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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
If we dug through their quotes, I wonder who praised Fauci more?

Meanwhile, on this one - I judge by actions. Trump faltered, Desantis overall paved the way.
Trump asked people to stay home for two weeks to stop the spread but never tried to mandate it.

Desantis mandated a lockdown that lasted a until may 2020
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March of 2020 lmao.

Trump meanwhile still praises the vax. Magatards arent serious people. Lockdown Don and the Magatards.
Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Trump asked people to stay home for two weeks to stop the spread but never tried to mandate it.

Desantis mandated a lockdown that lasted a until may 2020
do you agree with your lockdown daddy that cuomo did better than desantis?
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
March of 2020 lmao.

Trump meanwhile still praises the vax. Magatards arent serious people. Lockdown Don and the Magatards.



do you agree with your lockdown daddy that cuomo did better than desantis?
Cuomo tards arent trying to bitch and moan about trumps covid response so I dont care

You idiots though....LOL
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Cuomo tards arent trying to bitch and moan about trumps covid response so I dont care

You idiots though....LOL
Lol wat.

Cuomo and his "Cuomosexuals" were rabidly attacking Blumpf every single day over his covid response
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Trump asked people to stay home for two weeks to stop the spread but never tried to mandate it.

Desantis mandated a lockdown that lasted a until may 2020
Insane how well he did compared to the vast majority of other states and the vast majority of the world. You're really going hard on this Desantis praising huh. Are you finally done with the orange clown?
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Cuomo tards arent trying to bitch and moan about trumps covid response so I dont care

You idiots though....LOL
doesnt even make sense.


im just glad this means magatards like yourself wont be in florida anymore. stay in new york.
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Originally Posted By Phil9⏩
I agreed with him on most international policy anyways.
So you probably agreed with Trump's foreign policy then too? Can you admit that Dr. Phil?
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
If we dug through their quotes, I wonder who praised Fauci more?

Meanwhile, on this one - I judge by actions. Trump faltered, Desantis overall paved the way.
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I think that's hard to compare them because they were coming at it from different positions. Comparing two different governors or two different presidents/leaders would make more sense...
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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
March of 2020 lmao.

Trump meanwhile still praises the vax. Magatards arent serious people. Lockdown Don and the Magatards.



do you agree with your lockdown daddy that cuomo did better than desantis?
He was wrong on the vax as were most. He was never for mandating it which was the real problem. That's all that matters...
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Originally Posted By Fishman15⏩
He was wrong on the vax as were most. He was never for mandating it which was the real problem. That's all that matters...
Oh fk off with this garbage. He still touts it as an acomplishment.


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Originally Posted By Mountaineer92⏩
Oh fk off with this garbage. He still touts it as an acomplishment.


magatards i wish you well in your gulags.
Did he mandate it or not? Was he in charge of the bull**** serum or something? So are you sure any other president wouldn't have done the same thing in that scenario?
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Insane how well he did compared to the vast majority of other states and the vast majority of the world. You're really going hard on this Desantis praising huh. Are you finally done with the orange clown?
You know I thought that too, especially living in Florida when Desantis came out hard against lockdowns and covid restrictions that summer I thought he was the goat. But comparing him to other red states...he was kind of meh. They just weren't as outspoken as he was.

Still I don't have a problem with how he handled it other than minor quibbling. Yeah he locked us down for a month but I don't think that's really a big deal. The point is that he took much more authoritarian measures than trump did, and for longer than trump recommended, so for people that think Desantis is the second coming of Jesus to go hard on criticizing Trump....there's some major mental illness on display.

Desantis became a figurehead by molding himself into Trump 2.0. That's the only reason he has any notoriety at all. If you like him better than Trump I can understand that, but when you attack Trump for chit desantis did himself you just come off looking like a retard.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
You're missing the point entirely. You're also accusing me of rewriting history in saying Desantis locked down for a month. How is that inaccurate?

Try to get sober before responding
Then you failed to convey your point.

Nor did I say that stating a fact that Desantis had a 1-month lockdown is rewriting history. It's the clear implication that lockdowns were a major part of his time as Governor, when it was actually minimal - especially when compared to most other states.
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Yeah Stizzel this is full retard.

Florida, a state with one of the oldest populations, handled the pandemic better than pretty much anyone.

