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post 1688891703 08-24-2023, 12:16 PM
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post 1688891843 08-24-2023, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
right - 90% of men do not fall into beta category on those
Well that is where he chose to draw the line re: High Value Males.

Where would you draw it? Top 20%?

I think that people pushing marriage and children later into life certainly effects expectations. When people marry young there is a downside to that, but in most cases you are young and broke together hopefully working towards older and richer...or at least less broke.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
SMV for women steadily declines from 21 until mid twenties, the decline accelerating until 30, at which point it nosedives.

That's just brutal facts.
It's sad but true.

They go from bikinis, to one piece swimsuits so quickly.
post 1688892543 08-24-2023, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Wayne
Howey Katya....

Some interesting cliffs.

My perceptions in this context?
The nuclear family has been taking a long, slow nose dive for some time.
Add social media to the dating (hook up) plate along with western women highly over valuing their SMV and their personal accolades I don't see it changing any time soon.
I'd like to be wrong on that perception.

I don't have a dog in this fight but society is going to do what society is going to do.
If I were a young man today I just wouldn't play the game and just remain the Lone Wolf for many legit reasons.
It's a shame, actually.

Back to it....
The one change he points at as a potential game changer would be for women to start making offers to men. IOW for women to stop passively waiting for a man to initiate relationships and to instead make relationship offers.

I'm not sure how this would work out. Seems like pushing women to be increasingly masculine on the surface of it.
Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Way too low IMO, id go as high as 50% srs.I expect in 2030 and beyond for half of marriage age women to be completely single.Same for men of course.


Also, all the stats about women that do lower their standards and settle with the beta, gotta have in mind the type of dynamic that this situation brings into the relationship. Tl;dr, you dont wanna be the beta guy that a woman "settles" for, that comes with so many gotdamn problems that it is simply not worth it. When beta males realize this, IMO thats when it will result in an over 50% of people being completely single.


I expect also open and normal poly relationships after 2030.Just one guy in a relationship with 2 or more women, openly, everyone knowing whats up.
Well we know that marriage has been trending downward [see: 25% of 40 year olds being single/never married]. And the last I paid any mind to it dating seemed to have kinda died for younger people. Everyone hanging out in friend groups and sometimes hooking up which does seem like fertile ground for polyamory.
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post 1688892643 08-24-2023, 12:33 PM
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post 1688892733 08-24-2023, 12:34 PM
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post 1688893033 08-24-2023, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
I don’t see the difference between c) and d) btw
c: basic requirements are unchanged, but partner is not someone she would prefer

d: basic requirements are not met AND partner is not someone she would prefer


So if her basic requirements were maybe exclusive relationship/non-smokers/same religion in scenario C she would get that, but maybe he is less good looking, or has a lower salary, or is kind of dull vs. in scenario D not only does she end up with a person who is not her first choice that person also doesn't meet her relationship standards, or her go:no go if you will. She gives up on a core relationship desire + some desired attributes in a partner.
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post 1688893253 08-24-2023, 12:49 PM
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weird. Misc keeps telling me that as an ugly 5'3 manlet I just need to be confident bro!
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Idk if those convoluted cliffs and alphabet points are Katya’s or the YouTubers convoluted thinking but there are really just three categories:

1) marry someone you really want

2) marry someone you settle for

3) never marry

Then as to marriage those should be divided into divorce vs life long.

Then the life long marriages divided into happy & good sex life vs unhappy or sexless or cheating.


a] person: 1 relationship: 1

b] person: 1 relationship: 2

c] person: 2 relationship: 1

d] person: 2 relationship: 2

e] person: null relationship: null


Thought of using 1s and 0s but when you get to e that would be super confusing as those women don't get their preferred or less preferred choice.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
weird. Misc keeps telling me that as an ugly 5'3 manlet I just need to be confident bro!
you have an Ivy League degree right? why don't you become an Astronaut? Think about it, being smaller is actually an advantage on the International Space Station
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
Way too low IMO, id go as high as 50% srs. I expect in 2030 and beyond for half of marriage age women to be completely single. Same for men of course.


