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01-30-2023, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted By BasedNobleman⏩
I thought Christians were loving? Why don't you advise your brother instead?Don't worry, nobody that comprehends what you said actually thinks you're a Christian... especially when you can't define it yourself in anything other than inaccurate terms. Enjoy finding out the hard way from the pedestal of superiority you've created for yourself.
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01-30-2023, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted By BasedNobleman⏩
You don't even know what it means. Define Christianity because 100 people will tell you something different.Don't worry, nobody that comprehends what you said actually thinks you're a Christian... especially when you can't define it yourself in anything other than inaccurate terms. Enjoy finding out the hard way from the pedestal of superiority you've created for yourself.
There are 50 different sects, Orthodoxy will tell you they are the one and only true church and christians, they are closer to Catholic beliefs than protestant, and protestants don't all believe in a 3-headed triune God, but some do, and every other church thinks they are the true Christians.
Have you been to church lately? Last year alone I went to about 10 different churches of varying sects. Literally insanity. I call myself a Christian because I follow the bible, but when I go to church I can't believe this is what these people define as being Christian.
So please enlighten me oh holy one. You can't. I know it. I've spent my whole life basically trying to figure it out. The fact that I even question it gets Christain's telling me I will burn in hell and I am not Christian.
This is just saying I don't believe in the trinity and a 3 headed God because it isn't in the bible. So who's the Christian here? Me or him if you had to guess? All these churches I went to always talk about having questions and doubting. Talking about John and him questioning Jesus while he sit in a cell alone.

Why do Christian's always resort to cursing those who question? Why do they always spew hate and anger? Are they not actively sinning? What are the 7 deadly sins we always talk about?
01-30-2023, 07:03 PM
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Most people don’t even attempt to look at other religions at their core with an open mind. I’ve known good people who earnestly practice various faiths, and they have more in common than most people who just align to whatever team they are on.
01-30-2023, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted By DeadlyStriker⏩
Alot of these churches are cucked now srs. you even got LGBT propaganda and this clown world infecting them. i know many people don't consider Catholics christians but the pope is a literal cuck.You don't even know what it means. Define Christianity because 100 people will tell you something different.
There are 50 different sects, Orthodoxy will tell you they are the one and only true church and christians, they are closer to Catholic beliefs than protestant, and protestants don't all believe in a 3-headed triune God, but some do, and every other church thinks they are the true Christians.
Have you been to church lately? Last year alone I went to about 10 different churches of varying sects. Literally insanity. I call myself a Christian because I follow the bible, but when I go to church I can't believe this is what these people define as being Christian.
So please enlighten me oh holy one. You can't. I know it. I've spent my whole life basically trying to figure it out. The fact that I even question it gets Christain's telling me I will burn in hell and I am not Christian.
This is just saying I don't believe in the trinity and a 3 headed God because it isn't in the bible. So who's the Christian here? Me or him if you had to guess? All these churches I went to always talk about having questions and doubting. Talking about John and him questioning Jesus while he sit in a cell alone.

Why do Christian's always resort to cursing those who question? Why do they always spew hate and anger? Are they not actively sinning? What are the 7 deadly sins we always talk about?
There are 50 different sects, Orthodoxy will tell you they are the one and only true church and christians, they are closer to Catholic beliefs than protestant, and protestants don't all believe in a 3-headed triune God, but some do, and every other church thinks they are the true Christians.
Have you been to church lately? Last year alone I went to about 10 different churches of varying sects. Literally insanity. I call myself a Christian because I follow the bible, but when I go to church I can't believe this is what these people define as being Christian.
So please enlighten me oh holy one. You can't. I know it. I've spent my whole life basically trying to figure it out. The fact that I even question it gets Christain's telling me I will burn in hell and I am not Christian.
This is just saying I don't believe in the trinity and a 3 headed God because it isn't in the bible. So who's the Christian here? Me or him if you had to guess? All these churches I went to always talk about having questions and doubting. Talking about John and him questioning Jesus while he sit in a cell alone.

Why do Christian's always resort to cursing those who question? Why do they always spew hate and anger? Are they not actively sinning? What are the 7 deadly sins we always talk about?
also lol @ that neg, if anything he's gonna die for eternity for being a complete hypocrite who can't even bother to capitalize God on one hand and wishing death on the other. lol
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01-30-2023, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Adam16121⏩
Sup brah appreciate it btwMost people don’t even attempt to look at other religions at their core with an open mind. I’ve known good people who earnestly practice various faiths, and they have more in common than most people who just align to whatever team they are on.
I agree - I read the Bible even though I'm not Christian. Just for knowledge and if I found the truth in it, I'd seriously consider it. I doubt most Christians even read the Quran tbh. Maybe they'd be surprised and could learn something.
