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Uber driver said he makes "so much money"... so I did math....
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Have you ever been self employed before? A 1099 employee writes off 67 cents per mile on his taxes. It's only based on his mileage. If someone who is an Uber driver has high mileage, it means he's earning a lot of money. You must be a little slow.If you pay very little in taxes with all the writeoffs, IT'S BECAUSE YOU MADE VERY LITTLE MONEY.
Am I literally the only miscer who understands this?
ho lee fuk.
Am I literally the only miscer who understands this?
ho lee fuk.
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Originally Posted By Bigbuster1⏩
Ok so say his car insurance is 200 a monthYou left out car insurance and that you aren’t supposed to use regular car insurance if you’re driving Uber but are supposed to use a much more expensive car insurance since your acting as a common carrier.
730 hours in a month and he used 6
Add an additional $1.64 to his all in expenses. Pretty negligible tbh.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
I've been self employed for over 10 years now LMAO....Have you ever been self employed before? A 1099 employee writes off 67 cents per mile on his taxes. It's only based on his mileage. If someone who is an Uber driver has high mileage, it means he's earning a lot of money. You must be a little slow.
the Uber driver in my OP had $300 of revenue from his trip, he gets to DEDUCT $201 from that revenue, so he has to pay taxes on $99 of income.
So he doesn't pay taxes on the other $201, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT IS THE COST OF HIS 6 HOUR DRIVE....
Miscers think he collects $300 from uber, then the IRS pays him an additional $201 for driving uber.... um, no.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
If he's driving an EV or something simlar, he's only paying like $10 for this drive. The rest is just based on his time.I've been self employed for over 10 years now LMAO....
the Uber driver in my OP had $300 of revenue from his trip, he gets to DEDUCT $201 from that revenue, so he has to pay taxes on $99 of income.
So he doesn't pay taxes on the other $201, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT IS THE COST OF HIS 6 HOUR DRIVE....
Miscers think he collects $300 from uber, then the IRS pays him an additional $201 for driving uber.... um, no.
the Uber driver in my OP had $300 of revenue from his trip, he gets to DEDUCT $201 from that revenue, so he has to pay taxes on $99 of income.
So he doesn't pay taxes on the other $201, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT IS THE COST OF HIS 6 HOUR DRIVE....
Miscers think he collects $300 from uber, then the IRS pays him an additional $201 for driving uber.... um, no.
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Originally Posted By OliverHeldens⏩
wrong:If he's driving an EV or something simlar, he's only paying like $10 for this drive. The rest is just based on his time.
According to Tesla, the total cost of ownership of a 2021 Tesla Model 3 RWD, over five years and 60,000 miles (96,500 km),is about $0.63/mile($37,800 total).
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The drivers are getting fisted.
Uber often makes more than the driver.
Uber often makes more than the driver.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Fuarrrk brutalI'm just sayin, the UBERcel should stop basking in his absurd wealth when the reality is that he's pulling down less than a 16 year old at IN N OUT.
01-26-2024, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
the IRS estimates that your cost of ownership on the average vehicle in the USA is $0.67 per mile - so his expense on the car alone is $0.67x300miles = $201.
So now he's down to a net of $99...
$99 divided by 6 hours of drive time is $16.50 per hour BEFORE TAX.
Wish I could have done the math quickly in the car and given him the bad news, but I didn't do it until this morning.
IN N OUT pays more.
So now he's down to a net of $99...
$99 divided by 6 hours of drive time is $16.50 per hour BEFORE TAX.
Wish I could have done the math quickly in the car and given him the bad news, but I didn't do it until this morning.
IN N OUT pays more.
Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
looks like OP is changing his tuneI've been self employed for over 10 years now LMAO....
the Uber driver in my OP had $300 of revenue from his trip, he gets to DEDUCT $201 from that revenue, so he has to pay taxes on $99 of income.
So he doesn't pay taxes on the other $201, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT IS THE COST OF HIS 6 HOUR DRIVE....
Miscers think he collects $300 from uber, then the IRS pays him an additional $201 for driving uber.... um, no.
the Uber driver in my OP had $300 of revenue from his trip, he gets to DEDUCT $201 from that revenue, so he has to pay taxes on $99 of income.
So he doesn't pay taxes on the other $201, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT IS THE COST OF HIS 6 HOUR DRIVE....
Miscers think he collects $300 from uber, then the IRS pays him an additional $201 for driving uber.... um, no.
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Originally Posted By QUESTlON⏩
No I'm not lol....looks like OP is changing his tune
You still haven't explained baldbrah's analysis that printed extra money out of thin air into the uber driver's pocket.