Also, all the stats about women that do lower their standards and settle with the beta, gotta have in mind the type of dynamic that this situation brings into the relationship. Tl;dr, you dont wanna be the beta guy that a woman "settles" for, that comes with so many gotdamn problems that it is simply not worth it. When beta males realize this, IMO thats when it will result in an over 50% of people being completely single.


I expect also open and normal poly relationships after 2030. Just one guy in a relationship with 2 or more women, openly, everyone knowing whats up.
what does society look like when this is the case?
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
The one change he points at as a potential game changer would be for women to start making offers to men. IOW for women to stop passively waiting for a man to initiate relationships and to instead make relationship offers.

I'm not sure how this would work out. Seems like pushing women to be increasingly masculine on the surface of it.
it would at least be way more efficient. Why have the average man ask out women when only 0.5% will like it? Its a complete waste of time.

Makes more sense to have the extremely picky women self select the men they want. Chad/Tyrone wont even mind it cause they'll happily fork all of them.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
The one change he points at as a potential game changer would be for women to start making offers to men. IOW for women to stop passively waiting for a man to initiate relationships and to instead make relationship offers. I'm not sure how this would work out. Seems like pushing women to be increasingly masculine on the surface of it.
Generally speaking:

No....I don't think it would work out either, not to any noteworthy levels because women can't handle rejection.
We've heard the sisterhood mantra they don't need men and a few other choice phrases they like to parrot back & forth.
The western woman is spoiled and think they are all 10's.

It's hard working blue collar men that have built and civilized the world around them.
Every convenience that makes their lives easier was conceived, designed, built and maintained by men.
The very men that will happily give up their life for the loyal woman of his desires.
Women seemed to have forgotten that default benefit too.
They now can hang out on the hook up sites, monkey branch with the dudes thinking they'll gain value as they party away their youth.
They can't be trusted and 'trust' is how relationships are held together.

I've witnessed (5) decades of feminism do it's thing.
They left their biological lane and have become the very men they actually want.
They've become entitled, woefully unfeminine, undatable and not marriage candidates.
Especially, considering the no-fault divorce option and the court bias.
Women view marriage as an annuity they can cash in on any time they decide they'renot happy.
Men are slowly leaving the rigged game and for good reasons.

If I were a young buck today I'd go withit's far too risky to engage with western women at all.
Clear thinking males would be wise to just do a risk/benefit assessment and then make your judgement call.
As far as I'm concerned, they can now do all their own life's heavy lifting.
Women can start changing their own tires, clean their own gutters and get their sisterhood collective to help them move.

To each their own path and life altering consequences.

(Oh....I've been married to a traditional Filipina for 39 years.)
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
SMV for women steadily declines from 21 until mid twenties, the decline accelerating until 30, at which point it nosedives.

That's just brutal facts.
A reality which is lost on many women until they hit that wall.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
It’s amusing how vastly women overestimate their own value especially in 2023.

Incels think this grossly inflated sense of self-worth is the new lasting paradigm when in reality the check is in the mail for the majority of these dumb bitches.
Yep, it's pretty clear this was a brief self esteem boosting period in the lives of American women that is about 95% over. I'm noticing girls getting a little crazy from less attention nowadays and not getting that same validation they were used to getting.

College girls getting completely whored up to go to day parties nowadays(Bikinis and thongs during the day, happening right now outside me) and not getting any attention, and being drunk and upset.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
That is in there. Says these "strong woman don't need no man" women seem happy enough during their younger years. Once they pass 40? 50? We'll see.
But those women don't belong to the types I listed. My point was that modern dating has changed to the point where a lot of women are trying to circumvent having to appear a man for a relationship by coming up with some new type of relationship where she can flout men being gatekeepers.

I feel like the type he listed were the "I can do bad all by myself" types that are electing to be FA.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
Yep, it's pretty clear this was a brief self esteem boosting period in the lives of American women that is about 95% over. I'm noticing girls getting a little crazy from less attention nowadays and not getting that same validation they were used to getting.

College girls getting completely whored up to go to day parties nowadays(Bikinis and thongs during the day, happening right now outside me) and not getting any attention, and being drunk and upset.
it isnt over. All that changes is they cant get chad/tyrone. if they lower their standards even slightly they'll be just fine
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
The one change he points at as a potential game changer would be for women to start making offers to men. IOW for women to stop passively waiting for a man to initiate relationships and to instead make relationship offers.

