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post 1682502443 05-11-2023, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but are you praying for them or through them?
We believe the Saints in heaven are by God's grace able to hear us when we ask for their intercession and that they will then pray for us before the throne of God.

There may be some more nuance to it than that but I'm not a theologian.
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
Maybe I'm misunderstanding but are you praying for them or through them?
this phegget always shows up in Christian thread with his passive aggressive Islam shilling lulz.

Bro, I don't profess to understanding neither Christianity or Islam on a theologically deep level, but almost every high level debate I've seen, the Christians fkn WASH the Muslim almost 95% of the time.

How do you reconcile this? William Lane Craig absolutely bodies every Islamic apologist he ever goes up against.
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Originally Posted By fox994⏩
We believe the Saints in heaven are by God's grace able to hear us when we ask for their intercession and that they will then pray for us before the throne of God.

There may be some more nuance to it than that but I'm not a theologian.
don't bother responding to him in good faith. He's weaseling his way into bringing Islam into the thread, and will most definitely start criticizing/pointing out what he believes to be wrong and inconsistent beliefs in Christianity (Trinity, praying to false idols, etc.,) very soon. He always sets it up like that by pretending to ask seemingly random/harmless questions.
post 1682521843 05-11-2023, 03:30 PM
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miscerForLulz mogs all catholics srs

another win for Islam
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post 1682522823 05-11-2023, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted By fox994⏩
We believe the Saints in heaven are by God's grace able to hear us when we ask for their intercession and that they will then pray for us before the throne of God.

There may be some more nuance to it than that but I'm not a theologian.
Hence God can hear all and no need to pray through anyone but directly to him
Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
this phegget always shows up in Christian thread with his passive aggressive Islam shilling lulz.

Bro, I don't profess to understanding neither Christianity or Islam on a theologically deep level, but almost every high level debate I've seen, the Christians fkn WASH the Muslim almost 95% of the time.

How do you reconcile this? William Lane Craig absolutely bodies every Islamic apologist he ever goes up against.
Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
don't bother responding to him in good faith. He's weaseling his way into bringing Islam into the thread, and will most definitely start criticizing/pointing out what he believes to be wrong and inconsistent beliefs in Christianity (Trinity, praying to false idols, etc.,) very soon. He always sets it up like that by pretending to ask seemingly random/harmless questions.
brootal

- I don't profess to understanding neither Christianity or Islam on a theologically deep level
- almost every high level debate I've seen, the Christians fkn WASH the Muslim almost 95% of the time.

which one is it?
Originally Posted By Goodguy03⏩
miscerForLulz mogs all catholics srs

another win for Islam
U should join brah
2:136
Say, ˹O believers,˺ We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.
post 1682523023 05-11-2023, 03:51 PM
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There is a meta-analysis of 63 studies positing that religion has a negative relationship with intelligence. Another study was done by Pew shows that atheists and agnostics are actually more knowledgeable when it comes to religion than the religious.

I cannot post links just yet, but a quick search should bring them up with ease.
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
Hence God can hear all and no need to pray through anyone but directly to him





brootal

- I don't profess to understanding neither Christianity or Islam on a theologically deep level
- almost every high level debate I've seen, the Christians fkn WASH the Muslim almost 95% of the time.

which one is it?



U should join brah
Both. Because logic is a universal language. Body language also tells everything. William Lane Craig has all the Muslim apologist deflecting, weaseling, and logically cornered. This is all understandable to anyone who regularly watches debates of every kind. You know when someone has lost the argument, despite not understanding the argument at the highest level yourself.

Not understanding on a deep theological level as William Lane Craig does not mean zero knowledge of the subject, you goof.
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Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
Both. Because logic is a universal language. Body language also tells everything. William Lane Craig has all the Muslim apologist deflecting, weaseling, and logically cornered. This is all understandable to anyone who regularly watches debates of every kind. You know when someone has lost the argument, despite not understanding the argument at the highest level yourself.

Not understanding on a deep theological level as William Lane Craig does not mean zero knowledge of the subject, you goof.
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post 1682523763 05-11-2023, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
srs
ded fkn srs.
post 1682527503 05-11-2023, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted By StrongAtheist⏩
There is a meta-analysis of 63 studies positing that religion has a negative relationship with intelligence. Another study was done by Pew shows that atheists and agnostics are actually more knowledgeable when it comes to religion than the religious.

I cannot post links just yet, but a quick search should bring them up with ease.
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post 1682528283 05-11-2023, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By ReturnOfChang⏩
ded fkn srs.
Wooohoooo

William Lane Craig is a top g

And you are a top g too Condor
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz⏩
srs
Hey why you put the hijab on the female?

How can you see dat ass with a hijab?
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Originally Posted By StrongAtheist⏩
There is a meta-analysis of 63 studies positing that religion has a negative relationship with intelligence. Another study was done by Pew shows that atheists and agnostics are actually more knowledgeable when it comes to religion than the religious.