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01-30-2023, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
My father is Muslim and he keeps a King James bible in his library next to the Quran. It’s filled with little sticky notes of his thoughts in certain areas of it. Someday, I’ll read all of it. I was in a young muslim organization in my youth, and spent years in a muslim school. Meditated with Sufis in NY. My parents were happy when I was able to recite the Quran in Arabic many years ago. I’m not unfamiliar with it. And yet, my wife is Catholic. My three closest friends are a Hindu girl, a Catholic guy, and a Protestant bro. At this point, I’m not very religious at all. But I appreciate religion and the many ethical tenants that are shared between them.Sup brah appreciate it btw
I agree - I read the Bible even though I'm not Christian. Just for knowledge and if I found the truth in it, I'd seriously consider it. I doubt most Christians even read the Quran tbh. Maybe they'd be surprised and could learn something.
I agree - I read the Bible even though I'm not Christian. Just for knowledge and if I found the truth in it, I'd seriously consider it. I doubt most Christians even read the Quran tbh. Maybe they'd be surprised and could learn something.
I’m sure that places me in hell and whatnot depending on who you ask, but I’m not convinced of that being the case.
01-30-2023, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You follow a Peeeeedo. Why?
Originally Posted By BigElephant⏩
Their prophet had sex with minors so it makes them feel better about them raping their sons in the fields while US soldiers hear their screams.
Originally Posted By Dogkrack⏩
These are retarded because you are insulting Christianity by trying to insult Islam. Mary was around 12 when she was married to Joseph, while in the bible (Numbers 31:17-18), Moses commands the army officers to kill everyone but keep "only the little girls who are virgins" for themselves. It doesn't mean that Moses was a **** hecause age was an entirely different concept until recently.muslims are only outdone by jews when it comes to pederasty. let that skink in.
Richard II of England married a 6 year old at 29, and it was never brought up by anyone in any negative light at all, not by the domestic nor any foreign enemies. The world was different.
Generally, it was accepted that a girl who started menses was ready to mate and that was all they had to go by, and it makes sense, but even THAT wasn't a strict prerequisite (see richard's marriage). In fact, Islam was the first religion to actually enforce that marrying people had to be biologically and mentally ready and healthy for marriage. You couldn't consummate marriage with someone who doesn't understand whats going on and isn't biologically able to handle it.
Same with Muhammad's marriage btw. His marriage to Aisha was never mentioned by any of his enemies of pagan, Christian, Jewish or whatever other backgrounds. Also, while he married her at 6, she did not move to his house until 9, and whether they consummated the marriage at that later time is unknown because she was never pregnant. Also, there is strong evidence that she was 18 when she married him (although it is just accepted as a strong possibility that contradicts most accounts).
01-30-2023, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted By goingcia⏩
Deputy Dave got rekt because he failed to do his own researchThese are retarded because you are insulting Christianity by trying to insult Islam. Mary was around 12 when she was married to Joseph, while in the bible (Numbers 31:17-18), Moses commands the army officers to kill everyone but keep "only the little girls who are virgins" for themselves. It doesn't mean that Moses was a **** hecause age was an entirely different concept until recently.
Richard II of England married a 6 year old at 29, and it was never brought up by anyone in any negative light at all, not by the domestic nor any foreign enemies. The world was different.
Generally, it was accepted that a girl who started menses was ready to mate and that was all they had to go by, and it makes sense, but even THAT wasn't a strict prerequisite (see richard's marriage). In fact, Islam was the first religion to actually enforce that marrying people had to be biologically and mentally ready and healthy for marriage. You couldn't consummate marriage with someone who doesn't understand whats going on and isn't biologically able to handle it.
Same with Muhammad's marriage btw. His marriage to Aisha was never mentioned by any of his enemies of pagan, Christian, Jewish or whatever other backgrounds. Also, while he married her at 6, she did not move to his house until 9, and whether they consummated the marriage at that later time is unknown because she was never pregnant. Also, there is strong evidence that she was 18 when she married him (although it is just accepted as a strong possibility that contradicts most accounts).
Richard II of England married a 6 year old at 29, and it was never brought up by anyone in any negative light at all, not by the domestic nor any foreign enemies. The world was different.
Generally, it was accepted that a girl who started menses was ready to mate and that was all they had to go by, and it makes sense, but even THAT wasn't a strict prerequisite (see richard's marriage). In fact, Islam was the first religion to actually enforce that marrying people had to be biologically and mentally ready and healthy for marriage. You couldn't consummate marriage with someone who doesn't understand whats going on and isn't biologically able to handle it.