I'm not sure how this would work out. Seems like pushing women to be increasingly masculine on the surface of it.



That would be stupid. Women wouldnt pursue relationships with the type of guys that would be good boyfriends/husbands to them, they would pursue the HVM. In fact its already happening now, which is why women complain so much about men being "emotionally unavailable" or not willing to open up, commit, etc. The women that approach men end up in "situationships", because if a woman shows clear interest to a man, the man will fuk her 99% of the time regardless of him wanting an actual relationship or not, you offer sex to a man and he will say yes.


So no, this would only end up in even more women getting pumped and dumped. My #1 advice for a woman wanting a real relationship would be toPICK FROM THE GUYS THAT ARE COURTING YOU. Not the guys slidding trough your DMs, not the hot guy at the gym, not your boss, etc. Pick from the guys that are actually trying to pursue something romantic with you. If the guy is not trying to take you out for an actual dinner and just sends you texts at 2 am and tells you to come over, hes not courting you hes just trying to fuk you.

Somebody should teach women to tell the difference between romantic interest and sexual interest. They seem to put both in the same bag which is why they are so miserable nowadays
Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
what does society look like when this is the case?
Lots of anger, frustration, violence, no productivity, stupid social conflicts (just as the ones we are seeing nowadays) etc. A couple of decades of an absolute trash society then it will correct itself.

By 2060 we gonna be calling women that fuk guys that arent their boyfriend/husband whores/undateable again, mark my words.
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Originally Posted By koreannoodles77⏩
Everyone is living in a fantasy and wants mr/mrs.perfect

Reality doesn't work like that. You find someone that checks most of the boxes you want and compromise with the rest.
Agree

Everybody is looking for someone perfect
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
That would be stupid. Women wouldnt pursue relationships with the type of guys that would be good boyfriends/husbands to them, they would pursue the HVM. In fact its already happening now, which is why women complain so much about men being "emotionally unavailable" or not willing to open up, commit, etc. The women that approach men end up in "situationships", because if a woman shows clear interest to a man, the man will fuk her 99% of the time regardless of him wanting an actual relationship or not, you offer sex to a man and he will say yes.


So no, this would only end up in even more women getting pumped and dumped. My #1 advice for a woman wanting a real relationship would be toPICK FROM THE GUYS THAT ARE COURTING YOU. Not the guys slidding trough your DMs, not the hot guy at the gym, not your boss, etc. Pick from the guys that are actually trying to pursue something romantic with you. If the guy is not trying to take you out for an actual dinner and just sends you texts at 2 am and tells you to come over, hes not courting you hes just trying to fuk you.

Somebody should teach women to tell the difference between romantic interest and sexual interest. They seem to put both in the same bag which is why they are so miserable nowadays



Lots of anger, frustration, violence, no productivity, stupid social conflicts (just as the ones we are seeing nowadays) etc. A couple of decades of an absolute trash society then it will correct itself.

By 2060 we gonna be calling women that fuk guys that arent their boyfriend/husband whores/undateable again, mark my words.
The men they want aren't courting them though. They arent even attracted to those men. They are only attracted to the same ones that have all the options and thus she cant compete unless she fuks him like he wants.

And depressing that my generations future is these decades of trash before it corrects itself only after we're all dead. we got an absolute chit deal as a generation.
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Originally Posted By Cleveland33⏩
so wait, HVM are 10% and the remaining 90% are all betas?

no
It's based on what women see as HVM, 6'4" and makes $500k/year, not what a HVM actually is.

IRL, even the lowest value man has more value than the highest value woman.

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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
The men they want aren't courting them though. They arent even attracted to those men. They are only attracted to the same ones that have all the options and thus she cant compete unless she fuks him like he wants.

And depressing that my generations future is these decades of trash before it corrects itself only after we're all dead. we got an absolute chit deal as a generation.
Yeah, but thats only because women's priorities are screwed up right now. They want to be sexually attracted to the guy on top of absolutely respecting him in terms of finances/status. That would be good for just offspring, women wanting that is just natural, however that formula is meant to improve the human race and not society. A monogamous society doesnt work when women have those priorities.

