Deflect because it's easy.

Accept the fact the 2a no longer is usable as a statement of "protect myself from the government". The 2a means more than guns, stop being ok with your little pew pew toys and stand up for the real purpose of the 2a.

We have a gun problem and we have a diminished 2a problem.

This. Why are acid/van attacks and stabbings so common in the UK, I wonder hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

OP, get out of your feelings (like a woman) and use your brain/logic like a man (dfs). You live in Cali which has the most gun restrictions ever and those haven't done sht, have they?


Will never have children and will never change my mind about guns SRS /thread

The whole legal vs illegal gun carry in this country isn't changing anything obviously so we can put that argument aside. Straight tax, if your kid died from gun violence would you change your position?

This happened yesterday in my city where it was just before 5 PM in downtown and apparently one 15 year old and one 16 year saw each other from across the road and had a shootout with one another. They shot across 4 lanes of traffic at a time when people were getting off work or about to. One died and the other didn't.

Turning 2x their age this Thursday and it feels like such a damn waste. One dead and another going to go away for life, and for what? I got muh gunz. In countries where guns aren't glorified or viewed as a right of being a citizen and solving your problems meant a one on one fight face to face I'd like to think that both wouldn't have had their lives ruined.

Now before y'all freak the fuk out. What about you fathers of the Misc or regular schmo's. What if you had taken your kid or parent out to the movies (basically where this happened, there's an ice cream shop and SB next to where this happened) and a stray bullet caught and killed them? Reported more than 15-20 shots in succession.

Macho BS aside and the ****z who think CCW is a magic shield - the more you go out in public can you say you feel safer today than you did 5-10 years ago?

UK has crazy restrictions on mere knives, but they still have knife attacks. and these knife attacks are all immigrant youth doing them but the UK goes after native law abiding citizens for having the wrong size/shape of knife. It basically mirrors the US gun situation

I have no time to sing.
Get a gun, don't get a gun. Whatever.

I'm on the side that thinks social media is causing more gun violence than the actual ability to get guns, but that's another can of worms

They have social media in Europe and Asia... why no gun violence?

Different cultures, entirely.
The closest to the US would be Europe, but their social media climate is vastly different
The European social media culture is quite a bit more focused on actually connecting with people you know, while American social media culture is primarily focused around promoting yourself and your ideals and with the whole "Freedom of Speech" thing being a huge issue, Americans tend to be much more aggressive online than their European counterparts. America also has a very volatile socioeconomic climate that has caused the general population to compete with their counterparts as opposed to actually connecting with them.

Absolute nonsense. You've clearly never been to Europe.

Absolute nonsense. You've clearly never been to Europe.

LMAO.

If you went and dumped a bazillion guns in europe, they wouldn't decide to start murdering each other.

Do you think the middle east would become a peaceful utopia if they banned suicide bombs?

of course not.

Culture runs way deeper than inanimate objects used for violence.

Are you suggesting a culture of gun violence isn't at all caused by guns?

LMAO.

What needs to happen is that a team needs to go to all the ghettos in the USA and confiscate all guns from dingers/cholos/wiggers, and then do a thorough background check on anyone that seems fishy before selling them a gun.

If it's an incel, he shouldn't be able to get a gun.

No. I'm not a weak minded and emotion male.

Are you suggesting a culture of gun violence isn't at all caused by guns?

LMAO.

Are you suggesting that the allure of being a suicide bomber for the sake of itself is the reason people in the middle east do it?

Literally brainwashed by religion and the promise of 72 virgins through martyrdom.

Pretty awful comparison tbh.


The mental gymnastics it takes to not blame guns for gun violence is hilarious. I'm pro 2a cause I'm pro freedom, but in not anillogical retard.

True, but what I suggested would certainly be a deterrent.

While I agree with Latverian that you blame the criminal, not the gun - if I lost a child to gun violence I don't know that I could pick up a gun again. Not sure I'd support taking that right away from others but I think I'd likely sell mine at that point.

If your kid got ran over by a drunk driver you wouldn't stop driving.

Not sure about y'all, but I look at a gun as a tool. It's nothing more than a hammer or screwdriver.

Same old arguments. The 2a is in our constitution and it's not going away. The 2a says bear arms, not bear guns.

2a people today are slow and dumb. Muh glock, muh ar15. They willingly allow the restrictions on automatics, grenades, bombs, rpgs and everything else without realizing their ar15 doesn't do anything to protect them from the government (source: every person who shot at the cops loses).

The new warfare is drones, sonic, and ai controlled. 2a people don't have a "protect myself from the government" argument anymore, they lost that decades ago when restrictions on other weapons were allowed. Citizens can't compete with the government in today's world.

Would I change my tune if my son died to a gun? No, I blame the person not the weapon, but these gun nuts are dumb.

In countries where guns aren't glorified or viewed as a right of being a citizen