Pretty much all States were on board with the first 2 weeks with most people still sort of on board for the 2 week extension the feds pushed.

Once that was over there were only a few states that said piss off we are done and Florida was one of them. Trump praised Florida for this. You can't call DeSantis lockdown without doing the same to Trump.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
Trump asked people to stay home for two weeks to stop the spread but never tried to mandate it.
How would the US President mandate a nationwide lockdown?
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
How would the US President mandate a nationwide lockdown?
Stranger things have happened. He didn't even try but a president overstepping his powers is hardly outside the realm of possibility these days. IMO, Trump wasn't ever going to do that, he'd been crucified by both sides and still blamed personally for every death, there'd been no upside.
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Originally Posted By Fishman15⏩
So you probably agreed with Trump's foreign policy then too? Can you admit that Dr. Phil?
Ron Paul wouldn't continue a drone program and even shield the public from the reporting of drone casualties. Next.
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Originally Posted By nutsy54⏩
Then you failed to convey your point.

Nor did I say that stating a fact that Desantis had a 1-month lockdown is rewriting history. It's the clear implication that lockdowns were a major part of his time as Governor, when it was actually minimal - especially when compared to most other states.
I think you should read the opie again as slowly as you need to because I'm clearly talking about a double standard from desantis supporters. Trump recommended people stay at home for two weeks, Desantis locked the entire state down for a month. It's not logically possible to say Trump went over the top with his covidrecomendationbut desantis' actions were perfectly reasonable.
Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
Yeah Stizzel this is full retard.

Florida, a state with one of the oldest populations, handled the pandemic better than pretty much anyone.

Pretty much all States were on board with the first 2 weeks with most people still sort of on board for the 2 week extension the feds pushed.

Once that was over there were only a few states that said piss off we are done and Florida was one of them. Trump praised Florida for this. You can't call DeSantis lockdown without doing the same to Trump.
That's not the point, but even so, if you compare Desantis to other red states he was middling at best. 7 of them did not lock down at all.

I'm not sure why having an elderly population means young healthy people have to be locked in their homes. We can only assume Desantis realized how ridiculous that is when he finally lifted the lockdown despite covid being just as dangerous then as it was when he began the lockdown.
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Remember when counties in florida had to beg lord desantis for permission to open

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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
I think you should read the opie again as slowly as you need to because I'm clearly talking about a double standard from desantis supporters. Trump recommended people stay at home for two weeks, Desantis locked the entire state down for a month. It's not logically possible to say Trump went over the top with his covidrecomendationbut desantis' actions were perfectly reasonable.

That's not the point, but even so, if you compare Desantis to other red states he was middling at best. 7 of them did not lock down at all.

I'm not sure why having an elderly population means young healthy people have to be locked in their homes. We can only assume Desantis realized how ridiculous that is when he finally lifted the lockdown despite covid being just as dangerous then as it was when he began the lockdown.
The facts don't bare out to your narrative... Yes he loses to those few states that didn't lock down at all (though I don't blame anyone for the 2 weeks to flatten the curve idea).

However, his state was MOSTLY open in which is tied for 3rd in terms of states that locked down. With Alaska and Montana being the ones that beat them.

His state was also one of the first to fully open up banning country and local ordinances.

The age of his voters matter because he is a representative of his voters... which happened to be the most at risk in the country. To overcome the fear of such risk and still be in the top 20% of states is solid.

It is true it was just as risky... but we didn't know what that risk was when it started. Public health response should be much different for a disease that kills 4% of all who contract it vs something that kills 1% consisting of those already within a couple of years of death.

Details matter. The time line matters.

Being one of the best with one of the hardest demographics is a good response and your attempt to categorize it as middling at best is disingenuous.
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lockdown don threw a fit when kemp and desantis said nope times up.

OP agrees with lockdown don that killer cuomo did a better job fking lmao.


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Stizzel trying to rewrite history and failing.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
The facts don't bare out to your narrative... Yes he loses to those few states that didn't lock down at all (though I don't blame anyone for the 2 weeks to flatten the curve idea).

However, his state was MOSTLY open in which is tied for 3rd in terms of states that locked down. With Alaska and Montana being the ones that beat them.

His state was also one of the first to fully open up banning country and local ordinances.

