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post 1698764093 03-05-2024, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Want me to link that thread again where you made a complete fool of yourself?
No, how about you link or quote the direct post where I stated that. Should be easy.
post 1698764113 03-05-2024, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted By Sevenlionz
He’s a bit of goofball but pretty harmless, don’t think he’s a fan of me LOL

I used to spend all my time on lots of video game forums, knew legit dozens of people exactly like him. Believing themselves to be intellectually superior without any substantial life evidence/results to back it up just high on their own farts
Accurate
post 1698764183 03-05-2024, 09:24 AM
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[QUOTE=rollerball;1698763953]you’re being a retard here.

first you stated one needs theoretical and academic training to make music. not true.

now you’re acting like I said anyone who makes musical sounds is a musician, which is not what I said.

sukihana is a musician, she makes songs with rhythms and baselines and beats and her career is based on that.[/QUOTE

I guess the difference between us is that I wouldn't consider someone like sexy redd a musician, and you would.

I'm not saying you need formal training to be a musician, I'm saying there's skills that need to be learned, and a basis of musical knowledge that would qualify you as a musician.

Rappers do not have any of it. Some do, but you can make it as a rapper today with 0 musical knowledge or talent. You simply can't do that with any other musical medium, generally speaking.
post 1698764263 03-05-2024, 09:26 AM
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post 1698764293 03-05-2024, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted By monster0ultra
It's just fun to roast him because his overreactions are always entertaining.

He does his best so he's not a true loser. The only thing we can control is our effort. The results are up to luck/fate/jesus/allah/vishnu.

Who I do feel contempt for example would be Legz422. That there is a true loser who always posts life advice like they're an expert on everything.
Voidgay isn't gay, is he?
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post 1698764323 03-05-2024, 09:27 AM
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post 1698764383 03-05-2024, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
usually you're not this dense. the question isn't whether she's a good musician.
Right, I just wouldn't consider her one at all. Because I don't think she knows anything about music, or has any actual musical talent.


Shes famous because she's a whore who rapped over a beat someone else made. Her "musician" status was simply showing up and twerking while rapping poorly.

I get what you're saying but I just don't agree. I'm not going to ever call someone with 0 musical ability a musician even if they are famous for rapping.
post 1698764423 03-05-2024, 09:28 AM
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post 1698764593 03-05-2024, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
It is easy lol.
...Okay
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lmao dude you said singers aren’t musicians.
I never stated this and what you quoted doesn't contain anything close to me stating that. This isn't even reach it's just wrong lol.

Come on dude
post 1698764713 03-05-2024, 09:34 AM
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post 1698764923 03-05-2024, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Lol I never said she was talented.
OK but I mean at what point do we draw the line? Either everyone who makes music is a musician, or we reserve the term for people who really are musicians.

You're calling sexy redd a musician, but she makes bad songs, doesn't write the music, doesn't sing, doesn't have any classical training in singing or instruments... Wtf about her by definition makes her a musician?


The Oxford dictionary definition is "a person who plays an instrument, especially as a profession, or is musically talented"

Which one of those is sexy red? Musically talented? Lmao come on dude.

We live in an age where everyone gets to be anything they want. The musical landscape has shifted wildly and people can make it in the industry with little to no actual musical prowess.

If people like sexy redd are musicians, just throw the term out, it has no meaning anymore.
post 1698764993 03-05-2024, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Are you really this dumb, Voidgaze. You said musicians "by definition" must play an instrument and you do not consider the voice an instrument.

Therefore you do not consider singers musicians. I feel sorry for you at this point man, you are not in any type of intellectual position to continue saying anything here.
This is pointless. You're just arguing for the sake of it now.
post 1698765073 03-05-2024, 09:40 AM
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post 1698765113 03-05-2024, 09:41 AM
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post 1698765183 03-05-2024, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
lol dude just stop already. again I never said everyone who makes music is necessarily a musician. it's okay to be wrong sometime freeburn, stop doubling down.
Yeah but I'm right tho, and the Oxford dictionary definition agrees more with my logic.
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post 1698765273 03-05-2024, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
lol sure buddy, everyone thinks you're right here. lmao.

let's go back to talking about qd-oleds where you actually know what you're talking about.
I'm not the one who thinks sexy redd is a talented musician
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post 1698765593 03-05-2024, 09:50 AM
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I loved when he whined about how hard it is to work at Starbucks, and that they deserve to make a living wage....
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Originally Posted By rollerball
Nor am I lol, why do you keep bringing her up though. I think you like her.
I think she's the prime example tho, someone who made at in the music industry, but isn't a musician because she had no musical talent.

It's like you want to define her as a musician because that's her career, but really she just isn't because she has no musical talent or training at all. She's more akin to an Instagram thot than a musician.

If she was making thirst trap pussy rap, but could play the instruments and read the sheet music and had musical talent, I'd call her a musician even tho she chose to be a trap whore rapper.

Mos Def is a rapper id call a musician, because he can play instruments and actually make music.
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post 1698766133 03-05-2024, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted By rollerball
I get that your frustration is those that claim the title of “musician” while have very low actual musical skill by your definition.

And that what is called “music” these days is very loose fitting in your definition. But “sexy” redd makes her living making music and she is, even if a terrible one, a musician.

Talib was way better than mos Def but they’re still both musicians lol.

The human voice is an instrument. Just not everyone knows how to play it well.
Well yeah it has to be true since anyone who makes music is a musician
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