They should seek commitment, loyalty, respect, love, protection, etc from men, not just money, height, and face, which is whats happening right now. They disregard the virtues that matter for a long term monogamous relationship and put on a pedestal the virtues that matter for a sexual relationship.

Monogamy in a society where women dont need men (due to muh feminism) wont work, since women then go for the men theywant. Every woman wants the same type of men (aka top 10-20%) so this results in a society of sex, situationships, frustration (both from women and men), etc.
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Birth control and social media have destroyed everything

Neither of which are "natural" ironically enough

Being in touch with 1000 men from around the world is not what happened in evolution. Being able to have sex and wash the baby away is not what happened in evolution.

Honestly that destroys any evolutionary analysis. You can't compare old times

Also alpha/ beta in regard to humans doesn't exist. I guess high value and low value are better terms, but even that is subjective..

Who's higher value, dude that sticks with you through thick and thin or the millionaire who's a piece of ****?

There may be an objective measure, but I'm not sure that applies in humanity
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Originally Posted By mryamamoto⏩
I've never repped a female miscer in my 17 years of miscing but I'm close to doing so for posting one of my favorite YT channels.
What a simp
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Originally Posted By mryamamoto⏩
I've never repped a female miscer in my 17 years of miscing but I'm close to doing so for posting one of my favorite YT channels.

Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
What a simp
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
The men they want aren't courting them though. They arent even attracted to those men. They are only attracted to the same ones that have all the options and thus she cant compete unless she fuks him like he wants.

And depressing that my generations future is these decades of trash before it corrects itself only after we're all dead. we got an absolute chit deal as a generation.
Yeah, younger gen does have a chit deal because the priorities and entitlement of women have changed. They want the 3x6's and think that they can land a guy that has those also offer commitment and loyalty. The reality is that those guys don't offer commitment ad loyalty because they see the delusion of these women throwing themselves at the them, and it's a smorgasbord of situatioships at the HVM fingertips.

The HVM isn't starving for sex. Yet these women who throw themselves at HVM thinking they are, and like a stray dog, think if I feed him, he'll follow me forever. That's the delusion of women. They say to themselves when asked "What do you bring to the table?" They answer? "I am the fuk'n table!".

No, they are the side dish of MANY side dishes on the table of a HVM. HVM brings his own table and they are throwing themselves on it, and don't even know it.

Here's the thing BBMG, I've always said, "hold on". Your value is hampered by height, race, and face. As the females market value lowers, yours can at least stay the same until your priced into the market. Yeah, it sucks that you don't get a sloot in their prime, but you may get commitment and a loving relationship.
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Do you think foreign women are a better option? I started to look at things objectively without bias.. and american women have little to offer.

Majority are vaccinated by mRNA, are feminist, materialistic, only have looks/career to offer in a relationship, argumentative, liberal (BLM, trannies, commies)

What's the upside?

I'm a top 10-20% guy and when I think about how much work it took to get to my level I feel like a cuck for selecting an american women because I'm nothing more than a commodity to them, essentially falling into their frame in terms of requirements
Western women priorities have shifted thinking that a guy that has the 3x6's is looking for commitment. Maybe a few, but those HVM can afford the best of the best sloots to lockdown.

Non-western women priorities are still tied to commitment, loyalty, protection, and provision in men. Of those, the ones with great genetic genes and provision will win, but it still levels the playing field somewhat.

This is why when I grew up, before social media, avg dude could slay because the market was small. I was no gigachad, with only 1 or 2 gigachads in my social circle, I took whatever scraps fell off the table, and those scraps were pretty prime, ngl.
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post 1688905713 08-24-2023, 04:28 PM
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I agree, I tell women to stop chasing guys like me and start going for guys like Kormo. You will save the embarrassment and depression of being single by picking the Kormos of the world.

Plus misc always says HVM, who the fuk is an example of a HVM? We talking Brad Pitt's of the world or the ian somerhalder of the world?

cause if I am competing with a guy like this:


Then it is pretty much over before it even started.
post 1688905903 08-24-2023, 04:31 PM
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So only 1% of women get what they want?

All this speaks to is the fact women have their head up their ass and expect to have a male who is out of their league for the vast majority of them. That 53% settling for a "beta male" is probably the average women giving up on Chad and settling where they always should have been. That's of course after riding tons of dick.

Women are a f*cking cancer

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