Same with Muhammad's marriage btw. His marriage to Aisha was never mentioned by any of his enemies of pagan, Christian, Jewish or whatever other backgrounds. Also, while he married her at 6, she did not move to his house until 9, and whether they consummated the marriage at that later time is unknown because she was never pregnant. Also, there is strong evidence that she was 18 when she married him (although it is just accepted as a strong possibility that contradicts most accounts).
01-30-2023, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted By goingcia⏩
Don't even take them serious they don't even know their own book. Tbh I doubt Christians read their bible. The issue is the preachers only say Jesus is love and that is all they believe.These are retarded because you are insulting Christianity by trying to insult Islam. Mary was around 12 when she was married to Joseph, while in the bible (Numbers 31:17-18), Moses commands the army officers to kill everyone but keep "only the little girls who are virgins" for themselves. It doesn't mean that Moses was a **** hecause age was an entirely different concept until recently.
Richard II of England married a 6 year old at 29, and it was never brought up by anyone in any negative light at all, not by the domestic nor any foreign enemies. The world was different.
Generally, it was accepted that a girl who started menses was ready to mate and that was all they had to go by, and it makes sense, but even THAT wasn't a strict prerequisite (see richard's marriage). In fact, Islam was the first religion to actually enforce that marrying people had to be biologically and mentally ready and healthy for marriage. You couldn't consummate marriage with someone who doesn't understand whats going on and isn't biologically able to handle it.
Same with Muhammad's marriage btw. His marriage to Aisha was never mentioned by any of his enemies of pagan, Christian, Jewish or whatever other backgrounds. Also, while he married her at 6, she did not move to his house until 9, and whether they consummated the marriage at that later time is unknown because she was never pregnant. Also, there is strong evidence that she was 18 when she married him (although it is just accepted as a strong possibility that contradicts most accounts).
Richard II of England married a 6 year old at 29, and it was never brought up by anyone in any negative light at all, not by the domestic nor any foreign enemies. The world was different.
Generally, it was accepted that a girl who started menses was ready to mate and that was all they had to go by, and it makes sense, but even THAT wasn't a strict prerequisite (see richard's marriage). In fact, Islam was the first religion to actually enforce that marrying people had to be biologically and mentally ready and healthy for marriage. You couldn't consummate marriage with someone who doesn't understand whats going on and isn't biologically able to handle it.
Same with Muhammad's marriage btw. His marriage to Aisha was never mentioned by any of his enemies of pagan, Christian, Jewish or whatever other backgrounds. Also, while he married her at 6, she did not move to his house until 9, and whether they consummated the marriage at that later time is unknown because she was never pregnant. Also, there is strong evidence that she was 18 when she married him (although it is just accepted as a strong possibility that contradicts most accounts).
Just ask them why God in the old testament (mind you they believe it's Jesus) said to keep the virgin girls to themselves and to kill everyone else. Why the virgins? Imagine a woman who was married? I thought marriage was a good thing?
Numbers 31:16-18
“They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people.
Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
What about when God commanded revenge after 400 years to a people who came generations after who had nothing to do? What did the animals do??? God told them to go get revenge for their forefathers and that is injustice. Something happened at the time of Jacob that the Amalekites did to Jacob so 400 years later so Samuel said to Saul that the Lord came to annoint you as a king to the Jews and to get revenge.
1 Samuel 15
Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the LORD sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the LORD.
This is what the LORD Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt.
Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"
Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust⏩
Didn't I make a statement that how does God pray to God? You said that isn't true and I posted versesDeputy Dave got rekt because he failed to do his own research
Mark 1:35
In the early morning, while it was still dark, Jesus got up, left the house, and went away to a secluded place, and was praying there.
Matthew 26:36
Then Jesus *came with them to a place called Gethsemane, and *said to His disciples, “Sit here while I go over there and pray.”
Your reply was "don't worry about that keep reading your Bible?"
So, what research did you do to get there? Please inform us how God prays to God.
Am I more christian than you? Didn't all the Old Testament prophets, Jesus, and the discipline all pray with their heads to the ground?
Spoiler!
Matthew 17:6
"And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid."
Genesis 17:17
"Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear?"
Exodus 34:8
"And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped."
Numbers 20:6
“And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the LORD appeared unto them.”
Numbers 16:20-22
"And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying, Separate yourselves from among this congregation, that I may consume them in a moment. And they fell upon their faces, and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin, and wilt thou be wroth with all the congregation?"
Nehemiah 8:6
And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with [their] faces to the ground.
Joshua 5:14
"And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my Lord unto his servant?"
Ezekiel 9:8
"And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?"
