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Thread: How the fook is Russia shellacking Ukraine with the 100's of billions from the west?

post 1688282093 08-13-2023, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
no way we're ever going to solve our debt. ever. so it's a moot point.

that's like spritzing some water over a burning building.



either money goes to military companies, owners of these companies, workers of these companies, and back into the economy, have it weaken our enemies, strengthen our allies OR you can have some guy spend it on alcohol, cigarettes, and loto tickets.



which would you pick?
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post 1688282163 08-13-2023, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
$1.2trillion was committed to various infrastructure initiatives in 2021 via the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act

The money given to Ukraine is a pittance compared to the values actually required to make a difference in a country the size of the US.
Not really. The money is being wasted in Green Infrastructure projects that are going to fail, and make people poorer.

Also, I see you're a beavercel.

Just lol.
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post 1688282183 08-13-2023, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
There are about three hundred thousand Ukrainians in the ground right now because we pushed them into a war they can't win. Such humanitarians.

Incorrect.
a war they cant win? didnt nazi russia say the war will be over in a week? isnt nazi russia "supposedly" a global power? yet theyve been losing this war bad ... like really bad... imagine a country as big as texas vs russia and china ... and yet the later are struggling



I've been calling them out and have been against giving them aid for years. Israeli espionage against the united states is incredible and only rivaled by China.
the problem isnt with the funding.... people like you are crying because your a minimum wagecell.....you think if you were doing $150k+ you would even care if we send all this money to ukraine.... i assure you ... you wouldnt.... but people like you have this weird expectation that if all these billions didnt go to ukraine they would be going to the american lower class... it wont


ive been seeing and hearing this rant on ukraine by everyone on hourly bases... yet a few voices here and there for israel... again .. the funding will keep on going .... not to beat nazi russia... just to humiliate them .. to show them that all the R&D they have put on their military is worth jack sh!t lol
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post 1688282453 08-13-2023, 11:56 AM
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post 1688287013 08-13-2023, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
great argument
Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
So you're okay with wasting hundreds of thousands of men for our own selfish purposes? Only sociopaths could think that's okay. Not to mention all the young men that they are forcing to fight with no training who arent Azovs. Such compassion.
how is it wasting? they got attacked, they want to fight and die for their country, we are simply making use of that fact.

do you think the life you live today came from nothing? if we played nice and really cared about the value of a non-american human life, we'd be no where. these things come at a cost and a sacrifice. most are too sheltered to realize this.


whatever they want to do over in ukistan is their business. but if they are fighting an enemy, why not support them? it's in everyone's interests
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post 1688287643 08-13-2023, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
great argument





how is it wasting? they got attacked, they want to fight and die for their country, we are simply making use of that fact.

do you think the life you live today came from nothing? if we played nice and really cared about the value of a non-american human life, we'd be no where. these things come at a cost and a sacrifice. most are too sheltered to realize this.


whatever they want to do over in ukistan is their business. but if they are fighting an enemy, why not support them? it's in everyone's interests
I hate to say it, bro.

I've read every single on of your posts.

And you are trying to debate with people that are way more informed than you.

I get you're trying your best, but you just don't understand this stuff enough to participate in the discussion.
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post 1688287743 08-13-2023, 01:58 PM
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Russia is fighting the entire western world in a way
Would kick em in the nuts
post 1688287893 08-13-2023, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
I hate to say it, bro.

I've read every single on of your posts.

And you are trying to debate with people that are way more informed than you.

I get you're trying your best, but you just don't understand this stuff enough to participate in the discussion.
sorry mr. cnn/nbc/CIA, i didn't realize the world was so one-dimensional. thank you for your informed analysis on the situation.

thank you for clarifying that money put into the ukraine war is useless entirely unless ukraine completely dominates and takes the fight directly to moscow. no way there is any benefit or gain to stimulate the economy, occupy an enemy, deplete enemy resources, test weaponry and tactics, convey strength on the global landscape, and ensure that a greater foe in china cannot easily rely on an occupied ally.


yup. if ukraine isn't winning, the money is completely wasted.
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post 1688289843 08-13-2023, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Not really. The money is being wasted in Green Infrastructure projects that are going to fail, and make people poorer.

Also, I see you're a beavercel.

Just lol.
these people are retarded.

" welp the $5,000 we have saved won't be enough to pay for timmy's college fund anyways my dear wife so we might as well donate it charity!"

This is the logic these people are using. Who the **** thinks/acts like that? No matter how much money is required to fix our countries problems, it's irrelevant to the FACT that money spent on Zelensky could very well be spent in the USA. Maybe a new bridge or subway system? Maybe some housing for the countless homeless?

Maybe reinvigorating one of the hundreds of dilapidated cities?
post 1688290513 08-13-2023, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
these people are retarded.

" welp the $5,000 we have saved won't be enough to pay for timmy's college fund anyways my dear wife so we might as well donate it charity!"

This is the logic these people are using. Who the **** thinks/acts like that? No matter how much money is required to fix our countries problems, it's irrelevant to the FACT that money spent on Zelensky could very well be spent in the USA. Maybe a new bridge or subway system? Maybe some housing for the countless homeless?

Maybe reinvigorating one of the hundreds of dilapidated cities?
I honestly think the average miscer is more intelligent than the regular person, but getting into the heads of some of these people really shines a light.

Especially with these people who think bankrupting the country on losing imperialist conquests.

We just lost trillions in Afghanistan. The DoD can't account for over 20 trillion on its audit.

And people are still supporting these wars that only benefit military contractors so they can charge 300 bucks to do a bag of laundry.

When I learned about Halliburton my jaw literally dropped.

And people still support it.
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