reading it now,

https://royalsociety.org/-/media/pol...ve-summary.pdf

People rushing to the hospital because they get the sniffles.....

Riiiiiiight, they received an excellent education with ZOOM.......

Slow down and mostly harmless virus in exchange for societal decay


Mkay

No matter what we present to the retard, he won't change his position on the one article that claims that lockdowns and masks worked, they worked so well, that the majority of people on the planet has had the Rona more than once.

Next he'll present an article justifying Australia's response......

My in-laws haven't had it once. Fully vaccinated and boosted... how the hell are they even alive today? Weird.

Except they didn't, keep drinking that Cope aid. You really need to get a hobby or a hooker or something.

Love how people try to re-write history after the fact and call covid mostly harmless... the virus killed more than a million Americans alone.

Except he presented a legit article that says otherwise and you just... well posted this.... crap.

I posted quotes from the articles you shared

I'd be interested in seeing some evidence that mask use led to social decay. I'm also curious as to how social decay is measured.

Okay??? And you contribute it to what? Them confining themselves indoors? And let me guess, they're in the eighties?

Lockdowns


Just look at what it did to education alone

A million died "with" Covid, 80% of those who died with it, were obese with numerous pre-existing conditions, maybe the government should try and encourage society to eat better, and exercise? Nah, instead they'll encourage masks, and for people to get numerous shots....

Early 70s. And they followed all CDC recommendations. Masks, social distancing, washing, vaccinated, and boosted. Again.. how the hell are they still alive Dave?!?!?!

Within the first six months of the lockdowns, the average person gained 30lbs...... Small price to pay though, right? People became even more unhealthy during all of this, and you still justify how it was handled.

How was social decay measured? How much decay was associated with lockdowns after conditioning on other variables? Did the size of that effect vary by region?

Does this mean average BMI is an inverse indicator of social decay?

Not even. Since almost all of the hospitalizations are incidental (unrelated) and nobody's getting publicly tested anymore hospital test results are the only way to measure if the virus is spreading faster or slower. It does not mean the people are hospitalized because of the virus and hasn't for a long time. It's all they have left to measure spread.

Sounds terrible, that's how you want the rest of us to live? Like that? Let me guess, they're still masked up when they go out?

What happeneded to the lockdowns during the Saint Floyd Riots? And the numerous riots/protests that followed?

1: mRNAs are not vaccines in any traditional sense. They work in a very different way.

2: Before 2020 mRNA biotechnology was - at best - several years from use outside clinical trials. The scientists working on it were struggling with the risks of repeated dosing.

3: The two large clinical trials in 2020 from Pfizer and Moderna that led to the approval of the mRNAs did NOT show that they reduced deaths from Covid, or from other causes.

4: mRNAs were not proven to work better or to be safer than - or even as safe as - traditional vaccines. They were not and have never been tested head-to-head against traditional vaccines.

5: The clinical trials showed the mRNAs caused more and more severe side effects than most traditional vaccines, especially flu shots. Real-world experience confirmed the trial findings.

6: The major clinical trials were effectively stopped in early 2021, and as a result we do not have long-term placebo-controlled safety data on the mRNAs.

7: We also do not have long-term controlled data on their effectiveness. This gap matters less, though, since everyone now agrees that - at best - they worked against Covid infection or transmission for a few months in 2021.

8: The evidence health authorities offer for their claims that the shots work against severe disease and death - even after they fail against infection - comes from “observational” studies. Those are hopelessly untrustworthy. The reason is that people are generally not vaccinated if they are on or near their deathbeds - and terminally ill people are obviously at very high risk of death from all causes, including Covid.
In essence, the people who receive vaccinations cannot be compared to those who do not. Health authorities are well aware of this issue, but they ignore it, because it enables them to claim the vaccines work.

9: The mRNAs appear to have zero or negative effectiveness against Omicron infection. Negative effectiveness means they may actually increase the risk of infection. Some studies show that the infection risk RISES with each additional dose.

10: Data from many countries that used mRNAs shows the booster campaigns in early 2022 and late 2022/early 2023 coincided with increases in all-cause deaths. This correlation is particularly striking in the second campaign, because it cannot be attributed to Covid.

It's funny, the handful of times I've gotten sick this year and last, people would ask if I got tested, I'm not gonna get tested every time I get the sniffles.

Are you suggesting riots are a marker of social decay? Did more riots occur, or were riots more frequent, during or post lockdowns than in previous epochs after conditioning on other variables?

Vaccines confer acquired immunity (humoral and cell-mediated). That has long been understood.

"People glom onto information/misinformation based on their priors".

Plus wastewater.

Responded and yet couldn’t address a single point out of 10 presented. Sad!

They were pretty numerous during a time when everyone was supposed to be inside, crime also skyrocketed in 2020, and 2021.....when people were supposed to be inside.

Are there comparisons with pre and post epochs?