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post 1684876093 06-19-2023, 01:35 AM
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libs are driving the country and have been for a long time. conservatives will adopt any and everything over time because they have no real concrete beliefs.

"Live and let live. No government interference. It doesn't bother me and I don't want to be bothered. Etc" - a losers way of life.
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Originally Posted By Latinowarrior3
libs are driving the country and have been for a long time. conservatives will adopt any and everything over time because they have no real concrete beliefs.

"Live and let live. No government interference. It doesn't bother me and I don't want to be bothered. Etc" - a losers way of life.
That isn't conservative though, that is more like libertarian or liberal in the social aspect. Conservatives have been huge advocates of government interference in people's personal lives for all of history.

But that old boomer conservatism is dying out. The nature of society is that if will always change over time, conservatism can somewhat limit the rate of change but nothing more.
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Originally Posted By isingmodel
That isn't conservative though, that is more like libertarian or liberal in the social aspect. Conservatives have been huge advocates of government interference in people's personal lives for all of history.

But that old boomer conservatism is dying out. The nature of society is that if will always change over time, conservatism can somewhat limit the rate of change but nothing more.
At a certain point there maybe a correction tho. Berlin under the Weimar Republic was much like the US today. Degenerate behavior everywhere, drag shows, transgederism. Books and art promoting that kind of behavior.

In the West we're living in a culture where birth rates are below replacement level and population stability is dependent on immigration and foreigners. That's literally a suicidal society.
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I think people are sick to death over the GOP's stupid culture wars.


They'll just find a new minority to target. Most likely the non-binary, or whomever has defined their sexuality beyond the common definitions, like demi or pansexual.


These things are new and of course, it is simple AF to get paranoid conservatives to have angry knee jerk reactions to the new and unfamiliar. There's lots of division in those communities and there's unclear messaging to take advantage of, and it poses a clear risk to conservative's need for hierarchy.


Look out for hatred at some new group. It could also be animal activists or lab grown meats, or something of the sort.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
post 1684878263 06-19-2023, 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
I think people are sick to death over the GOP's stupid culture wars.


They'll just find a new minority to target. Most likely the non-binary, or whomever has defined their sexuality beyond the common definitions, like demi or pansexual.


These things are new and of course, it is simple AF to get paranoid conservatives to have angry knee jerk reactions to the new and unfamiliar. There's lots of division in those communities and there's unclear messaging to take advantage of, and it poses a clear risk to conservative's need for hierarchy.


Look out for hatred at some new group. It could also be animal activists or lab grown meats, or something of the sort.
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post 1684878363 06-19-2023, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
I think people are sick to death over the GOP's stupid culture wars.


They'll just find a new minority to target. Most likely the non-binary, or whomever has defined their sexuality beyond the common definitions, like demi or pansexual.


These things are new and of course, it is simple AF to get paranoid conservatives to have angry knee jerk reactions to the new and unfamiliar. There's lots of division in those communities and there's unclear messaging to take advantage of, and it poses a clear risk to conservative's need for hierarchy.


Look out for hatred at some new group. It could also be animal activists or lab grown meats, or something of the sort.
The real tragedy is how minority groups are caught in the crossfire over these types of political conflicts. Look at Russia as an example. In an effort to oppose the west, Russia is now considering revamping its transgender laws, which were once among the most liberal on Earth to ban gender affirming care. This is how minorities get used as political pawns and destroyed.
post 1684878403 06-19-2023, 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Putinist
The real tragedy is how minority groups are caught in the crossfire over these types of political conflicts. Look at Russia as an example. In an effort to oppose the west, Russia is now considering revamping its transgender laws, which were once among the most liberal on Earth to ban gender affirming care. This is how minorities get used as political pawns and destroyed.
are transitioning or trying to?
post 1684878423 06-19-2023, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
are transitioning or trying to?
I've already transitioned into a commie. Had my political affirming care and read Stalin's short course the other day.

