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post 1696533553 01-17-2024, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
No the fuk it isn't. I was around 140 at 5'9 graduating high school. I ran track for years, and fukked around with weights for a few months.

In basic, I ended up in the mid 150's. The weight I'm at now was a concentrated effort to gain weight over years.

A sedentary 5'9 man weighing 170lbs is going to be chunky when that shirt comes off.



Here's a sedentary 5'10 170 vs him after gaining muscle and losing fat at 165lbs over several years. Auschwitz wished they could have had this much mass.

Spot on.


5'10 170 is an excellent weight. Wish i could hit 200lbs and stay lean, but floating around 185 looks and feels awesome on me. Pushing my cals beyond what i eat now is not a good feeling so I just avoid doing it. When i was 170 i also felt great with less effort (feeding). Staying at the weight I'm at really requires a lot of food.
post 1696533763 01-17-2024, 02:30 PM
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if you took the average man, say 5'10 170-180 lbs skinnyfat and teleported him to 1920s America he'd probably be a fat freak who couldn't fit into clothes and barely into a car. People were a lot smaller back then. Have you ever seen a Ford Model A or a WWI infantry jacket? Looks like they were made for children.

Now take the average gym-cel (6' 200 lbs, semi-shredded) and he'd basically be in the circus as "world's strongest man" or something if he was teleported to the 1920s.
post 1696535483 01-17-2024, 03:26 PM
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I agree with OP. BMI is perfectly fine for the general population.

Very few people strength train (or do any fitness) at all seriously. Of course for this board overall it’s a silly measurement, but that’s just because most of us here do some form of strength training.

At 6’3” 220 BMI puts me at 27.5, or just above overweight. I agree with this because while my abs are visible standing up, I get some noticeable fat around my midsection when I sit. When I can have visible abs sitting, that’s when I’ll consider myself lean.
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post 1696535713 01-17-2024, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By Kawhilights
I agree with OP. BMI is perfectly fine for the general population.

Very few people strength train (or do any fitness) at all seriously. Of course for this board overall it’s a silly measurement, but that’s just because most of us here do some form of strength training.

At 6’3” 220 BMI puts me at 27.5, or just above overweight. I agree with this because while my abs are visible standing up, I get some noticeable fat around my midsection when I sit. When I can have visible abs sitting, that’s when I’ll consider myself lean.
It's generally good for the population, but again, it completely misses people who are normal weight but "metabolically obese."
post 1696535823 01-17-2024, 03:34 PM
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but they are crap, would much rather drive a Benz



edit: nvm misread title
post 1696538743 01-17-2024, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By proudmanlet
but they are crap, would much rather drive a Benz



edit: nvm misread title
He got that ambition baby
Look in his eyes
This week he mopping floors
Next week it’s the fries so
Stick by his side
post 1696539123 01-17-2024, 05:00 PM
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Even a large portion of people who lift tend to overestimate how much muscle they have/underestimate how fat they are.
post 1696539823 01-17-2024, 05:16 PM
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we freaks muzzlrpress
post 1696549463 01-17-2024, 09:37 PM
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Lol pretty much everyone says it's crap. That's America's obesity epidemic for ya...everyone's fat and they don't even know it
post 1696549883 01-17-2024, 09:51 PM
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should include wrist circoomference
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post 1696549903 01-17-2024, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Ratfish
should include wrist circoomference
lol no chin
post 1696550653 01-17-2024, 10:17 PM
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Sedentary people are a problem anyway. If you don't exercise then you're unhealthy regardless of BMI. So thinking in terms of people who lift is the only thing that makes sense. In which case the BMI ranges for fat/obese make no sense.
post 1696550983 01-17-2024, 10:28 PM
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BMI is crap. It grossly overestimates the number of "overweight" and "obese" men in their 20's when most of them are gymmaxxed.
post 1696552523 01-17-2024, 11:37 PM
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bmi probably accurate for 95% of people...of course every dude that picks up a weight thinks they are in some special group of "bmi doesn't apply to me and all muh muscles"

the healthiest way for people to look is what would be considered slender, skinny or twink by modern standards. like 5'9/140-170lbs for the average guy...easiest on heart/joints, etc.
post 1696554913 01-18-2024, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell
bmi probably accurate for 95% of people...of course every dude that picks up a weight thinks they are in some special group of "bmi doesn't apply to me and all muh muscles"

the healthiest way for people to look is what would be considered slender, skinny or twink by modern standards. like 5'9/140-170lbs for the average guy...easiest on heart/joints, etc.
Yep, it's just lulzy at this point (and I've spent plenty of years being guilty of it myself).
post 1696555083 01-18-2024, 03:02 AM
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OP has a point considering the BMI table was created 50 years ago

nowadays the standard for being overweight has shifted due to muh fat acceptance and muh big is beautiful (sad!!!!)

if you're not athletic or a lifter it's pretty spot on

a 5'10 couchpotato weighing 180 lbs is overweight, deal with it
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post 1696567743 01-18-2024, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted By TokenV
OP has a point considering the BMI table was created 50 years ago

nowadays the standard for being overweight has shifted due to muh fat acceptance and muh big is beautiful (sad!!!!)

if you're not athletic or a lifter it's pretty spot on

a 5'10 couchpotato weighing 180 lbs is overweight, deal with it
id say in most cases, even people that are somewhat athletic/exercise a few times a week at 180 are probably carrying some extra fat and could lose 5-10lbs to approach max health. as the weight goes up from ~175 (average height) the percentage of people that actually carry "healthy" weight (all extra weight adds stress to heart/joints...including roid muscle weight) goes down.
post 1696568463 01-18-2024, 10:10 AM
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The BMI calculator called me fat.

FL > PA
post 1696569143 01-18-2024, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
Yeah, maybe if you're a part of the extremely small percentage of the population that lifts to build muscle. If you're a part of the vast majority of sedentary humans, BMI is spot on.

When did the average Joe start thinking they were an outlier when it comes to BMI? I think the problem is when the average person is chubby, you being slightly less chubby makes you think you aren't still chubby.





For your chubby time

The people discounting BMI are typically a part of the small population who lifts. I dont think the fatties even know what BMI is .
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post 1696569253 01-18-2024, 10:24 AM
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You're ideal weight: it's lower than you think.
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