2 Chronicles 20:18
"And Jehoshaphat bowed his head with his face to the ground: and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem fell before the LORD, worshipping the LORD."
Ezekiel 11:13
"And it came to pass, when I prophesied, that Pelatiah the son of Benaiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou make a full end of the remnant of Israel?"
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Originally Posted By goingcia⏩
Agreed. I always lol @ christians insulting other religions, particularly Islam, for the same stuff that is contained in their own books more or less, i.e: stories of where people married young.These are retarded because you are insulting Christianity by trying to insult Islam. Mary was around 12 when she was married to Joseph, while in the bible (Numbers 31:17-18), Moses commands the army officers to kill everyone but keep "only the little girls who are virgins" for themselves. It doesn't mean that Moses was a **** hecause age was an entirely different concept until recently.
Richard II of England married a 6 year old at 29, and it was never brought up by anyone in any negative light at all, not by the domestic nor any foreign enemies. The world was different.
Generally, it was accepted that a girl who started menses was ready to mate and that was all they had to go by, and it makes sense, but even THAT wasn't a strict prerequisite (see richard's marriage). In fact, Islam was the first religion to actually enforce that marrying people had to be biologically and mentally ready and healthy for marriage. You couldn't consummate marriage with someone who doesn't understand whats going on and isn't biologically able to handle it.
Same with Muhammad's marriage btw. His marriage to Aisha was never mentioned by any of his enemies of pagan, Christian, Jewish or whatever other backgrounds. Also, while he married her at 6, she did not move to his house until 9, and whether they consummated the marriage at that later time is unknown because she was never pregnant. Also, there is strong evidence that she was 18 when she married him (although it is just accepted as a strong possibility that contradicts most accounts).
Richard II of England married a 6 year old at 29, and it was never brought up by anyone in any negative light at all, not by the domestic nor any foreign enemies. The world was different.
Generally, it was accepted that a girl who started menses was ready to mate and that was all they had to go by, and it makes sense, but even THAT wasn't a strict prerequisite (see richard's marriage). In fact, Islam was the first religion to actually enforce that marrying people had to be biologically and mentally ready and healthy for marriage. You couldn't consummate marriage with someone who doesn't understand whats going on and isn't biologically able to handle it.
Same with Muhammad's marriage btw. His marriage to Aisha was never mentioned by any of his enemies of pagan, Christian, Jewish or whatever other backgrounds. Also, while he married her at 6, she did not move to his house until 9, and whether they consummated the marriage at that later time is unknown because she was never pregnant. Also, there is strong evidence that she was 18 when she married him (although it is just accepted as a strong possibility that contradicts most accounts).
People back then got married for different reasons for why people get married today. For example, to strengthen bonds between families, strengthen friendships, political/power reasons, unite tribes, save women from poverty and ensure they are taken care of, to have tons of children, etc. Today alot of people get married simply for legal reasons (although arguable as there is common-law), companionship, children although alot of that stuff you don't even need to get married for. It's just largely ceremonial if not done for religious purposes.
The concept of age of marriage and consent are relatively new concepts and are subjective. Also they change and adapt based on how society changes and adapts. i.e: why should it be 13 instead of 12?, why should it be 18 instead of 16?, etc. Proof of that is even the individual American states themselves. Islam made it simple by saying when they are biologically and mentally ready, aka puberty so there is no confusion. Religion if one and true shouldn't change based on man-made societal happenings because religion is supposed to be divine decree. It's basically a uniform standard that can be applied no matter the era. However that does not mean bc say the minimum age is 14 or 15, that somebody should get married at 14 or 15, there's a lot more to consider there. These are relatively new criticisms that never existed back then because this was understood.
Look at America, some states don't even have a minimum age (obviously it is subject to many restrictions which of course there SHOULD be). Some states have it at 14, 15, 16, 18, etc. And these have changed based on how society organizes and orients itself over time. The problem is, people trying to apply the norms and the context of society today, to that of society 1400 years ago, when they were completely different times. People died sooner, there was no "school system" where kids go through kindergarten, primary school, high school, university and get a job/career. Where as kids back then were often helping support the family, working, fighting, etc at an earlier age. A 12 year old back then was more mature than a 12 year old TODAY.
So what's gonna happen when in the future the legal age increase? Are those people suddenly "p3d0s" now based on what society deems to be accepted and not accepted 50-100 years from now? With society as it is now, it seems that people are mentally maturing more at a later age and arguably many not maturing at all based on how coddled and comfortable everything is. Point is, it is disingenuous to apply the sort of standards in one era to that of another because society and the world at large was a lot different. It doesn't necessarily make it right or wrong.
I think people also willfully ignore the fact that he married older women, divorced women, widowed women as well.
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