Going to be renovating my apartment...what is a good drill to buy?

11-12-2023, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted By mchabs⏩

My dad has worked construction almost his entire adult life, and will not buy anything other than DeWalt.

a tradie buying dewalt is like a sloot buying prada or gucci'

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11-12-2023, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted By mchabs⏩

Nah Ryobi sucks ass. I will never buy another Ryobi drill.

My dad has worked construction almost his entire adult life, and will not buy anything other than DeWalt.

I'd say Ryobi is fine as long as he's just using it for wall mounting a TV or building shelves or something, but if he's trying to build an entire backyard shed or any other major remodels thats an entirely different story.

11-12-2023, 11:16 AM

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First consider if you will use this drill much after the renovations. The vast majority of drills will get the job done. After farming for a few years now, what I've discovered is that the equation to work it's not just work done, but the time it takes to complete the work. High quality drills have high quality batteries, so they last longer, and maintain high torque capabilities. In other words, a good drill requires less battery changes to keep the work going.

Assuming one job, find yourself a budget drill that doesn't sacrifice too much quality. Although I love Milwaukee and Makita power tools, it might not be worth buying one just for one job. The worth of these higher quality tools is seen over several jobs, not usually one. They have high durability for long life, but if you don't use it very often, a budget drill can last you 20 years.

12 V is good for most DIY jobs. They are priced well and will do most non-commercial jobs. 18 to 20 V is usually not necessary unless you are doing high-volume and commercial work.

If you want budget, I would recommend Ryobi or Kobalt. Rigid is a brand that you can find on Amazon that's pretty cheap, but only recommend this for basic house work.

Mid grade is Bosch and Dewalt. There have been discussions about dewalt on this forum that talks about the quality. Dewalt quality has been lowered to meet a price target, but it is still a decent mid range tool. It's just no longer in the high end category.

For high end, Milwaukee and Makita are the best.

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11-12-2023, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩

First consider if you will use this drill much after the renovations. The vast majority of drills will get the job done. After farming for a few years now, what I've discovered is that the equation to work it's not just work done, but the time it takes to complete the work. High quality drills have high quality batteries, so they last longer, and maintain high torque capabilities. In other words, a good drill requires less battery changes to keep the work going.

Assuming one job, find yourself a budget drill that doesn't sacrifice too much quality. Although I love Milwaukee and Makita power tools, it might not be worth buying one just for one job. The worth of these higher quality tools is seen over several jobs, not usually one. They have high durability for long life, but if you don't use it very often, a budget drill can last you 20 years.

12 V is good for most DIY jobs. They are priced well and will do most non-commercial jobs. 18 to 20 V is usually not necessary unless you are doing high-volume and commercial work.

If you want budget, I would recommend Ryobi or Kobalt. Rigid is a brand that you can find on Amazon that's pretty cheap, but only recommend this for basic house work.

Mid grade is Bosch and Dewalt. There have been discussions about dewalt on this forum that talks about the quality. Dewalt quality has been lowered to meet a price target, but it is still a decent mid range tool. It's just no longer in the high end category.

For high end, Milwaukee and Makita are the best.

Milwaukee is not high end jfl

Too many fake tradies on this site

Rigid is the only right answer if you want something cheap that will preform and it has a lifetime warranty on the batteries and tools

11-12-2023, 11:30 AM

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you're a hobbyist who may or may not stick with it and won't be using full time.

in that scenario ryobi is the obvious answer. battery system works with hundreds of their tools. the tools are priced reasonable, and they hold up fine, seen even full time folks use em.

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11-12-2023, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted By _zman⏩

18-20v all the brands you mentioned are fine. But keep in mind the entire lineup of tools and what you can use those batteries on. For a home owner you can't really go wrong with Ryobi.

Amazon had a a smokin' deal on Black & Decker with 2 batteries for only $100, so I bought a set and they've been great for small projects for quite a few years now. I even use the impact on the car. But Milwaukee is considered one of the best and would have been better lug nuts, for example. My B&D can't quite break a lug nut loose.

get a ryobi impact wrench and you'll break them loose. since you already got the battery system just need the tool. $50 on direct tools, will be cheaper sales. That's factory reconditioned though, suggest factory blemished if you have the cash.

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11-12-2023, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩

Bruh you need like 10k in tools to do a full renovation by yourself.

Save your money on the drill and hire somebody.

this is definitely not true. the right tool makes the job easier but you can get a lot done with basic tools, and if you go with a reasonably priced system like ryobi you can get a lot of tools for way less than that.

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11-12-2023, 02:17 PM

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just got back from home deport. Makita and Bosch feel very high quality.

