully mind blown if people are legit summoning demons to further careers and businesses.
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Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
Fuark.you want to try it? speak it into existence and call out to one of those spirits and tell us how it fares - but it will come at a great cost (as all things do)
11-27-2022, 03:56 PM
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I don't know, but the story about the Blues guitarist (can't remember name and too lazy to Google right now, I think his last name was Johnson though) who supposedly made a "deal at the crossroads" is kind of interesting because people insisted that he had previously sucked at guitar and then suddenly became really good.
As far as others - it wouldn't shock me. At the very least, there are certainly celebs and the like making deals with evil people.
As far as others - it wouldn't shock me. At the very least, there are certainly celebs and the like making deals with evil people.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
What's funny is that I know for a fact that it's possible for one to receive skills energetically - or how when you're really good friends with somebody and you sort of love each other, you become like that person? Same thing here, where if you know how, you can act as a conduit for the source of creation.I don't know, but the story about the Blues guitarist (can't remember name and too lazy to Google right now, I think his last name was Johnson though) who supposedly made a "deal at the crossroads" is kind of interesting because people insisted that he had previously sucked at guitar and then suddenly became really good.
As far as others - it wouldn't shock me. At the very least, there are certainly celebs and the like making deals with evil people.
As far as others - it wouldn't shock me. At the very least, there are certainly celebs and the like making deals with evil people.
The source of creation has everything it it though, you, devils, gods, dogs, and everything else possible.
I get into these twin flame things with people often, and I notice it myself all of the time with how my posting style changes - so to me it would be a no brainer that some entity of being cna enter inside of you and influence your behaviour, but you have to want it in one way or another, as in the karma has to be there.
Then all you're doing is playing a character, but people think you're 'the real deal'.
The twin flame I had before my current one was some gangster guy (SRS) and i randomly started throwing fists and boxing like i've never done before, walking around funny to look tough, etc - I even kept posting on here about lame crap like 'putting it over people', etc, then all of the sudden i just stopped and that's when i realised i have a new twin flame who is more normal, to say the least.
When you're in that sort of 'union' you literally can't help it, you just do it automatically and it feels good - i've done things like shadow boxing as i was doing my afternoon cardio, which i've never done before.
The thing is, I called it upon my self by acting tough, etc - like I was a bit of a bad as when I was younger, but i wasn't a part of a gang or anything.
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
Yes dumb **** real first pageI'm talking legit deals with demons etc. Not weird jungian archetype metaphors.
I.e. a person wants their fashion brand to take off so they start praying to demons, doing rituals, attending Satan groups and a "deal" is made with a legit force/being.
Does this happen? Anyone actually do this or know someone that did?
I.e. a person wants their fashion brand to take off so they start praying to demons, doing rituals, attending Satan groups and a "deal" is made with a legit force/being.
Does this happen? Anyone actually do this or know someone that did?
People who want fame and be rich make pacts with the devil who is the synagogue of satan aka juice
11-27-2022, 04:10 PM
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11-27-2022, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
i'll one up you on that and throw you a bone. Recite this OP and report back in the coming daysFuark.
to whom do you want to speak to?
"____, I pray unto you, I beseech you, hear my call - in this life I yearn for great riches and power - unlike anything the world has ever seen.
I renounce my faith and trust in He who comes from Up High, and I look to the Down Under for power and Glory.
I surrender my Self wholly unto you to do as you see fit - I surrender my flesh and my blood, my soul and my spirit, my mind and my heart to be the vessel through which Your Will works in this world.
Reveal Yourself to me TODAY to prove that you even exist and I will be your Man"
11-27-2022, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted By mikebadg3⏩
zero chance im doing this (not even reading this srs)i'll one up you on that and throw you a bone. Recite this OP and report back in the coming days
to whom do you want to speak to?
"____, I pray unto you, I beseech you, hear my call - in this life I yearn for great riches and power - unlike anything the world has ever seen.
I renounce my faith and trust in He who comes from Up High, and I look to the Down Under for power and Glory.
I surrender my Self wholly unto you to do as you see fit - I surrender my flesh and my blood, my soul and my spirit, my mind and my heart to be the vessel through which Your Will works in this world.
Reveal Yourself to me TODAY to prove that you even exist and I will be your Man"
to whom do you want to speak to?
"____, I pray unto you, I beseech you, hear my call - in this life I yearn for great riches and power - unlike anything the world has ever seen.
I renounce my faith and trust in He who comes from Up High, and I look to the Down Under for power and Glory.
I surrender my Self wholly unto you to do as you see fit - I surrender my flesh and my blood, my soul and my spirit, my mind and my heart to be the vessel through which Your Will works in this world.
Reveal Yourself to me TODAY to prove that you even exist and I will be your Man"
11-27-2022, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
are people in finance who crush it (makes billions), doing the same? suddenly they can make incredible investments and raise money like never before?I don't know, but the story about the Blues guitarist (can't remember name and too lazy to Google right now, I think his last name was Johnson though) who supposedly made a "deal at the crossroads" is kind of interesting because people insisted that he had previously sucked at guitar and then suddenly became really good.
As far as others - it wouldn't shock me. At the very least, there are certainly celebs and the like making deals with evil people.
As far as others - it wouldn't shock me. At the very least, there are certainly celebs and the like making deals with evil people.
11-27-2022, 04:26 PM
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Lmao at the voodoo nonesense in this thread
will report back tomorrow
Originally Posted By kengriffeyjr24⏩
l i read it out loud, I'm neither possessed nor rich atmzero chance im doing this (not even reading this srs)
will report back tomorrow
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