I cannot post links just yet, but a quick search should bring them up with ease.
How can you be Satanist/atheist if God doesn't exist?

Without God, there ain't no devil
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Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
Hey why you put the hijab on the female?

How can you see dat ass with a hijab?
Because Mary covered
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Originally Posted By Goodguy03⏩
none of them seem to realize that their denomination has nothing to do with the bible at all lol

brb gotta pray to saint paul
brb gotta get baptised or im going to hell
brb gotta confess to peedo priest
brb cant read the bible for myself, a priest has to do it for me
brb im a total NPC
You got the first one wrong Protestants revere St Paul, Catholics revere St Peter, St Peter according to Church Doctrine is the first pope
post 1682529753 05-11-2023, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
How can you be Satanist/atheist if God doesn't exist?

Without God, there ain't no devil
Because we Satanists do not actually worship Satan or believe that Satan is a being. Here is your answer straight from the Church of Satan website:
Q: Why do Satanists worship the devil?
A:"We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions. Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.” Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection of our highest personal potential. We do not believe in Satan as a being or person."
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Originally Posted By StrongAtheist⏩
Because we Satanists do not actually worship Satan or believe that Satan is a being. Here is your answer straight from the Church of Satan website:
Q: Why do Satanists worship the devil?
A:"We don’t. Satanists are atheists. We see the universe as being indifferent to us, and so all morals and values are subjective human constructions. Our position is to be self-centered, with ourselves being the most important person (the “God”) of our subjective universe, so we are sometimes said to worship ourselves. Our current High Priest Gilmore calls this the step moving from being an atheist to being an “I-Theist.” Satan to us is a symbol of pride, liberty and individualism, and it serves as an external metaphorical projection of our highest personal potential. We do not believe in Satan as a being or person."
Oh you mean Anton Lavey??

That is so ****gy. Just call it atheism then.

I used to be atheist too fam
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Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
Oh you mean Anton Lavey??

That is so ****gy. Just call it atheism then.

I used to be atheist too fam
We call it atheism too, we just call it Satanism as well in order to troll the Christians. If they can have their crosses and churches, we can also have our goat statues and temples. Christian nationalists don't realize that America has freedom of religion. I have gripes with all religion, but moreso Christianity given that they want to claim America is a Christian nation when yet the 1st amendment makes a clear separation between church and state via the establishment clause. Last thing I want is a theocracy and American Taliban. We've already seen how the Islamic state does things and what the Catholic Church did with the heretics back in the day.
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Originally Posted By StrongAtheist⏩
We call it atheism too, we just call it Satanism as well in order to troll the Christians. If they can have their crosses and churches, we can also have our goat statues and temples. Christian nationalists don't realize that America has freedom of religion. I have gripes with all religion, but moreso Christianity given that they want to claim America is a Christian nation when yet the 1st amendment makes a clear separation between church and state via the establishment clause. Last thing I want is a theocracy and American Taliban. We've already seen how the Islamic state does things and what the Catholic Church did with the heretics back in the day.
I agree with you fam.

Especially the 1st amendment.

I also have gripes with religion.

But it's a good thing I found this website that you can check out if you want.

It's called Jesus Without Religion.

Jesus was NOT christian or religious.

Jesus Christ is the name. Christ "ian" was added by other people.

Enjoy this if you want to


https://jesuswithoutreligion.com/
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Originally Posted By newmisc4⏩
I agree with you fam.

Especially the 1st amendment.

I also have gripes with religion.

But it's a good thing I found this website that you can check out if you want.

It's called Jesus Without Religion.

Jesus was NOT christian or religious.

Jesus Christ is the name. Christ "ian" was added by other people.

Enjoy this if you want to

I have 0 gripes with Jesus. The fundamentalists and fanatics have given Christianity a bad name. I'm not going to go as far as saying I believe he walked on water and came back from the dead and all (as all of that is just largely metaphoric and added flavor), but I am all on board with his teachings.
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Originally Posted By StrongAtheist⏩
I have 0 gripes with Jesus. The fundamentalists and fanatics have given Christianity a bad name. I'm not going to go as far as saying I believe he walked on water and came back from the dead and all (as all of that is just largely metaphoric and added flavor), but I am all on board with his teachings.
There are a lot of everyday unbelievable things to me:

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you're never an ex Catholic, you are always in recovery
Well that's how he described himself. I just figured it meant that he doesn't consider himself Catholic anymore but once did.
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At least Catholics have some sort of unity within their church, unlike protestants who have 4,000 different sects throughout the United States who all think that only their specific brand of Christianity is valid while seeing nothing odd about that.
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People are indoctrinated and guilted into their parents religious beliefs from a young age. Not low IQ, just going with the status quo they were brainwashed with from birth.
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