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post 1679765893 03-28-2023, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By darkninja67⏩
tell me you actually believe this nonsense??


Go get an education
you cant be serious lol
post 1679765993 03-28-2023, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
You quite literally need to look at current technology, weaponry etc, define it and then see whether it falls under free speech or the 2A or whatever. But most miscers don't come further than quoting a few words out of a single sentence of a single article of the constitution and they call it a day.
That's not what "living document" means in the United States dude.

It's a specific viewpoint by some that says it can be reinterpreted without amendment.
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post 1679766103 03-28-2023, 01:06 PM
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Trans folks are mentally ill, so it's the same question as "should mentally ill people be denied their 2A rights."

I'm not American, so it's hard to related to what the constitution truly means to you.

What I will say though is, it's a slippery slope. Who else is mentally ill? Should people with schizophrenia be denied access? What about those with depression?

Who fits under the mentally ill umbrella, and who gets to decide?

With 400 million privately owned firearms in the US, and pretty much anyone with a couple hundred bucks able to buy it off a ghetto corner anyway, imo it's better just to make sure the law-abiding people are armed, rather than encroaching on the God given rights of every person if you simply designate them as 'mentally ill'.
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post 1679766233 03-28-2023, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By steeler505⏩
Trans folks are mentally ill, so it's the same question as "should mentally ill people be denied their 2A rights."

I'm not American, so it's hard to related to what the constitution truly means to you.

What I will say though is, it's a slippery slope. Who else is mentally ill? Should people with schizophrenia be denied access? What about those with depression?

Who fits under the mentally ill umbrella, and who gets to decide?

With 400 million privately owned firearms in the US, and pretty much anyone with a couple hundred bucks able to buy it off a ghetto corner anyway, imo it's better just to make sure the law-abiding people are armed, rather than encroaching on the God given rights of every person if you simply designate them as 'mentally ill'.
Leave it to the Danish to be based af.

This is how to use logic you other dumb European phucks.
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post 1679766373 03-28-2023, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Right, so you can't own any firearms made after 1776 or whatever year that constitution was written and you don't have free speech on platforms made after 1776. You couldn't be more wrong. The constitution would be completely useless and basically non-existent if it wasn't a "living document".
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post 1679766423 03-28-2023, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
bruh most euros are giga cucked when it comes to guns, they look at a gun and literally get scared srs

if you have a gun they think you want to kill someone srs
Yeah but there's some of you that aren't morons.
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post 1679766453 03-28-2023, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By steeler505⏩
Trans folks are mentally ill, so it's the same question as "should mentally ill people be denied their 2A rights."

I'm not American, so it's hard to related to what the constitution truly means to you.

What I will say though is, it's a slippery slope. Who else is mentally ill? Should people with schizophrenia be denied access? What about those with depression?

Who fits under the mentally ill umbrella, and who gets to decide?

With 400 million privately owned firearms in the US, and pretty much anyone with a couple hundred bucks able to buy it off a ghetto corner anyway, imo it's better just to make sure the law-abiding people are armed, rather than encroaching on the God given rights of every person if you simply designate them as 'mentally ill'.
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post 1679766463 03-28-2023, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Srs answer they already don’t allow mentally defect people to own guns. We just need to point out the elephant in the room.
bingo. time to start calling it as it is and no more woke bullchit its way past the point of dangerous.
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post 1679766573 03-28-2023, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
That's not what "living document" means in the United States dude.

