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post 1688420043 08-15-2023, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Nah, it was a shell game with temporary cuts for the middle class while Trump and his buddies got MASSIVE permanent breaks. We've been through all this.

And Trump "lost" money because everything he owns is brand driven. And like a true dumb fuk.. he ruined his brand while running this country into the ground.

Trump is getting everything he deserves. He did this to himself.
So it’s better to keep taxes in companies sky high to encourage them to all leave to cheap foreign countries? That helps our middle class and economy?

Just pay more in taxes to the govt… who have proven to be ever do anything efficiently? So we can have a big money laundering scheme under the guise of foreign aid?
post 1688420173 08-15-2023, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted By GuineaDago585
I mean... look around. This country is in shambles. Cities that were safe 3 years ago are crime ridden cesspools, criminals not being held accountable, our tax dollars are getting shipped to Ukraine while real wages plummet and Americans cash out their 401(k)s just to survive, inflation has wiped out the middle class, nobody 30 or younger will ever be able to afford to buy a home. It's a fkin disaster and there are 17 months left with this a$$hole in office. I can't even imagine how bad another 4 years would be...
Let's break this down. Crime rose in cities in 2020. The dollars we send to Ukraine are a drop in the bucket of our foreign aid and we've seen Russia be shown to be a 3rd world chithole. Great ROI. Americans are no longer getting Trump bucks and they're still spending, that's on them. Are you saying they can't find jobs? Explain how Biden created inflation when Trump spent $3.8T on covid in 2020 and added $8T to the debt. Joe's covid stimulus hadn't spent a dime when inflation exploded. Housing cost started to explode in 2020 boyo.

All Biden has done is take the disaster that Trump left and fixed it. Trumpflation down, housing cost increases down bigly, interest rates back to normal levels, lowest unemployment ever, much much less added to the debt, etc.

You sir are a liar.
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post 1688420253 08-15-2023, 05:25 PM
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Inb4 he suicides under highly suspicious circumstances in prison.
post 1688420513 08-15-2023, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
How is this? Can you explain which charges you believe are illegitimate and what evidence the prosecution/defense will bring?
There is no evidence. They're throwing anything they can to keep Trump in the news to smear him. It's pretty obvious.
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post 1688420843 08-15-2023, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
It's really both parties since Republicans are sitting on their hands about it. Trump should threaten to primary Congressmen in every single state, maybe even get MAGA maniacs to boycott voting for them if they don't atleast look like they are doing something about the abuses.
what else do you suggest the Congress does?
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post 1688421623 08-15-2023, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
Washington doesn't discriminate if you play their game, we can see that with the wide variety of degenerates they absorb. So why would he have a change of heart and cause himself and his family so much distress if he was out for personal gain and doesn't care about Americans?
TBH, saying he doesn't give a fuk was too strong. I don't think Trump hates America. I don't think he's sacrificing himself on the cross for the flock either. Maybe at best it's 60/40 himself over the country.

I also don't think any of this is causing him any distress, his current situation slots right in with his standard operating procedure over his entire life, and I suspect he thought this was all part of his "art of the deal" or some such nonsense.
post 1688421663 08-15-2023, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted By rampagefc77
So it’s better to keep taxes in companies sky high to encourage them to all leave to cheap foreign countries? That helps our middle class and economy?

Just pay more in taxes to the govt… who have proven to be ever do anything efficiently? So we can have a big money laundering scheme under the guise of foreign aid?
Those massive tax cuts caused hundreds of billions of yearly budget deficits.. EVERY YEAR from now on.

I'll take my chances with taxing businesses vs the debt we're all forced to take while they sit on their billions. Btw, what was the corporate tax rate in the 50s?.. and how did this country do under those taxes?

And what's with all the accusations lately that money going to Ukraine is getting laundered? Just another made up right wing CT?
post 1688421763 08-15-2023, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie
Let's break this down. Crime rose in cities in 2020. The dollars we send to Ukraine are a drop in the bucket of our foreign aid and we've seen Russia be shown to be a 3rd world chithole. Great ROI. Americans are no longer getting Trump bucks and they're still spending, that's on them. Are you saying they can't find jobs? Explain how Biden created inflation when Trump spent $3.8T on covid in 2020 and added $8T to the debt. Joe's covid stimulus hadn't spent a dime when inflation exploded. Housing cost started to explode in 2020 boyo.