The age of his voters matter because he is a representative of his voters... which happened to be the most at risk in the country. To overcome the fear of such risk and still be in the top 20% of states is solid.

It is true it was just as risky... but we didn't know what that risk was when it started. Public health response should be much different for a disease that kills 4% of all who contract it vs something that kills 1% consisting of those already within a couple of years of death.

Details matter. The time line matters.

Being one of the best with one of the hardest demographics is a good response and your attempt to categorize it as middling at best is disingenuous.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
The facts don't bare out to your narrative... Yes he loses to those few states that didn't lock down at all (though I don't blame anyone for the 2 weeks to flatten the curve idea).

However, his state was MOSTLY open in which is tied for 3rd in terms of states that locked down. With Alaska and Montana being the ones that beat them.

His state was also one of the first to fully open up banning country and local ordinances.

The age of his voters matter because he is a representative of his voters... which happened to be the most at risk in the country. To overcome the fear of such risk and still be in the top 20% of states is solid.

It is true it was just as risky... but we didn't know what that risk was when it started. Public health response should be much different for a disease that kills 4% of all who contract it vs something that kills 1% consisting of those already within a couple of years of death.

Details matter. The time line matters.

Being one of the best with one of the hardest demographics is a good response and your attempt to categorize it as middling at best is disingenuous.
What do you think my 'narrative' is? I'm saying that if you criticize Trump for recommending a two week lockdown you don't get to then praise Desantis for a 6 week lockdown and not come off as a retard.

Thataside, if you compare Desantis to all states he was pretty fantastic, but in terms of red states exclusively he's still pretty good, but not amazing.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
What do you think my 'narrative' is? I'm saying that if you criticize Trump for recommending a two week lockdown you don't get to then praise Desantis for a 6 week lockdown and not come off as a retard.

Thataside, if you compare Desantis to all states he was pretty fantastic, but in terms of red states exclusively he's still pretty good, but not amazing.
I can live with this statement. I still think you are underselling his response given the demographics of his state, but "pretty good" is fair enough.

Desantis was a little ahead of Trump when it came to opening back up, but I would say "criticizing one and praising the other for the response is retarded" is legit.

The "Narrative" whether you intended to or not was linking stories that showed Ron did a poor job opening back up (As Trump is claiming).

Truth be told Trump was a step or two behind Ron when it came to opening things back up.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
What do you think my 'narrative' is? I'm saying that if you criticize Trump for recommending a two week lockdown you don't get to then praise Desantis for a 6 week lockdown and not come off as a retard.

Thataside, if you compare Desantis to all states he was pretty fantastic, but in terms of red states exclusively he's still pretty good, but not amazing.
Your narrative is that anything right-wing is bad, and that right-wingers can't even agree on something like this, whereas there was total solidarity on the left about making sure everybody was jailed at home.
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Originally Posted By Austanian⏩
I can live with this statement. I still think you are underselling his response given the demographics of his state, but "pretty good" is fair enough.

Desantis was a little ahead of Trump when it came to opening back up, but I would say "criticizing one and praising the other for the response is retarded" is legit.

The "Narrative" whether you intended to or not was linking stories that showed Ron did a poor job opening back up (As Trump is claiming).

Truth be told Trump was a step or two behind Ron when it came to opening things back up.
My perception living in Florida was that the month lockdown flew by. I feel like I spent years hearing about communist chithole states were fully locked down and talking chit about Desantis because people here could go to the beach....meanwhile groomers like pat were coming here for vacation despite their tears.

It's all relative though and the point does have to be made, he chose to lock down for a while and I'm fundamentally opposed to that. I'm not going to hate on him for it but we can't act like it didn't happen.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel⏩
My perception living in Florida was that the month lockdown flew by. I feel like I spent years hearing about communist chithole states were fully locked down and talking chit about Desantis because people here could go to the beach....meanwhile groomers like pat were coming here for vacation despite their tears.

It's all relative though and the point does have to be made, he chose to lock down for a while and I'm fundamentally opposed to that. I'm not going to hate on him for it but we can't act like it didn't happen.
Which is fair... "Lockdown Ron" is not.

You don't get to just compare things to "Ideal". You have to compare it to best available given the constraints.

I know how I would have dealt with it if I was the dictator of the US at the time. However, none of the options placed me in charge... So I have to go with my best choice of these available.
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