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Originally Posted By ChunkBuster⏩
according to misc accountants, wear & tear on your car is almost free, AND the IRS is giving away additional free money for each mile you drive uber.The drivers are getting fisted.
Uber often makes more than the driver.
Uber often makes more than the driver.
01-26-2024, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
well then clearly this shows how much of a retard you are if you dont notice the difference in what you said in the beginning vs what you said in the last postNo I'm not lol....
You still haven't explained baldbrah's analysis that printed extra money out of thin air into the uber driver's pocket.
You still haven't explained baldbrah's analysis that printed extra money out of thin air into the uber driver's pocket.
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Most people in positions like that only see revenue, not expenses. For example, if he has an EV he will have to buy a new one once the battery craps out that much sooner. If it's a gas vehicle, he pays for gas every shift and will have additional maintenance, but probably doesn't factor that into his income.
If I was in a position like that I'd have to be making at least $25 an hour NET in order to justify doing it. So example of a six hour shift: one tank of gas at $50, likely food on the road at $15, depreciation of car/maintenance at x amount per mile. Even if you made $200 during that six hours it still would barely be worth it. Meanwhile a lot of people would say "ZOMG $1000 a week working thirty hours sign me up!".
If I was in a position like that I'd have to be making at least $25 an hour NET in order to justify doing it. So example of a six hour shift: one tank of gas at $50, likely food on the road at $15, depreciation of car/maintenance at x amount per mile. Even if you made $200 during that six hours it still would barely be worth it. Meanwhile a lot of people would say "ZOMG $1000 a week working thirty hours sign me up!".
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Originally Posted By QUESTlON⏩
It's literally the same math just written differently.... I'm trying to show you why the IRS doesn't actually send you free money for driving uber, which is what you believe.well then clearly this shows how much of a retard you are if you dont notice the difference in what you said in the beginning vs what you said in the last post
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There is a LOT of bad information in here holy hell. Real business owners and people that drive for a living know just how fukking stupid Uber/Lyft are.
If you're not in a big city driving during peak hours (thus more money) you're basically working for free.
If you're not in a big city driving during peak hours (thus more money) you're basically working for free.
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Originally Posted By chrsschb⏩
Nah brah, today I learned that car ownership cost is roughly $0, and the IRS is somehow sending out money to people for driving Uber.There is a LOT of bad information in here holy hell. Real business owners and people that drive for a living know just how fukking stupid Uber/Lyft are.
If you're not in a big city driving during peak hours (thus more money) you're basically working for free.
If you're not in a big city driving during peak hours (thus more money) you're basically working for free.
I guess my driver yesterday might actually be a miscer.
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Originally Posted By Eatforgains⏩
Hes a 1099, and has to pick either mileage or depreciation/all costs associated with the car, cant use both as a write off.I’m gonna break down the actual math for you since you’re stupid.
I’m gonna use a 2021 Toyota Corolla for the example since it’s a typical Uber car.
3 hour trip at an average highway speed of 65 mph = 195 miles + return trip = 390 miles. No way I believe he did that many miles on backroads.
The corolla gets 38 mph highway so 10.26 gallons of gas.
Let’s say gas is 3.60 a gallon that’s $36.94
He has to do an oil change every 5000 miles. It costs him roughly $60.. his trip is 1/13 of an oil change so $4.61 in oil cost.
Next is depreciation on his vehicle.. here are two similar corollas in terms of trim level and year with a mileage spread of 55,040


I’m gonna use the carfax value not the selling price to figure out that each mile costs roughly 6 cents in depreciation on his car.
This means the trip cost him $23.40 in depreciation.
Average tires last 45,000 miles and will cost him approximately $250 per tire so he spent
$8.66 in tire life (for all 4 tires)
So all in his trip cost him $73.61
For a net profit of $226.39
/6 = $37.73 per hour.
That’s not that bad tbh
Btw you such at math
And to take it a step further he's spending 18 cents a mile in actual cost but the IRS is letting him write it off at a rate of .65 so they are giving him an extra .47 a mile.. for a bonus deduction of $183.30 on his taxes.. lucky him.
I’m gonna use a 2021 Toyota Corolla for the example since it’s a typical Uber car.
3 hour trip at an average highway speed of 65 mph = 195 miles + return trip = 390 miles. No way I believe he did that many miles on backroads.
The corolla gets 38 mph highway so 10.26 gallons of gas.
Let’s say gas is 3.60 a gallon that’s $36.94
He has to do an oil change every 5000 miles. It costs him roughly $60.. his trip is 1/13 of an oil change so $4.61 in oil cost.
Next is depreciation on his vehicle.. here are two similar corollas in terms of trim level and year with a mileage spread of 55,040


I’m gonna use the carfax value not the selling price to figure out that each mile costs roughly 6 cents in depreciation on his car.
