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post 1693386573 11-14-2023, 07:55 PM
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I swear, some of you people have this fantasy in your head when it comes to Hitler and the Nazis......
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
You have to admit he was a Chad, though. That's why the people followed him and were willing to sacrifice their lives by the million just to please him.

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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
You have to admit he was a Chad, though. That's why the people followed him and were willing to sacrifice their lives by the million just to please him.

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post 1693386893 11-14-2023, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
I swear, some of you people have this fantasy in your head when it comes to Hitler and the Nazis......
Aren't you a "muh 6 million" guy?
post 1693387043 11-14-2023, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Trillical⏩
What you learned in school about Hitler is false man. The victors wrote the history for world wars. Hitler wanted peace. He did not do it.
It's been 80 years and you're still not allowed to even whisper his name in public.
post 1693387143 11-14-2023, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
It's been 80 years and you're still not allowed to even whisper his name in public.
Say it with me

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post 1693387173 11-14-2023, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
They are Slavic. He thought of them only slightly above Africans and Indians. He didn't believe the Polish were even capable of running their own country, which is one of the reasons he invaded Poland.

Another complete myth was that he hated black people. This was never true. The only group you could accurately say he hated was Jews. He didn't have respect for Africans, but didn't hate them or wish to kill them. That s a total American mythology.
All of the racial stuff was politics of convenance and bro-science. Hitler himself didn't really have that much animus toward Poland or the Polish prior to the war as an Austrian, and was an admirer of Jozef Pusudzki and the Polish defeat of the Soviets in 1920. Had Pulsudski stayed in power and played ball, he probably would have invented some BS about the Aryanhood of Poland. They had no issue kidnapping fully Polish children to raise in Germany as Germans during the war.



Most of the hatred came from Protestant Germany due to historical tensions between the Kingdom of Poland and Prussia. In the 16th and 17th century Poland ruled over the Prussians and forced Prussian Grand Masters to pay homage to Polish kings. Protestant Germans have remained salty since, and have never forgotten this.



Albrecht of Hohenzollern, the Duke of Prussia paid tribute and swore allegiance to King Sigismund I the Old in Kraków's market square on 10 April 1525.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Homage
post 1693387453 11-14-2023, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
Aren't you a "muh 6 million" guy?
You're right, they didn't wipe out 10% of Poland's population...... They're plans for the East were noble, and was all about liberation.
post 1693387643 11-14-2023, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You're right, they didn't wipe out 10% of Poland's population...... They're plans for the East were noble, and was all about liberation.
They probably would have won the war if they actually were. Aside from Poland, the rest of Eastern Europe probably would have sided with the Germans if not for their arrogance toward the people living in those countries.
post 1693388073 11-14-2023, 08:21 PM
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post 1693388083 11-14-2023, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By fr8train⏩
They probably would have won the war if they actually were. Aside from Poland, the rest of Eastern Europe probably would have sided with the Germans if not for their arrogance toward the people living in those countries.
The Ukrainians actually greeted them as liberators, and then the SS showed up......
post 1693390983 11-14-2023, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The Ukrainians actually greeted them as liberators, and then the SS showed up......
And they were blamed for the crimes of the fleeing Red Army. Similar to this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
The Ukrainians actually greeted them as liberators, and then the SS showed up......
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post 1693399453 11-15-2023, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted By achtungpanzer⏩
And they were blamed for the crimes of the fleeing Red Army. Similar to this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
You people are beyond help....
post 1693399593 11-15-2023, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted By fr8train⏩
All of the racial stuff was politics of convenance and bro-science. Hitler himself didn't really have that much animus toward Poland or the Polish prior to the war as an Austrian, and was an admirer of Jozef Pusudzki and the Polish defeat of the Soviets in 1920. Had Pulsudski stayed in power and played ball, he probably would have invented some BS about the Aryanhood of Poland. They had no issue kidnapping fully Polish children to raise in Germany as Germans during the war.



Most of the hatred came from Protestant Germany due to historical tensions between the Kingdom of Poland and Prussia. In the 16th and 17th century Poland ruled over the Prussians and forced Prussian Grand Masters to pay homage to Polish kings. Protestant Germans have remained salty since, and have never forgotten this.



Albrecht of Hohenzollern, the Duke of Prussia paid tribute and swore allegiance to King Sigismund I the Old in Kraków's market square on 10 April 1525.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_Homage
Interesting. Mirin your knowledge. Were you a history major?
post 1693399843 11-15-2023, 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
I've known for years, since taking a course on WW2 in college, that, contrary to popular belief, Hitler never had any intention of conquering Europe. In fact, he wanted to align with the UK and France. He especially hated the idea of going to war with the UK as he viewed Western Europeans as Aryans. But only today did I learn that he offered to pull almost completely out of Poland after it had been conquered, agreeing to only retain 4% of the territory Germany had always considered theirs if the UK and France didn't declare war on Germany.

So yeah, England and France started WW2. Not Germany. And not Hitler.

