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post 1674037093 01-03-2023, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By NealIRC⏩
Well, what occupations were they?

Imo, they had high salaries not because of their major, but because of their occupation.
I think the ones who did well did so because they had good critical thinking and analytical abilities, and good communication skills. That is something nutured by the degree. I agree of course it is due to the occupation, and that could be all over the place.

I started as a data analyst in market research, and proceeded taking on more software development roles in social research, then financial, and finally just pure software technology development.

People imo would do well as writers, software testers, analysts, etc with an undergraduate philosophy degree. Getting stuck at simple service jobs isn't necessary, but you may need to be hungry, very active in search, and willing to move.

Most of my cohort though was going into law, though. Taking a double major in statistics, math, psychology, comp science, or anything really would probably help a lot. I was very interested in philosophy of mind and did double in psychology...and in that learned statistics and programming through research projects and honors thesis.

If ONLY phil...maybe would have looked at writing or analyst jobs. CIA would hire a phil major srs. There's jobs out there where you just think and write reports.
post 1674037963 01-03-2023, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted By DDSF1⏩
Yeah, for us, the straight route PhD is: four years BA/BS, and either a) into a five-seven years doctoral program (which will automatically include an MA/MS), or b) a terminal MA/MS first and then into a five-seven year doctoral program (some schools you will automatically get a second MA/MS, but some schools allow you to bypass it and avoid another Master's Thesis). Most programs seem to be very strict in transferring terminal MA/MS credits to a doctoral program, so usually it is zero, or maybe six or nine at most in some cases. These are considered the quickest routes and so assuming someone starts uni at 18 they will be a fresh PhD at the soonest at 27 (typically). There are some early start programs for smart kids so they can get their HS diploma early and start their BA/BS early as well. In those cases they may shave off a couple years.

However, with our huge adult student (over 30 at the time they start post secondary education) and working part-time student population you get people becoming fresh PhDs at anywhere between 35-60. That is not uncommon and becoming more and more common here. There are some academics that argue this is not a bad thing because it brings real world experience to academia. I actually agree with that notion.
5-7 years for PhD inc a 2 year masters, is 3-5 years for a PhD with a forced and unnecessary masters added on.

The only time the UK forces the masters is if the bachelors wasn't strong enough and a masters is needed to effectively bump up the GPA.

I can see both sides of the argument on older folks doing post grad degrees (I did both masters and my 2nd PhD part time and slightly older) and I like to think that we as a company offer the best of both worlds. We have partnerships with several universities that allow the commercial research the employees do to count towards degrees.

There is no reason why a PhD needs to be done at a university. As long as the university supervises and ensures the candidate is the one doing the research; whether the research was conducted in a commercial lab or an academic one shouldn't matter.

Every employee is eligible and we cover all the costs. It's a very popular part of the benefits package.

Somebody graduating with a bachelors at 21 and then going back to university full time at 30+ to do a post grad degree is something I have very little knowledge of, so I cannot really comment.
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post 1674038773 01-03-2023, 09:59 AM
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I’d hire a college drop out who majored in STEM over someone with a BA, Masters, PHD in non stem.
post 1674038853 01-03-2023, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
My point was that they went and studied philosophy because they knew it didn't matter what they studied, as their family/family friends would get them a job.

I didn't know anybody from a working class background who chose philosophy; as they studied things that would get them jobs.

In all fairness, the people I knew all went to fairly good colleges, so I have no experience with those from lower tier schools.

The UK has something called the russell group, which is the top 24 universities. The vast majority of people I know went to one of those 24.
I have a BA and MA in Philosophy, working class background. None of this helped whatsoever, I just busted my ass and worked my way up in tech, the degrees just looked "good on paper"...some companies actually cared about it. Helped me get faculty positions, too. But I also took a very circuitous route in education, so I probably don't fit into anyone's idea about how you typically do stuff.
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post 1674053833 01-03-2023, 01:50 PM
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Gender studies
Womens studies
Anything to do with discrimination ie. cis binary white patriarchy studies
Pick a race studies
post 1674091503 01-04-2023, 03:29 AM
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post 1674101383 01-04-2023, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted By DuracellBunny⏩
Music, drama or theatre studies.

Those industies don't care about a degree and other industries don't take people with those degrees seriously.
You need a degree for any of those because when you inevitably don't make it as a performer, you're going to need it to get your teaching certificate for your backup job.
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Anything with "Studies" in the title is a safe bet.

However these days even STEM is far from a sure path to a great career. I know some Biology BSc's who drift around between unemployment and jobs that they could have got with any old useless degree.
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