All Biden has done is take the disaster that Trump left and fixed it. Trumpflation down, housing cost increases down bigly, interest rates back to normal levels, lowest unemployment ever, much much less added to the debt, etc.

You sir are a liar.
Can you imagine if Trump took office for the first time in 2020 instead of what Obama left him? Can't even imagine the train wreck we'd be in right now. Then again, a Dem would have handled the pandemic correctly and it would have been a lot better than what Biden had to deal with.
post 1688422053 08-15-2023, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
There is no evidence. They're throwing anything they can to keep Trump in the news to smear him. It's pretty obvious.
I guarantee there is evidence. This will be one of the highest profile case/s of this century. No DA is going into that for shts and giggles. The fact you can say that with a straight face before it’s presented to us and after a grand jury gave the green light just goes to show the kind of make believe reality so many Trumpers live in.
post 1688422563 08-15-2023, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat
And Trump "lost" money because everything he owns is brand driven. And like a true dumb fuk.. he ruined his brand...
While one of the top 100 most visible companies, Trumpco's brand reputation is last among them. Worse than the companies like Budweiser and Disney that people love to hate on around here.

https://theharrispoll.com/partners/m...arrispoll-100/

Can't imagine the Trump kids will be proud to carry on the family business that's forever tied to payoffs to porn actors, pussy grabbing, and 40,000 retarded social media posts. I'd wager as soon as the old man dies there will be a race to sell it all off.
post 1688423383 08-15-2023, 06:31 PM
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Trumps gonna get a guilty on this unless he gets a jury nullification.


The law here on his charges has a pretty broad scope- more than Fed Rico laws- and from what I can tell- Trumps guilty.

Kemp can't pardon either - it will take the board of parole and pardons here.


My guess:

1. Most of Jack Smiths charges don't stick- some will, but scotus will overturn- which will also result in a few long-term acts of Congress been deemed unconstitutional- they will be ground breaking overturns, and needed for a long time.


2. Trump is dead guilty on some Georgia charges, and has to hope for a jury to help him.
post 1688425133 08-15-2023, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
There is no evidence. They're throwing anything they can to keep Trump in the news to smear him. It's pretty obvious.
Yes, they're going into a massively high profile case with no evidence. Smart thinking Clive. You're the perfect example of a psuedo-intellectual retard.
post 1688425333 08-15-2023, 07:09 PM
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After all those years of preaching about locking Hillary up, he’s the one getting hemmed up lmao
post 1688426383 08-15-2023, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa
After all those years of preaching about locking Hillary up, he’s the one getting hemmed up lmao
His big mistake was literally 48 hours after he was elected backing off from going after her for crimes she literally admitted to on camera. His weakness was evident right there and while he was probably trying to bring everyone back together and make things less contentious, it was the wrong move.
post 1688426653 08-15-2023, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
Trump didn’t do sht about the establishment, he doesn’t care about you and he doesn’t care about the rules and transitions of this country.

Republicans that are turning against him aren’t some secret democrats or whatever - they are scared of him because he’s dangerous and destroys everyone in his orbit (except the kids that tow his line).
You mean he’s the one guy who advocated for term limits for both parties on congress and senate?

I’d be scared too if the guy was gonna ruin my gravy train.
Truth is out there
post 1688426963 08-15-2023, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Foxmulder0
You mean he’s the one guy who advocated for term limits for both parties on congress and senate?

I’d be scared too if the guy was gonna ruin my gravy train.
Lol at thinking he actually meant it. Why didn't he push harder for it? That's right, because it wouldn't happen. Him mentioning it means jack ****. It's just so simpletons like yourself would parrot exactly what you just said.
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Originally Posted By gachase21
and has to hope for a jury to help him.
They'll only put anti Trumpers on the jury. It's a rigged case from the jump. Just like it was a rigged election.

I just hope the ramifications of this bs absolutely backfires on them immensely bringing it all down. We need to rebuild from the ground up. Maybe it'll be the catalyst.
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Georgia judge is daughter of black panther and part of the black nationalist extremist movement. Why is Georgia important? Because their state laws are broad and easily manipulated to create the agenda they need.