This means the trip cost him $23.40 in depreciation.
Average tires last 45,000 miles and will cost him approximately $250 per tire so he spent
$8.66 in tire life (for all 4 tires)
So all in his trip cost him $73.61
For a net profit of $226.39
/6 = $37.73 per hour.
That’s not that bad tbh
Btw you such at math
And to take it a step further he's spending 18 cents a mile in actual cost but the IRS is letting him write it off at a rate of .65 so they are giving him an extra .47 a mile.. for a bonus deduction of $183.30 on his taxes.. lucky him.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
I wasn’t basing that on a tax writing that’s actual costs.Hes a 1099, and has to pick either mileage or depreciation/all costs associated with the car, cant use both as a write off.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
You sure about that?Obviously he didn't find anyone at that destination to drive all the way back home
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Are there Uber/Lyft drivers that make decent $ per hour. Yes. They add grubhub/Doordash in. Work/live in a low congestion metro area with entertainment, and are strategic about what rides they take and keep. I've had 5-6 drivers drop my ride after they accepted it, clearly gaming ride selection.
But is this most drivers? No, not even close. Most are idiots like the one in the OP that suck at math and rationalize the pay because they work when they want on their terms. They like the freedom and their lives are subsidized by government assistance and/or their parents so it doesn't matter anyway.
But is this most drivers? No, not even close. Most are idiots like the one in the OP that suck at math and rationalize the pay because they work when they want on their terms. They like the freedom and their lives are subsidized by government assistance and/or their parents so it doesn't matter anyway.
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Originally Posted By Eatforgains⏩
Brah, your math is chit tier. Even TESLA states their cheap model 3 will end up costing $0.63 per mile after 60k miles.I wasn’t basing that on a tax writing that’s actual costs.
You're wrong. Very incredibly wrong.
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Originally Posted By BlackJack619⏩
900 bucks to officially becoom a fgt is a pretty low price srsDo the math for my biggest pay off.
I once made 900 dollars for jacking off on camera for 20 minutes, that was my biggest pay off.
I once made 900 dollars for jacking off on camera for 20 minutes, that was my biggest pay off.
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Originally Posted By Eatforgains⏩
Well yeah, write offs and actual costs are 2 different thingsI wasn’t basing that on a tax writing that’s actual costs.

PS: Uber is a Wall St business model based a very high supply of immigrants. Ive read that upwards 80% of all uber drivers are immigrants...with a very high turnover.
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
A Tesla battery is 20 grand plus installation.. it’s apples and orangesBrah, your math is chit tier. Even TESLA states their cheap model 3 will end up costing $0.63 per mile after 60k miles.
You're wrong. Very incredibly wrong.
You're wrong. Very incredibly wrong.
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Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
This.Well yeah, write offs and actual costs are 2 different things
PS: Uber is a Wall St business model based a very high supply of immigrants. Ive read that upwards80% of all uber drivers are immigrants...with a very high turnover.

PS: Uber is a Wall St business model based a very high supply of immigrants. Ive read that upwards80% of all uber drivers are immigrants...with a very high turnover.
Also, new immigrants don't pay taxes on privately owned/operated businesses for the first 5 years, assuming they are legal. Also, illegal 1099 immigrants are never going to pay those taxes. Also, low earning American 1099 employees are notorious for being delinquent on taxes.
The number of 1099 tradies that go a decade or more w/o paying taxes is epidemic. When it finally catches up, they use negotiating services to pay a fraction of what they owe. If you have little to no assets and aren't a w2 employee, you are almost impossible to lock down when it comes to taxes if you don't want to pay them.
I personally know 2 tradies that 1099 and went over 10 years not filing a return. Lived with his old lady in section 8 housing in her name. Not married. Between his 1099 income and cash jobs, they were rolling.
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Originally Posted By Eatforgains⏩
A Tesla doesn't need a new battery after 60k miles u retard. Literally the $0.63/mile is the cost of an EV that doesn't even use gas. So $0.67 per mile for a gas vehicle is CONSERVATIVE. The actual average in the USA is closer to $0.73/mile.A Tesla battery is 20 grand plus installation.. it’s apples and oranges
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Originally Posted By DubBrah⏩
Well, according to the misc, you really better be reporting your uber miles to the IRS, because somehow (although it hasn't been explained yet) the IRS is paying drivers an additional $0.67 per mile over and above what uber is paying them.This.
Also, new immigrants don't pay taxes on privately owned/operated businesses for the first 5 years, assuming they are legal. Also, illegal 1099 immigrants are never going to pay those taxes. Also, low earning American 1099 employees are notorious for being delinquent on taxes.
