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post 1694848703 12-14-2023, 08:39 AM
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I think the better question is when will there be a recession?

Major indices have been gaining since back in 2009.

Has there even been a bear market since then?

Party has to end soon...I would think
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post 1694849053 12-14-2023, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Finitude
They keep printing money i guess
The money printing has been over for a while now. M2 money supply has been decreasing lately
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post 1694849313 12-14-2023, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted By FA*******
This rally looks fake and gay to me.

The stock market is pumping because long-term bonds are dropping like a rock. In 6 weeks, the US 10 year Treasury (kind of the proxy for long term debt costs... mortgage rates are based on this for example) went from yielding 5% to yielding 4%. It just fell off a fukking cliff.

Stocks work opposite to bond yields. If you could buy a Treasury bond that guaranteed 20% return a year for the next 30 years, you'd probably put your entire net worth into those and never buy a stock again. And if you had bonds paying 1% return a year for 30 years like during COVID, you'd never buy it because that return sucks dikk. So high-yielding bonds suck cash out of the stock market, and some of that money flows back in when bond yields drop.

Right now, bonds are dropping hard in expectation of a Fed pivot in early 2024, and stocks are repricing accordingly. What I don't get, is why people think the Fed funds rate is going to drop at all with CPI still at 4% (and on-the-ground inflation at like 10%-20%). I think hedge fund brahs are shooting their wad too early here.

Earnings still suck and the macro picture looks grim, so I don't have any hope of actual economic growth occurring. Like with the whole past decade, the stock market is solely watching the Fed.
FAP right on the money as usual

I’m not so sure this rally is necessarily fake - ultimately depends on how inflation and rate cuts to in the future. I think the bond market is pricing in rate cuts next year. If inflation spikes back up and the rate cuts don’t happen, stocks will crash hard. But if the rate cuts do happen, I bet stocks will keep soaring. All IMO

The markets been wrong about inflation/rate hikes before, but one day Itll be right. I’m just going to keep stuffing my paycheck into the market as usual
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post 1694853493 12-14-2023, 10:16 AM
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lol, where else are you going to put your money?
post 1694862623 12-14-2023, 01:00 PM
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BUILD BACK BETTER......markets RECORD HIGHS.....why aren't the MAGAtards happy and CHEERING the markets going UP?
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