The whole ****ing thing could have been avoided and Europe would likely still be nearly 100% European today had France and England not declared war on Germany. I believe the two world wars, and that one one particular, destroyed the psyche of Europeans and White people generally.
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post 1693400113 11-15-2023, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted By ConTroLFreaKK⏩
Why would Hitler have not considered eastern europeans as Aryans?
They were under the Mongol and Hun rule for centuries. Mixed blood with east/central asians.
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Soviets and communism were a far bigger scourge on the planet than the nazis ever were, 100% dead fkn srs

I hate that the nazis killed so many innocent people over some retarded theories of racial superiority but I love that they killed so many, although not enough, communist scum, who are responsible for an immeasurable amount of human suffering and the fact that there's still commie fggts all over social media shows that it would have probably been better if the nazis won
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>Violated the treaty of Versailles and invaded numerous lands that Germany was stripped of after WW1

>Invades Poland

Yeah OP, hitler did start WW2 lol
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Originally Posted By Vrykul⏩
Soviets and communism were a far bigger scourge on the planet than the nazis ever were, 100% dead fkn srs

I hate that the nazis killed so many innocent people over some retarded theories of racial superiority but I love that they killed so many, although not enough, communist scum, who are responsible for an immeasurable amount of human suffering and the fact that there's still commie fggts all over social media shows that it would have probably been better if the nazis won
Nearly everyone killed in WW2 was just a normal person drafted into the war. And a ton of civilians.
post 1693400893 11-15-2023, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
>Violated the treaty of Versailles and invaded numerous lands that Germany was stripped of after WW1

>Invades Poland

Yeah OP, hitler did start WW2 lol
Didn’t bother reading the original post?
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Originally Posted By QuitYourCrying⏩
Nearly everyone killed in WW2 was just a normal person drafted into the war. And a ton of civilians.
I'm talking about commie purges (a lot of which weren't even commies I know), not the eastern front

The sad fact of it is that leaders with deranged ideologies are always going to have innocent people die for them while they sit in their high palaces
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Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
Imagine getting steamrolled by slavic untermensch to the point where people in Berlin started killing themselves before the Soviets entered because they knew the vengeance of the Russian people would be insane.

Most of the German effort approaching April and May was to hold back Soviets so the nice American troops would come in. Didn’t work.
Germany was bombing the **** out of the UK whilst pushing Ruskis almost all the way to Stalingrad alongside helping Italian failures.

So they were fighting against a total of what? 3 to 5x their population.

This same vatnik IQ would bang the drum how Russia is doing well against so much NATO money but won't acknowledge the above. Classic malnourised bolshevik kid, raised by the soup kitchens of the USA

As an East European, Hitler didnot rate us highly indeed. But at least tried to safeguard Europe from bolshevik communism.

At least Bulgarian aristocrats knew the dangers of bolshevism and joined the Axis. We should have helped them more.
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Originally Posted By Vrykul⏩
Soviets and communism were a far bigger scourge on the planet than the nazis ever were, 100% dead fkn srs

I hate that the nazis killed so many innocent people over some retarded theories of racial superiority but I love that they killed so many, although not enough, communist scum, who are responsible for an immeasurable amount of human suffering and the fact that there's still commie fggts all over social media shows that it would have probably been better if the nazis won
So all of those Eastern Europeans deserved it?
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OP why did he "annex" Austria and Blitz Belgium, Norway the Netherlands and THEN France?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
You people are beyond help....
I'm not really taking a side, more watching the topic unfold, but what kind of retort is this?

if you don't agree, then outline why, resorting to claiming someone is 'beyond help', because they don't agree with you, without actually qualifying why you disagree at all is utterly useless.
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The idea that Hitler started WW2 when it was England and France who declared war over POLAND was always silly. Why didn't they also declare war on the Soviet Union then?

Adolf Hitler was pretty clear that they were going to take back the German lands stolen from them in WW1, was that really worth starting a war that killed millions of people?

The fact is that the west would have declared war on Germany regardless on if they went into Poland or not. The success that Hitler had in Germany was dangerous to the leadership of the western world who wanted to enrich themselves at the expense of their people. Also the jews would never have accepted a country as big as Germany operating outside of the central banking cartel scheme they have going, with a booming economy conducting trade with dozens of countries worldwide.
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Originally Posted By Clockbro⏩
OP why did he "annex" Austria and Blitz Belgium, Norway the Netherlands and THEN France?
Because when you declare war on someone, you better be ready for war LOL

Do you think that Germany should have waited until England and France were at their border before fighting? Many of the countries you mentioned were taken over without a single bullet fired

LOL
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Originally Posted By Islandboyo⏩
The idea that Hitler started WW2 when it was England and France who declared war over POLAND was always silly. Why didn't they also declare war on the Soviet Union then?

Adolf Hitler was pretty clear that they were going to take back the German lands stolen from them in WW1, was that really worth starting a war that killed millions of people?

The fact is that the west would have declared war on Germany regardless on if they went into Poland or not. The success that Hitler had in Germany was dangerous to the leadership of the western world who wanted to enrich themselves at the expense of their people. Also the jews would never have accepted a country as big as Germany operating outside of the central banking cartel scheme they have going, with a booming economy conducting trade with dozens of countries worldwide.
Poland wasn't German lands, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, weren't German lands, Ukraine wasn't German lands, Belarus wasn't German lands.
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