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Thread: Yes or No. Conservatives, are you happy trump got into politics in 2015

post 1693128923 11-09-2023, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted By bignpisst⏩
They are not, they have never been so miserable in their life
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post 1693128983 11-09-2023, 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted By KINGFABIAN⏩
The cultist that didn’t get anything right regarding “stop the steal” is not the sharpest tool in the shed. It is best to take his phrase and point of view and go with the opposite since that has proven to be the formula that does work when listening to this deplorable.
Hey Fabian. I must have missed your thoughts about a Chunk of blm, women's march, and Muslims hating Jews. Oh, and being afraid of calling the attack in Israel a terrorist attack.
post 1693129393 11-09-2023, 11:48 PM
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Absolutely. I paid less taxes, no new wars, refinanced my mortgage under 3%, and gas got down under $2. I remember one time at the lowest gas prices, I paid under $1 a gallon with my $1 off gas rewards.

It was very important to see what could be. Had Hillary been elected we'd be numb to all the higher prices and chit economy after Obama and continuing into Biden.
post 1693129553 11-09-2023, 11:53 PM
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Imagine hating Trump so much you'd rather see see the country and society collapse than see him elected and bring the country back.

That's pure evil.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
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post 1693130023 11-10-2023, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Imagine hating Trump so much you'd rather see see the country and society collapse than see him elected and bring the country back.

That's pure evil.
Good lord bro. This has nothing to do with this thread
post 1693130133 11-10-2023, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
Good lord bro. This has nothing to do with this thread
My reply was to a couple posters in this thread.

OT, without Trump, the country would have been 4 years further down the road to serfdom and far less people would have been aware it was happening.

It's been going on since the 1940s, but it was accelerated in the 70, and went in to hyperdrive in 2012
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
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post 1693130313 11-10-2023, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
My reply was to a couple posters in this thread.

OT, without Trump, the country would have been 4 years further down the road to serfdom and far less people would have been aware it was happening.

It's been going on since the 1940s, but it was accelerated in the 70, and went in to hyperdrive in 2012
So, you would rather have a present day situation over Hillary for 4 and then disantis for 8? Along with a lot less woke
post 1693132793 11-10-2023, 02:35 AM
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Well, I think that Trump has proven himself a talented businessman. As a politician his record of winning is lousy. At this point I'd prefer that he retired from politics, take care of his family, rededicate himself to his business ventures. That doesn't appear to be happening though. Hope if Trump does receive the nod to be the next GOP candidate once again that he and other GOP candidates he endorses do better this go around with voters. Hope this time is different basically.
post 1693136453 11-10-2023, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
Hey Fabian. I must have missed your thoughts about a Chunk of blm, women's march, and Muslims hating Jews. Oh, and being afraid of calling the attack in Israel a terrorist attack.
Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
Good lord bro. This has nothing to do with this thread
Exactly
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post 1693141643 11-10-2023, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Imagine hating Trump so much you'd rather see see the country and society collapse than see him elected and bring the country back.

That's pure evil.
Bring the country back to what?
post 1693150083 11-10-2023, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted By KINGFABIAN⏩
Exactly
Yes.becauae u don't just go to trump threads and screech about trump.
post 1693150513 11-10-2023, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
So, you would rather have a present day situation over Hillary for 4 and then disantis for 8? Along with a lot less woke
I think you are conflating a hypothetical with reality. The thing about society is that it is mostly unpredictable. What we know is that a society, and an economy, are very reactionary. One change could redirect the path completely.

So either you're using a hypothetical as your talking point, or you claim to be some divine all knowing authority. Hillary having gotten elected, would've most definitely changed the projection of the country/government, and would have meant society itself was different than it is.

Edit; keep in mind, if Trump would not have run, another republican would've been on the primary, potentially having been elected as well. You make the assumption that no republican could've beat Hillary, and that may be the case, but we don't know because it didn't happen.
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post 1693153083 11-10-2023, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
This post will age well in a years time when the election is over. I cannot wait into November 2024.
That bot doesn't care. It ranted for years about russians stealing an election and the second a groomer got into the white house it did a complete 180 on whether its' even possible to steal an election.
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post 1693153623 11-10-2023, 12:46 PM
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Here is a hypothetical; Had Trump not been elected, would COVID have been released?
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post 1693153683 11-10-2023, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted By dmike100⏩
Yeah. He pulled back the curtain and helped people see the reality of our media/govt.
Looking at it from abroad, the thing about his supposed comments on Mexicans was a wake up call for me on how both American and international corporate mainstream media cannot be trusted. The complete disconnect between what was largely reported and what he actually said was obvious to see.

Once I saw it, I couldn’t unsee it and it was a paradigm shift. I started to pay more attention to things that were actually said and had actually happened and saw that it was usually in stark contrast to what the likes of CNN, BBC, Sky, Reuters etc would report.
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It was good, it allowed people to speak their minds and remove the illusion of "united", civility, and let people show how they really are.
There is no turning back now unless we get attacked by aliens, lol.
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post 1693154173 11-10-2023, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
It was good, it allowed people to speak their minds and remove the illusion of "united", civility, and let people show how they really are.
There is no turning back now unless we get attacked by aliens, lol.
That’s the key to free speech. No one has to hide, and the bad ideas can be identified and called out. The Obama admin started the mass assault on the internet. The federal government had a lot of trouble controlling the information on the internet, and opened the door for a lot of independent journalists and access to a ton of info. Hence the reason why the Obama admin began passing and pushing for complete control over the internet. He then repealed the law preventing the government from using propaganda on American citizens, which allowed the FBI and agencies to spread disinformation.

When the Obama admin and agencies saw that FB and Twitter were being used for a massive amount of information, they jumped to control it, creating more state media. Few understand the full scale of what happened though. Instead of having one state media outlet and preventing other outlets, they instead PAID and coerced media outlets to fall in line with the central government’s narrative, giving the illusion of choice and freedom of speech.

Once Elon took over twitter and he refused to let it be state sponsored and coerced media, the new narrative became Elon Musk is evil.
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post 1693154203 11-10-2023, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted By uncle
It was good, it allowed people to speak their minds and remove the illusion of "united", civility, and let people show how they really are.
There is no turning back now unless we get attacked by aliens, lol.
Exactly.

You people in the TDS crowd really exposed yourselves Benny. Good thing Potato Joe is going to unite us all again though... when, exactly, is that supposed to start?
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For me, Trump took all the anti establishment anger and energy and pretty much wasted all of it. Things were reaching a boiling point before Trump, he was kind of the release valve but didn't actually do anything
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Yes, he has woken up alot of RIGHT WINGERS and Independents
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
Or would you have rather he not ? I wonder what the political landscape would be like now
Trump saved us from Hillary vs Jeb(!), which whatever else he is or isn't and what problems he has -- for that alone, he saved the country from at least one disaster.
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No because people are more divided now in the US than ever before

I don’t think it’s his fault, I just think he was the catalyst
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
No because people are more divided now in the US than ever before

I don’t think it’s his fault, I just think he was the catalyst
That just means it was going to happen eventually anyway.

Hell, Benny even admitted it...
Originally Posted By uncle
It was good, it allowed people to speak their minds and remove the illusion of "united", civility, and let people show how they really are.
There is no turning back now unless we get attacked by aliens, lol.
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Originally Posted By 129iq⏩
Or would you have rather he not ? I wonder what the political landscape would be like now
For all his flaws, the alternative was much, much worse

We were saved from a horrendous alternative. A hard left legal system in charge of the country. Merrick Garland, remember Obama called him a moderate when he is clearly a hard left cnut would likely have been on the supreme court
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