Maybe we can hang out and transition to supreme together buddy.
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Originally Posted By Putinist
I've already transitioned into a commie. Had my political affirming care and read Stalin's short course the other day.
can you stay on topic?

for the record, are you seeking gender affirming care?
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
can you stay on topic?

for the record, are you seeking gender affirming care?
No. Are you? You seem pretty dickless to me.
post 1684878543 06-19-2023, 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted By Putinist
No. Are you? You seem pretty dickless to me.
what are you, 12?
post 1684878573 06-19-2023, 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
what are you, 12?
Yes. I am 12 years old.
post 1684878603 06-19-2023, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted By Putinist
Yes. I am 12 years old.
it would explain a lot of your world views and behavior
post 1684880513 06-19-2023, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted By Bodhy
I think people are sick to death over the GOP's stupid culture wars.


They'll just find a new minority to target. Most likely the non-binary, or whomever has defined their sexuality beyond the common definitions, like demi or pansexual.


These things are new and of course, it is simple AF to get paranoid conservatives to have angry knee jerk reactions to the new and unfamiliar. There's lots of division in those communities and there's unclear messaging to take advantage of, and it poses a clear risk to conservative's need for hierarchy.


Look out for hatred at some new group. It could also be animal activists or lab grown meats, or something of the sort.
So who really is starting the culture wars? JFC you are so fuัking stupid.
post 1684880753 06-19-2023, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted By gwg77
So who really is starting the culture wars? JFC you are so fuัking stupid.
It's crazy how dishonest they are and how they try to "gaslight".
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Originally Posted By Polaris
It's crazy how dishonest they are and how they try to "gaslight".
Amazing, isn't it?

They basically have this mentality, where they believe they can upend our culture overnight, and if we pushback, we are the bad guys.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
it would explain a lot of your world views and behavior
kay
post 1684881223 06-19-2023, 05:46 AM
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I like the part how these two dopes didn't realize I am speaking of the GOP wanting to rile up paranoid conservatives into anger over something new and unfamiliar.


"There's unclear messaging to take advantage of...."


^^^. If these new demi and pansexual outgroups suffer from unclear messaging, who will be the ones to take advantage of that, I wonder?


Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By gwg77
Amazing, isn't it?

They basically have this mentality, where they believe they can upend our culture overnight, and if we pushback, we are the bad guys.
You are the bad guys because you are oppressing and demonizing an entire group of people for chit completely out of their control.
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Originally Posted By Putinist
You are the bad guys because you are oppressing and demonizing an entire group of people for chit completely out of their control.
odd way to describe protecting children
post 1684881623 06-19-2023, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
odd way to describe protecting children
Trans kids do not choose to be trans retard. They just are. You are not protecting them.
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Originally Posted By Putinist
Trans kids do not choose to be trans retard. They just are.
never argued that
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
never argued that
So how are you protecting trans kids by denying them gender affirming care and demonizing trans people?
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I'm going to put some unsolicted advice out there, and honestly I don't mean anybody harm with this... recognize a losing battle when you see one.

Let's say you don't like trans people and think whatever about them is harming society in whatever way. I'm not even debating it, let's just set that aside for a minute. You believe that, okay fine, you believe it. I'll meet you there...

If you'reactuallyupset trans people are being accepted, take a good look at your side and identify any serious, sustained progress you've made on this issue. It doesn't exist. Look at what DeSantis is doing in Florida, is that working out for him on a national level? How's it playing out in federal courts? Don't yell at the messenger homie, you know what the answer is.

And the children thing, no one is really buying that either. That was used to argue against gay rights a few decades ago and didn't work. It was used to argue against interracial stuff a few more decades ago and it didn't work. A couple crusty irrelevant nazis on internet forums will agree with you and that's it. The young generation will laugh at you.

Again, speaking objectively here, it's a big waste of your time. Some people are trans, some are your neighbors and family, it is what it is.