It's a specific viewpoint by some that says it can be reinterpreted without amendment.
You're taking an extreme interpretation of a viewpoint and pretending that it's the entire concept. I literally wrote my thesis on the constitutionality of the patriot act before moving on to study international law. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about a lot better than most yankee internet warriors with a degree in circle jerking on the misc.
Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
bruh most euros are giga cucked when it comes to guns, they look at a gun and literally get scared srs

if you have a gun they think you want to kill someone srs
I was looking into getting a hunter's license when I get back to the Netherlands and they make you jump through so many hoops. I bet if I do manage to get one I probably would barely even be able to hunt because of animal rights and chit. Which we were as based as the Swiss in this regard.
post 1679767063 03-28-2023, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
bruh most euros are giga cucked when it comes to guns, they look at a gun and literally get scared srs

if you have a gun they think you want to kill someone srs
I always thought it's interesting that Euros/the cucked Americans act as if firearms are items of death and destruction, but will happily text while driving their 2 ton SUV
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post 1679767193 03-28-2023, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted By ACEofBASED⏩
The constitution is a living document, not written I'm stone. When the 2nd amendment was written, I don't think the founding fathers foresaw a vast segment of.the population on mind altering pharmaceutical cocktails.
No... There is no living there is no breathing. It wasn't written by "God", but men that agreed.

It is Flawed. Luckily they had enough foresight to see that it would need to be updated and AMENDED.

The living breathing BS is just a bunch of crap used to make it say things it never did.
post 1679767643 03-28-2023, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
You're taking an extreme interpretation of a viewpoint and pretending that it's the entire concept. I literally wrote my thesis on the constitutionality of the patriot act before moving on to study international law. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about a lot better than most yankee internet warriors with a degree in circle jerking on the misc.
Idk what you're talking about at all. What exactly are you debating with me?

The 2nd amendment is written clearly and there's supporting documentation from the founding fathers and philosophers from that time period as to why it was put there in the first place.

I wrote a thesis on the tensile strength of turds before and after creatine. I'm equally, if not more qualified.
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post 1679768303 03-28-2023, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
Idk what you're talking about at all. What exactly are you debating with me?

The 2nd amendment is written clearly and there's supporting documentation from the founding fathers and philosophers from that time period as to why it was put there in the first place.

I wrote a thesis on the tensile strength of turds before and after creatine. I'm equally, if not more qualified.
You challenged my definition of what a living document means with an extreme interpretation filled with political bias and now you're just completely deflecting. Whatever man.
post 1679768893 03-28-2023, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
You challenged my definition of what a living document means with an extreme interpretation filled with political bias and now you're just completely deflecting. Whatever man.
Defecting?

I don't even clearly understand your point.

You argued that it IS a "living document" because you'd only be able to own guns before the constitution was ratified if it wasn't. That statement walks the fine line of mentally disabled.

The constitutionality of the Patriot Act depends on the reader - your thesis would not have proven any facts. Our current SCOTUS would probably find it unconstitutional even if many of them were put in by the Bush fam.
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post 1679769563 03-28-2023, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
Defecting?

I don't even clearly understand your point.

You argued that it IS a "living document" because you'd only be able to own guns before the constitution was ratified if it wasn't. That statement walks the fine line of mentally disabled.

The constitutionality of the Patriot Act depends on the reader - your thesis would not have proven any facts. Our current SCOTUS would probably find it unconstitutional even if many of them were put in by the Bush fam.
Right, I just took an extreme example to make fun of the guy for making a dumb statement. Obviously it doesn't mean you wouldn't be able to own arms produced after that date. It being a living document means that you'd still have to look at the definition of the word arms, what falls under it today, what was the original intent of the writers of the constitution.

Does a tank or a rocket launcher fall under the definition arms? Probably not. But does it fit the original intent of the writers suggest the whole reason of the 2A is for the citizens to be on equal footing when it comes to fighting tyranny? Yes it does. It's not as black and white as stating "every citizen should be able to have every weapon without any limitations whatsoever", which I see some people argue often enough.

Regarding my thesis, quite obvious a legal thesis of a bachelor student doesn't prove any facts. My opinion was that many parts of it should have been deemed illegal but in the end it would depend on the SCOTUS. Again, it's about it being a living document in the sense that you need to interpret a 250 years old text and see if the founding fathers would have wanted digital communication to fall under the 4th amendment. It simply makes no sense to claim it's some kind of rigid document. That's not how law works.
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no. if you are too dangerous to be able to exercise your constituional rights then you should be removed society all together because you will be equally dangerous with some other means. no free person should be barred their rights.
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