The issue here is that these judges and states are no longer abiding by their original constitutions, similar to how any extremist simply ignores the constitution

A state's constitution can't override the US constitution, but that's exactly what's happening.

The fallout of all of this will be unpredictable, unintended, and very dangerous. This is what extremists do though. They never consider the cost
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post 1688428963 08-15-2023, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
Then why doesn't he make it easy on himself and indulge in the status quo political profiteering that the rest of Washington engages in by being on the same team as them?

Genuinely curious.
He does.
https://www.opensecrets.org/trump/trump-properties
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Originally Posted By NYPat
He did. He signed a massive tax break bill for himself and his rich buddies and corporations.
Not to mention that. And China trademarks for his daughter, huge bailouts from the kingdom for his son in law, all kinds of profiteering from day 1 for him and his family. Even had the secret service paying ridiculous amounts to have the honor of serving him.
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
Don’t think you understand what profiteering is.

It’s unethical strategies to make money, like influence peddling and insider trading. Refusing to sever ties from businesses you already own is not profiteering, regardless what the leftist media tells you.

Leftists are mad that their favorite candidates are all breaking the law, so they have to stretch or even make it up as they go to get Trump.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
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post 1688430053 08-15-2023, 08:31 PM
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Is this the latest thing leftists are gonna jerk off too only to be let down for like the 10th time?
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Originally Posted By Kraken
Georgia judge is daughter of black panther and part of the black nationalist extremist movement. Why is Georgia important? Because their state laws are broad and easily manipulated to create the agenda they need.

The issue here is that these judges and states are no longer abiding by their original constitutions, similar to how any extremist simply ignores the constitution

A state's constitution can't override the US constitution, but that's exactly what's happening.

The fallout of all of this will be unpredictable, unintended, and very dangerous. This is what extremists do though. They never consider the cost
If there is proof she is related to a black panther everyone should understand the level of bias she possesses
Truth is out there
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Originally Posted By Kraken
Don’t think you understand what profiteering is.

It’s unethical strategies to make money, like influence peddling and insider trading. Refusing to sever ties from businesses you already own is not profiteering, regardless what the leftist media tells you.

Leftists are mad that their favorite candidates are all breaking the law, so they have to stretch or even make it up as they go to get Trump.
Is it profiteering to have all the people who want to influence you pay exorbitant fees to stay at your hotels?

Trump severed no business ties. He was in direct position to profiteer while President and that's exactly what he did.
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
Is it profiteering to have all the people who want to influence you pay exorbitant fees to stay at your hotels?

Trump severed no business ties. He was in direct position to profiteer while President and that's exactly what he did.
You are using backwards logic. I’m not sure you’re capable of actual logical reasoning or understanding this simple concept.
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne
Is it profiteering to have all the people who want to influence you pay exorbitant fees to stay at your hotels?

Trump severed no business ties. He was in direct position to profiteer while President and that's exactly what he did.
Yeah, well, what about Hunter?!?! That's right you stupid fcking lib!
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Originally Posted By Kraken
Georgia judge is daughter of black panther and part of the black nationalist extremist movement.
The judge is a man, Scott McAfee.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro
The judge is a man, Scott McAfee.
LOL! These retards will believe anything they read if it affirms their beliefs. Lol at Kraken.
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Originally Posted By Derplington
Yes, they're going into a massively high profile case with no evidence. Smart thinking Clive. You're the perfect example of a psuedo-intellectual retard.
Show me the evidence, genius. Lmao
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Originally Posted By Kraken
Don’t think you understand what profiteering is.

It’s unethical strategies to make money, like influence peddling and insider trading. Refusing to sever ties from businesses you already own is not profiteering, regardless what the leftist media tells you.

Leftists are mad that their favorite candidates are all breaking the law, so they have to stretch or even make it up as they go to get Trump.
Having business ties around the world as you become - probably - the most powerful person in the world qualifies you for all those things. The fact is a DA brought a case that will make or break her career and she didn’t do it without thinking she could win. A grand jury signed off on it and now it will go to a jury.

And please, don’t just go “but but Biden” - if you think they are worth investigation Trump obviously is as well.
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