This is being used to distract you from the fact that neither side will advocate for you, the working class. Wages are still going down. Cost of everything is still going up. That's the final price of the car the salesperson is taught to never discuss. It's divide and conquer.
No war but class war
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
odd way to describe protecting children
You're just a stupid, backwards, intolerant bigot!












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Originally Posted By Putinist
So how are you protecting trans kids by denying them gender affirming care and demonizing trans people?
I never demonized trans people. I have said that some are pushing an agenda that is hurting people.

Gender affirming care that includes surgery, hormone treatment, and physically altering devices like chest binders should not be utilized on children.
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Originally Posted By squanto
I'm going to put some unsolicted advice out there, and honestly I don't mean anybody harm with this... recognize a losing battle when you see one.

Let's say you don't like trans people and think whatever about them is harming society in whatever way. I'm not even debating it, let's just set that aside for a minute. You believe that, okay fine....

If you'reactuallyupset trans people are being accepted, take a good look at your side and identify any serious, sustained progress you've made on this issue. It doesn't exist. Look at what DeSantis is doing in Florida, is that working out for him on a national level? How's it playing out in federal courts? Don't yell at the messenger homie, you know what the answer is.

And the children thing, no one is really buying that either. That was used to argue against gay rights a few decades ago and didn't work. It was used to argue against interracial stuff a few years ago and it didn't work. A couple crusty irrelevant nazis on internet forums will agree with you and that's it. The young generation will laugh at you.

Again, speaking objectively here, it's a big waste of your time. Some people are trans, some are your neighbors and family, it is what it is.

This is being used to distract you from the fact that neither side will advocate for you, the working class. Wages are still going down. Cost of everything is still going up. That's the final price of the car the salesperson is taught to never discuss. It's divide and conquer.


das it mane
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Originally Posted By squanto
I'm going to put some unsolicted advice out there, and honestly I don't mean anybody harm with this... recognize a losing battle when you see one.

Let's say you don't like trans people and think whatever about them is harming society in whatever way. I'm not even debating it, let's just set that aside for a minute. You believe that, okay fine, you believe it. I'll meet you there...

If you'reactuallyupset trans people are being accepted, take a good look at your side and identify any serious, sustained progress you've made on this issue. It doesn't exist. Look at what DeSantis is doing in Florida, is that working out for him on a national level? How's it playing out in federal courts? Don't yell at the messenger homie, you know what the answer is.

And the children thing, no one is really buying that either. That was used to argue against gay rights a few decades ago and didn't work. It was used to argue against interracial stuff a few more decades ago and it didn't work. A couple crusty irrelevant nazis on internet forums will agree with you and that's it. The young generation will laugh at you.

Again, speaking objectively here, it's a big waste of your time. Some people are trans, some are your neighbors and family, it is what it is.

This is being used to distract you from the fact that neither side will advocate for you, the working class. Wages are still going down. Cost of everything is still going up. That's the final price of the car the salesperson is taught to never discuss. It's divide and conquer.
who do you think is advocating all that?
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Originally Posted By Polaris
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Dishonest argument. Some of those are chopped or taken out of context. And regardless, I could find you tons of pics of questionable religious conservative perverts around kids. This is not an argument. You are using these cases to marginalize and demonize a minority group.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33
I never demonized trans people. I have said that some are pushing an agenda that is hurting people.

Gender affirming care that includes surgery, hormone treatment, and physically altering devices like chest binders should not be utilized on children.
Need to be 18 to vote or buy tobacco, 21 to buy alcohol, but...no age limit on a massively life altering "transition" that can involve puberty blockers and mutilation.
Originally Posted By Putinist
Dishonest argument. Some of those are chopped or taken out of context. And regardless, I could find you tons of pics of questionable religious conservative perverts around kids. This is not an argument. You are using these cases to marginalize and demonize a minority group.
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