I think a 12v feels most comfortable in hands. Trigger on Bosch and Makita was amazing and love the colors

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11-12-2023, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩

just got back from home deport. Makita and Bosch feel very high quality.

I think a 12v feels most comfortable in hands. Trigger on Bosch and Makita was amazing and love the colors

I have most of the Bosch 12v line. I also have 18v too, though.

The 12v screwdriver is one of my favorite tools. It's basically a 12v drill with a hex adaptor. But you can also use hex drill bits with it for lighter work.

https://www.amazon.com/GSR12V-300HXB...08HR2V5PN?th=1

With that being said, this sale going on at Lowes is really good for $150. Dewalt 20v Drill + Impact set:

Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

you can spend 30 bucks more and have an impactor too + be in a better battery ecosystem

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT/5014148639

11-12-2023, 02:54 PM

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Here's a link for Milwaukee M12 12V 5-piece tool set for $210

https://slickdeals.net/f/17045824-5-...h-result-click

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11-12-2023, 02:57 PM

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I'd go with Makita.

Milwaukee is a good brand too but it seems like they are spreading themselves to thin by trying to do everything.

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11-12-2023, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

I have most of the Bosch 12v line. I also have 18v too, though.

The 12v screwdriver is one of my favorite tools. It's basically a 12v drill with a hex adaptor. But you can also use hex drill bits with it for lighter work.

https://www.amazon.com/GSR12V-300HXB...08HR2V5PN?th=1

With that being said, this sale going on at Lowes is really good for $150. Dewalt 20v Drill + Impact set:

how about this one

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bosch-12-Vo...cluded/3185363

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11-12-2023, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩

how about this one

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Bosch-12-Vo...cluded/3185363

I have that exact drill, too. But that is the PS-31 model, it's not brushless. They have an updated Brushless model out now.

https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-GSR12V-...7SRGJPRJ/?th=1

11-12-2023, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted By gwg77⏩

I have that exact drill, too. But that is the PS-31 model, it's not brushless. They have an updated Brushless model out now.

https://www.amazon.com/Bosch-GSR12V-...7SRGJPRJ/?th=1

yea that drill feels amazing to hold

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11-12-2023, 03:34 PM

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Just get a makita

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I've stuck with Makita brushless tools and they've lasted a long time and still going strong. I've built a 2 car garage and reno'd half my house (complete gut/remodel). Not as expensive as Milwaukee, too.

Edit: If you're doing an apartment remodel, you prob don't need an impact.

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11-12-2023, 03:58 PM

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Just FYI, I've built a small barn, large chicken coop, 8ft privacy fence, cabinets, and have done general work with my Dewalt 20V Max. Had it for about 8-10 years now and only had one battery die so far.

I thought it was a pretty good deal on the 20 V battery is pretty good power and life to it

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11-12-2023, 04:57 PM

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this one is tempting

https://www.lowes.com/pd/SKIL/501368...online-_-0-_-0

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Originally Posted By VegasLifter26⏩

this one is tempting

https://www.lowes.com/pd/SKIL/501368...online-_-0-_-0

Go to Home Depot and buy a Ryobi One+HP Hammer Drill and a Ryobi One+HP Impact Gun. That's all you'll need for 90% of work around the house. Make sure it's the One+HP, because their normal stuff kind of sucks.

Whatever you decide, don't buy anything that's 12v. And make sure the batteries you get are at least 4ah.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ON...101B/314109445

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ON...D02B/314109535

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ON...K016/325557950

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Bauer brushless and cordless drill from Harbor Freight. Srs. I've done full renovations with harbor freght tools. You arent a pro contractor and dont need high end brand name equipment for DIY renovations.

11-12-2023, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted By akferd⏩

Bauer brushless and cordless drill from Harbor Freight. Srs. I've done full renovations with harbor freght tools. You arent a pro contractor and dont need high end brand name equipment for DIY renovations.

this is good too. my harbor freight tools for the most part have been just fine. their corded tools are crazy cheap and if you're not a pro corded can be fine (the cord is annoying though, not gonna lie). The Bauer battery system is fine and they're constantly adding new tools to it.

This guy isn't interested in practical advice though, he's nerding out on the coolest tools and is going to end up buying some expensive **** and probably barely use it - after realizing actually doing the work isn't as fun as researching and feeling up the tools.

the best thing for a DIYer/hobbyist starting out is the pick a battery system with plenty of good enough reasonably priced tools. most problems are easy with the right tool, and if you go with something like ryobi then when that problem arises you don't think twice about getting the right tool because it'll be like $40 instead of $200 for the milwaukee version.

if you're pro then you get the milwaukee/dewalt/makita/etc.