The number of 1099 tradies that go a decade or more w/o paying taxes is epidemic. When it finally catches up, they use negotiating services to pay a fraction of what they owe. If you have little to no assets and aren't a w2 employee, you are almost impossible to lock down when it comes to taxes if you don't want to pay them.
I personally know 2 tradies that 1099 and went over 10 years not filing a return. Lived with his old lady in section 8 housing in her name. Not married. Between his 1099 income and cash jobs, they were rolling.
Also, new immigrants don't pay taxes on privately owned/operated businesses for the first 5 years, assuming they are legal. Also, illegal 1099 immigrants are never going to pay those taxes. Also, low earning American 1099 employees are notorious for being delinquent on taxes.
The number of 1099 tradies that go a decade or more w/o paying taxes is epidemic. When it finally catches up, they use negotiating services to pay a fraction of what they owe. If you have little to no assets and aren't a w2 employee, you are almost impossible to lock down when it comes to taxes if you don't want to pay them.
I personally know 2 tradies that 1099 and went over 10 years not filing a return. Lived with his old lady in section 8 housing in her name. Not married. Between his 1099 income and cash jobs, they were rolling.
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Literally only low IQ tards do uber... people THINk they are making money, but if they actually looked at the REAL math.. cost of doing buisness, etc. They'd all quit. They don't understand the difference between GROSS profit and NET profit. Wear and tear on your equipment should be factored into your pricing, but uber doesn't allow people to do that, so they drive for a pre determined rate. They're wearing out their cars for a few bucks, meanwhile vehicle pricing is off the charts. They also ban any vehicles older than 10 years old which basically ensures you lose money. Only way taxi's are profitable is because they charge out the ass and use FULLY DEPRECIATED old cop cars and lincoln town cars. Dummies driving people around in their 2 year old 55k dollar yukon aren't making chit.
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I feel the need to explain to the Miscers who are confused about the mileage deduction how it would actually break down.
We have our $300 gross revenue which would normally be taxed at 22% federally based on the expected tax bracket the dude would be in.
So he would normally owe $66 dollars in tax on the trip.
Now we plug in the mileage deduction of .67 x 195 miles driven and we get a grand total of $130.65 in write offs. So instead of paying 22% of $300 he’s paying 22% of $169.35
So instead of paying $66 in taxes he’s paying $37.25
Now the real magic comes later. If he can write off enough of his income (which he likely will) he’ll take himself from that 22% tax bracket to the 12% tax bracket which means he’ll only be taxed $20.32 on the $300
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We have our $300 gross revenue which would normally be taxed at 22% federally based on the expected tax bracket the dude would be in.
So he would normally owe $66 dollars in tax on the trip.
Now we plug in the mileage deduction of .67 x 195 miles driven and we get a grand total of $130.65 in write offs. So instead of paying 22% of $300 he’s paying 22% of $169.35
So instead of paying $66 in taxes he’s paying $37.25
Now the real magic comes later. If he can write off enough of his income (which he likely will) he’ll take himself from that 22% tax bracket to the 12% tax bracket which means he’ll only be taxed $20.32 on the $300
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Originally Posted By Jms89⏩
Just read the replies ITT, and you will see that almost nobody knows what you're talking about.people THINk they are making money, but if they actually looked at the REAL math.. cost of doing buisness, etc. They'd all quit. They don't understand the difference between GROSS profit and NET profit.
I feel the need to explain to the Miscers who are confused about the mileage deduction how it would actually break down.
We have our $300 gross revenue which would normally be taxed at 22% federally based on the expected tax bracket the dude would be in.
So he would normally owe $66 dollars in tax on the trip.
Now we plug in the mileage deduction of .67 x 390 miles driven and we get a grand total of $261.30 in write offs. So instead of paying 22% of $300 he’s paying 22% of $38.70
So instead of paying $66 in taxes he’s paying $8.50
Now the real magic comes later. If he can write off enough of his income (which he likely will) he’ll take himself from that 22% tax bracket to the 12% tax bracket which means he’ll only be taxed $4.64 on the $300
Any questions?
Yes, where do you buy a car that costs literally $0/mile to drive?We have our $300 gross revenue which would normally be taxed at 22% federally based on the expected tax bracket the dude would be in.
So he would normally owe $66 dollars in tax on the trip.
Now we plug in the mileage deduction of .67 x 390 miles driven and we get a grand total of $261.30 in write offs. So instead of paying 22% of $300 he’s paying 22% of $38.70
So instead of paying $66 in taxes he’s paying $8.50
Now the real magic comes later. If he can write off enough of his income (which he likely will) he’ll take himself from that 22% tax bracket to the 12% tax bracket which means he’ll only be taxed $4.64 on the $300
Any questions?
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